| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
hydrohead
Star Player
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
Posts: 4108
Location: Space City
|
 Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | I think Phoenix would still be interested in Lonzo Ball
What about Lonzo+Deng for the #16 pick? |
why are we trading former #2 pick for garbage? if its not to trade KL, keep all the guys. |
I think hydrohead scenario is trade Ball for #16 then attach #16 and #25 with BI/Kuzma to Spurs for KL |
You got it IG.
And if they don't, they have worked out Walker and Smith. IF they are available and can't make the move for KL, then we have a guard to replace Lonzo.
We all would have freaked replacing DLo (a #2 pick) for Kuz last year. How did that turn out?
Last edited by hydrohead on Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:57 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46638
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:57 am Post subject: |
|
|
| hydrohead wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | I think Phoenix would still be interested in Lonzo Ball
What about Lonzo+Deng for the #16 pick? |
why are we trading former #2 pick for garbage? if its not to trade KL, keep all the guys. |
I think hydrohead scenario is trade Ball for #16 then attach #16 and #25 with BI/Kuzma to Spurs for KL |
You got it IG.
And if they don't, they have worked out Walker and Smith. IF they are available and can't make the move for KL, then we have a guard to replace Lonzo.
We all would have freaked replacing DLo (a #2 pick) for Kuz last year. How did that turn out? |
Yeah we either move the #16 or we keep it to draft a solid guard or attach it to land Leonard on draft night |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jesusdelonla
Franchise Player
Joined: 24 Jan 2018
Posts: 15430
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:58 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | I think Phoenix would still be interested in Lonzo Ball
What about Lonzo+Deng for the #16 pick? |
why are we trading former #2 pick for garbage? if its not to trade KL, keep all the guys. |
I think hydrohead scenario is trade Ball for #16 then attach #16 and #25 with BI/Kuzma to Spurs for KL |
You got it IG.
And if they don't, they have worked out Walker and Smith. IF they are available and can't make the move for KL, then we have a guard to replace Lonzo.
We all would have freaked replacing DLo (a #2 pick) for Kuz last year. How did that turn out? |
Yeah we either move the #16 or we keep it to draft a solid guard or attach it to land Leonard on draft night |
NO |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46638
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | I think Phoenix would still be interested in Lonzo Ball
What about Lonzo+Deng for the #16 pick? |
why are we trading former #2 pick for garbage? if its not to trade KL, keep all the guys. |
I think hydrohead scenario is trade Ball for #16 then attach #16 and #25 with BI/Kuzma to Spurs for KL |
You got it IG.
And if they don't, they have worked out Walker and Smith. IF they are available and can't make the move for KL, then we have a guard to replace Lonzo.
We all would have freaked replacing DLo (a #2 pick) for Kuz last year. How did that turn out? |
Yeah we either move the #16 or we keep it to draft a solid guard or attach it to land Leonard on draft night |
NO |
How would you do it? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hydrohead
Star Player
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
Posts: 4108
Location: Space City
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | I think Phoenix would still be interested in Lonzo Ball
What about Lonzo+Deng for the #16 pick? |
why are we trading former #2 pick for garbage? if its not to trade KL, keep all the guys. |
I think hydrohead scenario is trade Ball for #16 then attach #16 and #25 with BI/Kuzma to Spurs for KL |
You got it IG.
And if they don't, they have worked out Walker and Smith. IF they are available and can't make the move for KL, then we have a guard to replace Lonzo.
We all would have freaked replacing DLo (a #2 pick) for Kuz last year. How did that turn out? |
Yeah we either move the #16 or we keep it to draft a solid guard or attach it to land Leonard on draft night |
Oh yeah there is the cap flexibility as well, running out $25 mil off the books. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
AFireInside619
Franchise Player
Joined: 11 Dec 2015
Posts: 11447
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:15 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Jesusdelonla wrote: | its funny how Tatum is untouchable for boston to get KL but we are happily including all our young guys.
trade deng somewhere else and Spurs don't have any package better then BI/25th pick |
And you know this how? It's probably accurate, but everything is just speculation right now. The Celtics are pretty tight lipped. We still have no clue what they offered for Kawhi earlier in the season. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baron Von Humongous
Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 32979
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:15 am Post subject: |
|
|
| hydrohead wrote: | I think Phoenix would still be interested in Lonzo Ball
What about Lonzo+Deng for the #16 pick? |
I'd prefer they do that with Ingram who is a lesser player than Ball. But to each their own.
_________________
Under New Management |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tox
Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Nov 2015
Posts: 17876
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
| GoldenThroat wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | | lakid wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | AllorNothing wrote: | | I just hope we can keep Ingram. |
I’m with you. I’d ship Ball and Kuz anytime before Ingram |
Agree with this, INgram is a potential star, I don't think either Ball or Kuzma are on his level. |
https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/1007829851691089920 |
It really seems you have an agenda when you retweet Russillo and Gottlieb as credible sources. We might as well be retweeting Skip Bayless or Steven A. Smith. |
Yes, it's me who has an agenda (to communicate that the Lakers really love Kuzma?) and it's definitely not you having a "ride or die no matter what" agenda for Brandon Ingram that's getting in the way here.
Again, here's the Kevin Ding article from yesterday if that more thoroughly communicates the point. I don't need Gottlieb or Russillo to know that the Lakers love Kuz and value him higher than you guys do. They both said something that I have heard as well, so I shared it.
https://www.nba.com/lakers/news/the-point/180615-kuzmas-journey-for-significance-only-beginning |
Ding is such a bad writer, man. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mookielala
Star Player
Joined: 29 Jul 2012
Posts: 3026
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
| If Lonzo is a constant in trades talks (which could easily be total BS), I wouldn't think it would be talks with SA. It's hard to imagine the Spurs going after a player who brings so much outside hype and drama (via Lavar, etc.). I could be wrong, but that doesn't match my impression of what Popovich or the team wants from their players. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jesusdelonla
Franchise Player
Joined: 24 Jan 2018
Posts: 15430
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
| AFireInside619 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | its funny how Tatum is untouchable for boston to get KL but we are happily including all our young guys.
trade deng somewhere else and Spurs don't have any package better then BI/25th pick |
And you know this how? It's probably accurate, but everything is just speculation right now. The Celtics are pretty tight lipped. We still have no clue what they offered for Kawhi earlier in the season. |
i heard Bobby Marks say on ESPN |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jesusdelonla
Franchise Player
Joined: 24 Jan 2018
Posts: 15430
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | I think Phoenix would still be interested in Lonzo Ball
What about Lonzo+Deng for the #16 pick? |
I'd prefer they do that with Ingram who is a lesser player than Ball. But to each their own. |
ya |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
YSong
Star Player
Joined: 16 Sep 2016
Posts: 2329
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:35 am Post subject: |
|
|
| mookielala wrote: | | If Lonzo is a constant in trades talks (which could easily be total BS), I wouldn't think it would be talks with SA. It's hard to imagine the Spurs going after a player who brings so much outside hype and drama (via Lavar, etc.). I could be wrong, but that doesn't match my impression of what Popovich or the team wants from their players. |
I thought the article said it was Lonzo in a trade to Cavs |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mookielala
Star Player
Joined: 29 Jul 2012
Posts: 3026
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:39 am Post subject: |
|
|
| YSong wrote: | | mookielala wrote: | | If Lonzo is a constant in trades talks (which could easily be total BS), I wouldn't think it would be talks with SA. It's hard to imagine the Spurs going after a player who brings so much outside hype and drama (via Lavar, etc.). I could be wrong, but that doesn't match my impression of what Popovich or the team wants from their players. |
I thought the article said it was Lonzo in a trade to Cavs |
Oh, I didn't see the article. Thanks. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
leor_77
Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Mar 2012
Posts: 21920
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:58 am Post subject: |
|
|
| GoldenThroat wrote: | | leor_77 wrote: | | My only issue is the lack of value...Magic needs to convince Lebron to deal with him for a few months, up Lonzo's trade value, and then ship him out then. |
Deal with him? How many rookies did LeBron go out of his way to wish a Happy Birthday this season? How many rookies was LeBron pulling aside to advise? How many rookies did he go out of his way to watch their Summer League game?
LeBron doesn't need any convincing about Lonzo. If he's who'd have to go out for Kawhi or Lillard, so be it, but Lonzo is a feature to LeBron, not a bug. |
Look, I get it. It would be hard. That's why we have Magic - He needs to prove his worth, talk to Lebron, and try to convince him. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
epak
Retired Number
Joined: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 34147
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
| leor_77 wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: | | leor_77 wrote: | | My only issue is the lack of value...Magic needs to convince Lebron to deal with him for a few months, up Lonzo's trade value, and then ship him out then. |
Deal with him? How many rookies did LeBron go out of his way to wish a Happy Birthday this season? How many rookies was LeBron pulling aside to advise? How many rookies did he go out of his way to watch their Summer League game?
LeBron doesn't need any convincing about Lonzo. If he's who'd have to go out for Kawhi or Lillard, so be it, but Lonzo is a feature to LeBron, not a bug. |
Look, I get it. It would be hard. That's why we have Magic - He needs to prove his worth, talk to Lebron, and try to convince him. |
Magic has to convince LeBron that Lonzo is a bug? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hydrohead
Star Player
Joined: 14 Jul 2003
Posts: 4108
Location: Space City
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | I think Phoenix would still be interested in Lonzo Ball
What about Lonzo+Deng for the #16 pick? |
I'd prefer they do that with Ingram who is a lesser player than Ball. But to each their own. |
ya |
'
ya? OK. 2/3 of LG would disagree and send Lonzo packing over Ingram.
And Ingram has better market value across the league than Lonzo. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
AFireInside619
Franchise Player
Joined: 11 Dec 2015
Posts: 11447
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | its funny how Tatum is untouchable for boston to get KL but we are happily including all our young guys.
trade deng somewhere else and Spurs don't have any package better then BI/25th pick |
And you know this how? It's probably accurate, but everything is just speculation right now. The Celtics are pretty tight lipped. We still have no clue what they offered for Kawhi earlier in the season. |
i heard Bobby Marks say on ESPN |
Sorry, I thought you were just making a general assumption based on LG. They would be right to make Tatum untouchable. Currently the best player in the draft at the moment, in my opinion. Ball, Kuzma, Mitchell, and some others have a chance to change that though. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LakerSanity
Moderator
Joined: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 33474
Location: Long Beach, California
|
| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'm shutting down this thread. If you read his entire quote, he is actually speculating. All of this other stuff is being discussed elsewhere.
_________________
LakersGround's Terms of Service
Twitter: @DeleteThisPost |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
