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dcarter4kobe
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Lopez/Frye/T.Bryant
Randle/Kuzma
LeBron/Ingram/47th pick
PG13/Hart
Ball/Vet PG/25th pick
Is enough to take out GS now and still have core future foundation in Randle/Kuzma/Ingram/Hart/Ball/T.Bryant/Draft picks
J.Bell/McGee
Green/Looney
KD/Iggy
Klay/Livingston
Curry/Cook
Our bench/depth is what would put us over the top IMO.
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Arbitrary
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I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
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LakerLogic
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| Arbitrary wrote: | I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
No chance. |
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quartzcharm
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You have to cash in our assets for Kawhi in my opinion. I don't agree with how he's handled thing with San Antonio...but we're talking about a top 5 player in the league (when healthy).
Our assets may never develop to that level. And I think that if we land him, we have a strong chance of adding Lebron and PG. |
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mookielala
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| I love Kawhi, but that injury is very fishy. It's more like I love memories of Kawhi. |
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Arbitrary
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | Arbitrary wrote: | I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
No chance. |
On top of other almost impossible roster scenarios, even a paycut ( ) from James and George, say $5m per year, won't make it? |
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JUST-MING
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | Arbitrary wrote: | I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
No chance. |
Only shot at Kawhi next summer would be to not sign Lebron or Paul. Julius also becomes a variable if he signs for more than $14 million. This entire thing hinges on Luol Deng for cap space, which is pure fantasy. |
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lakersfan8
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| Arbitrary wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | | Arbitrary wrote: | I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
No chance. |
On top of other almost impossible roster scenarios, even a paycut () from James and George, say $5m per year, won't make it? |
My rough estimate is they need to take 10m pay cut each and Randle take that qualifying offer. Then we sign Kwahi and resign Randle using his bird right. That might work I suppose? |
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lakersfan8
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | Lopez/Frye/T.Bryant
Randle/Kuzma
LeBron/Ingram/47th pick
PG13/Hart
Ball/Vet PG/25th pick
Is enough to take out GS now and still have core future foundation in Randle/Kuzma/Ingram/Hart/Ball/T.Bryant/Draft picks
J.Bell/McGee
Green/Looney
KD/Iggy
Klay/Livingston
Curry/Cook
Our bench/depth is what would put us over the top IMO. |
I know we need a rim protector at C but I think you are asking for locker room trouble if you resign Randle and put him on the bench.
My ideal lineup is
Randle/Lopez/Zubac
LeBron/Kuzma/Bryant
Ingram/Belinelli
PG13/Hart
Ball/Caruso/25th pick
Also, I do not think this lineup can compete with the Warriors in year 1. |
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lakersfever714
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Roster A: if we're getting Lebron and PG13 while retaining Ball and Ingram, that must mean JR is out. I'd prefer to keep JR and let go of Lonzo. Lebron will be the primary ball handler. Don't need Lonzo running our offense. Kuzma would run offense when Lebron rests. We would have depth at front and back court.
Lonzo is an awful fit alongside Lebron because he can't shoot and we all saw first hand in Cleveland what happened when role players can't shoot. Lebron/PG13/Ingram lineup is sexy as hell. Lots of length on defense while with very decent long range shooting with Ingram at 39% and PG13 at 40% last season.
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lakurluv
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In all honesty, if we're able to land the two big FAs in George and James and we can keep the bulk of our young roster. I don't know how we can't compete with that team in the West, especially against GSW.
The only thing we truly lack on a team like that is outside shooting. Kuzma would provide some, but we need 2/3 other players who are snipers and can come in off the bench and build on a lead.
Shooters will be what this team needs as it is obvious we will be playing position-less basketball. We also maybe able to keep IT as he won't get whatever he's looking for at this stage. I'm thinking a one year deal with him and he's that "Scorer" off the bench who can light it up, but still not a 3-point specialist.
Reddick and Curry are a couple names that come to mind, but Reddick maybe untouchable in Philly as he provides that Vet Leadership. Curry coming off an injury has proven he can play in this league and maybe a great pickup low on everyone's radar.
Overall I don't think we simply pass on Randle if we don't have to. His defense has greatly improved and he's on his way to becoming a solid two-way player. |
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Texas_Pete
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| adkindo wrote: | | MJST wrote: | How about Roster C
Lonzo Ball
Paul George
Brandon Ingram
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Bench: Josh Hart, Kyle Kuzma, Thomas Bryant, Ivica Zubac, Channing Frye |
zero rim protection in that lineup |
Disagree. You can choke a teams offense just as well from the perimeter. I recall the 96 Bulls not having an elite rim protector, yet they were able to switch everything defensively. Bron, Ju, Zo, BI, and PG13 can have a similar defensive impact IMHO. |
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kawhileonard
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| Texas_Pete wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | MJST wrote: | How about Roster C
Lonzo Ball
Paul George
Brandon Ingram
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Bench: Josh Hart, Kyle Kuzma, Thomas Bryant, Ivica Zubac, Channing Frye |
zero rim protection in that lineup |
Disagree. You can choke a teams offense just as well from the perimeter. I recall the 96 Bulls not having an elite rim protector, yet they were able to switch everything defensively. Bron, Ju, Zo, BI, and PG13 can have a similar defensive impact IMHO. |
Bulls had MJ, Harper, Pippen and Rodman... |
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Texas_Pete
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| kawhileonard wrote: | | Texas_Pete wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | MJST wrote: | How about Roster C
Lonzo Ball
Paul George
Brandon Ingram
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Bench: Josh Hart, Kyle Kuzma, Thomas Bryant, Ivica Zubac, Channing Frye |
zero rim protection in that lineup |
Disagree. You can choke a teams offense just as well from the perimeter. I recall the 96 Bulls not having an elite rim protector, yet they were able to switch everything defensively. Bron, Ju, Zo, BI, and PG13 can have a similar defensive impact IMHO. |
Bulls had MJ, Harper, Pippen and Rodman... |
I didn't say they'd be better than the 96 Bulls. I said similar impact which is true. The "roster c" has all 5 players that are good defenders with the switchability needed to defend in today's NBA. |
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cthroatgtr
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If healthy, Kawhi is an MVP candidate. Lebron is either #1 or 2 in the league. PG13 is a great compliment being a perimeter shooter and another guy that plays both ways. Can all three play together is the million dollar question. They really are three SF but you find a way to make it work. You aren't going to beat GSW by playing their way. You can however beat them up as Cleveland did a few years back. Iggy is getting old and breaking down.
I think Ingram has great potential but perhaps you keep Lonzo and trade Ingram if you get these guys. Perhaps a better lineup is Lebron, Kawhi & CP3. Then you just need to fill in the holes. Smaller window but would match up with GSW better than you think.
Shaq/Kobe Lakers beat Sacramento by beating them up. It wasn't a coincidence they couldn't hit free throws in game 7. Not much different was Steph missing open shots in game 7 against Cleveland. Shooters you have to take their legs and Lebron/Kawhi can do just that. |
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Johnny Cage
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Four Decade Bandwagon
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Keep the young assets.
I prefer not risking the future on a player that is consistently having qualifiers like “when healthy” and “if he returns to his MVP candidate level” to any discussion to trade for him.
I also am one of those “overvalue” the young core. I think Ingram can reach similar 2 way status with a couple years of development. And the depth and unique skills that players like Randle,Ball, Kuzma and Hart can provide as a collective outweigh Leonard even if healthy.
Maybe I’m missing the point of the 2 max plan that has been clamored over for a year now. Isn’t the plan to have the cap to keep “adding” to the team’s roster and chemistry? |
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GOODRICH25
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| Arbitrary wrote: | I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
if you want a scenario that works on paper but probably wont be executed in reality, then this:
step 1: max out James and let all our free agents walk, except Randle (12M cap hold) and IT (11M cap hold). it leaves us with James, Deng, Randle, IT, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Ennis, Hart, Zubac, Bryant, 25th.
step 2: find a taker for Deng for 1 1st rounder and Zubac/Bryant, but dont do the trade yet. call PG and tell him to opt in and we will max him out next summer.
step 3: call SA, ask which player they want at 25th, hang up.
step 4: draft their player, call them again, offer IT (wed do a sign and trade once they accept our offer, either to them or to a 3rd team which would send a different player to SA) + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis (if they want) + 25th + 2019/2021 1st (depending on which one you used for Deng). if they play hard ball, wait for other teams to reject them and come back at us.
step 5: when they bite, sign Randle, sign&trade IT + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis + 25th + 2019/2021 1st in the Kawhi deal.
step 6: now call OKC, do a Deng + 1st + Bryant/Zubac to 3rd team, who would send a player OKC like to them for an opted in PG
step 7: use the room exception on Brook/Noel/Davis, add veteran minimum players at backup point guard (Mario Chalmers/Devin Harris/Raymond Felton/Jarrett Jack/Aaron Brooks), another shooter (Vince Carter/Jason Terry - him and James on the same team lol), and another big (Channing Frye/Marreese Speights)
step 8: profit? we would look at a roster of Lonzo/vet Kawhi/Hart/Carter George/Ingram James/Kuzma Randle/room ex./vet
how realistic such scenario is i think we all realize 
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Joe Pesci
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| GOODRICH25 wrote: | | Arbitrary wrote: | I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
if you want a scenario that works on paper but probably wont be executed in reality, then this:
step 1: max out James and let all our free agents walk, except Randle (12M cap hold) and IT (11M cap hold). it leaves us with James, Deng, Randle, IT, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Ennis, Hart, Zubac, Bryant, 25th.
step 2: find a taker for Deng for 1 1st rounder and Zubac/Bryant, but dont do the trade yet. call PG and tell him to opt in and we will max him out next summer.
step 3: call SA, ask which player they want at 25th, hang up.
step 4: draft their player, call them again, offer IT (wed do a sign and trade once they accept our offer, either to them or to a 3rd team which would send a different player to SA) + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis (if they want) + 25th + 2019/2021 1st (depending on which one you used for Deng). if they play hard ball, wait for other teams to reject them and come back at us.
step 5: when they bite, sign Randle, sign&trade IT + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis + 25th + 2019/2021 1st in the Kawhi deal.
step 6: now call OKC, do a Deng + 1st + Bryant/Zubac to 3rd team, who would send a player OKC like to them for an opted in PG
step 7: use the room exception on Brook/Noel/Davis, add veteran minimum players at backup point guard (Mario Chalmers/Devin Harris/Raymond Felton/Jarrett Jack/Aaron Brooks), another shooter (Vince Carter/Jason Terry - him and James on the same team lol), and another big (Channing Frye/Marreese Speights)
step 8: profit? we would look at a roster of Lonzo/vet Kawhi/Hart/Carter George/Ingram James/Kuzma Randle/room ex./vet
how realistic such scenario is i think we all realize |
Very impressive. You’re a thousand times more qualified than Jim Buss was.
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dcarter4kobe
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Lopez/Frye/T.Bryant
Randle/Kuzma
LeBron/Ingram/47th pick
PG13/Hart
Ball/Vet PG/25th pick
Is enough to take out GS now and still have core future foundation in Randle/Kuzma/Ingram/Hart/Ball/T.Bryant/Draft picks
J.Bell/McGee
Green/Looney
KD/Iggy
Klay/Livingston
Curry/Cook
Our bench/depth is what would put us over the top IMO. |
I know we need a rim protector at C but I think you are asking for locker room trouble if you resign Randle and put him on the bench.
My ideal lineup is
Randle/Lopez/Zubac
LeBron/Kuzma/Bryant
Ingram/Belinelli
PG13/Hart
Ball/Caruso/25th pick
Also, I do not think this lineup can compete with the Warriors in year 1. |
I have Randle starting in my post. Ingram is coming off the bench. Ingram/Randle/Kuzma would all be able to get starter minutes
Lopez-26/Randle-18/Frye-4
Randle-12/Kuzma-28/LeBron-8
LeBron-24/Ingram-24
PG13-32/Hart-16
Ball-30/Vet-12/Ingram-6
LeBron-32/PG-32/Randle-30/Ball-30/Ingram-30/Kuzma-28
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | | GOODRICH25 wrote: | | Arbitrary wrote: | I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
if you want a scenario that works on paper but probably wont be executed in reality, then this:
step 1: max out James and let all our free agents walk, except Randle (12M cap hold) and IT (11M cap hold). it leaves us with James, Deng, Randle, IT, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Ennis, Hart, Zubac, Bryant, 25th.
step 2: find a taker for Deng for 1 1st rounder and Zubac/Bryant, but dont do the trade yet. call PG and tell him to opt in and we will max him out next summer.
step 3: call SA, ask which player they want at 25th, hang up.
step 4: draft their player, call them again, offer IT (wed do a sign and trade once they accept our offer, either to them or to a 3rd team which would send a different player to SA) + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis (if they want) + 25th + 2019/2021 1st (depending on which one you used for Deng). if they play hard ball, wait for other teams to reject them and come back at us.
step 5: when they bite, sign Randle, sign&trade IT + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis + 25th + 2019/2021 1st in the Kawhi deal.
step 6: now call OKC, do a Deng + 1st + Bryant/Zubac to 3rd team, who would send a player OKC like to them for an opted in PG
step 7: use the room exception on Brook/Noel/Davis, add veteran minimum players at backup point guard (Mario Chalmers/Devin Harris/Raymond Felton/Jarrett Jack/Aaron Brooks), another shooter (Vince Carter/Jason Terry - him and James on the same team lol), and another big (Channing Frye/Marreese Speights)
step 8: profit? we would look at a roster of Lonzo/vet Kawhi/Hart/Carter George/Ingram James/Kuzma Randle/room ex./vet
how realistic such scenario is i think we all realize |
Very impressive. You’re a thousand times more qualified than Jim Buss was. |
Not if he thinks the Spurs would acquire a third point guard with double digit per year salary. |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | | GOODRICH25 wrote: | | Arbitrary wrote: | I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
if you want a scenario that works on paper but probably wont be executed in reality, then this:
step 1: max out James and let all our free agents walk, except Randle (12M cap hold) and IT (11M cap hold). it leaves us with James, Deng, Randle, IT, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Ennis, Hart, Zubac, Bryant, 25th.
step 2: find a taker for Deng for 1 1st rounder and Zubac/Bryant, but dont do the trade yet. call PG and tell him to opt in and we will max him out next summer.
step 3: call SA, ask which player they want at 25th, hang up.
step 4: draft their player, call them again, offer IT (wed do a sign and trade once they accept our offer, either to them or to a 3rd team which would send a different player to SA) + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis (if they want) + 25th + 2019/2021 1st (depending on which one you used for Deng). if they play hard ball, wait for other teams to reject them and come back at us.
step 5: when they bite, sign Randle, sign&trade IT + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis + 25th + 2019/2021 1st in the Kawhi deal.
step 6: now call OKC, do a Deng + 1st + Bryant/Zubac to 3rd team, who would send a player OKC like to them for an opted in PG
step 7: use the room exception on Brook/Noel/Davis, add veteran minimum players at backup point guard (Mario Chalmers/Devin Harris/Raymond Felton/Jarrett Jack/Aaron Brooks), another shooter (Vince Carter/Jason Terry - him and James on the same team lol), and another big (Channing Frye/Marreese Speights)
step 8: profit? we would look at a roster of Lonzo/vet Kawhi/Hart/Carter George/Ingram James/Kuzma Randle/room ex./vet
how realistic such scenario is i think we all realize |
Very impressive. You’re a thousand times more qualified than Jim Buss was. |
if this happens i deserve my own TV show
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| lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: | How about Roster C
Lonzo Ball
Paul George
Brandon Ingram
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Bench: Josh Hart, Kyle Kuzma, Thomas Bryant, Ivica Zubac, Channing Frye |
I vote for C |
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| I don't want to lose any of our youth especially since we have cap room. I'll say wait on Leonard and see if he really wants to be here, I'm with Kobe we want players that want to be here. |
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| GOODRICH25 wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | | GOODRICH25 wrote: | | Arbitrary wrote: | I asked Reed over Twitter about this, but I haven't gotten an answer yet.
Thing is, I remember him posting a way to get PG + LeBron and retain Randle this offseason.
Obviously, it only happens when you deal Deng with zero salaries coming back.
My question was (well, still is), what is the path to Kawhi in 2019 with the caveat that I want to keep these players:
LeBron James
Paul George
Julius Randle
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart |
if you want a scenario that works on paper but probably wont be executed in reality, then this:
step 1: max out James and let all our free agents walk, except Randle (12M cap hold) and IT (11M cap hold). it leaves us with James, Deng, Randle, IT, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Ennis, Hart, Zubac, Bryant, 25th.
step 2: find a taker for Deng for 1 1st rounder and Zubac/Bryant, but dont do the trade yet. call PG and tell him to opt in and we will max him out next summer.
step 3: call SA, ask which player they want at 25th, hang up.
step 4: draft their player, call them again, offer IT (wed do a sign and trade once they accept our offer, either to them or to a 3rd team which would send a different player to SA) + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis (if they want) + 25th + 2019/2021 1st (depending on which one you used for Deng). if they play hard ball, wait for other teams to reject them and come back at us.
step 5: when they bite, sign Randle, sign&trade IT + Zubac/Bryant + Ennis + 25th + 2019/2021 1st in the Kawhi deal.
step 6: now call OKC, do a Deng + 1st + Bryant/Zubac to 3rd team, who would send a player OKC like to them for an opted in PG
step 7: use the room exception on Brook/Noel/Davis, add veteran minimum players at backup point guard (Mario Chalmers/Devin Harris/Raymond Felton/Jarrett Jack/Aaron Brooks), another shooter (Vince Carter/Jason Terry - him and James on the same team lol), and another big (Channing Frye/Marreese Speights)
step 8: profit? we would look at a roster of Lonzo/vet Kawhi/Hart/Carter George/Ingram James/Kuzma Randle/room ex./vet
how realistic such scenario is i think we all realize |
Very impressive. You’re a thousand times more qualified than Jim Buss was. |
if this happens i deserve my own TV show |
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