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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:14 pm    Post subject:

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Have we gotten a straight answer on what his injury is/was? Are we supposed to believe he's been out for 3 months with a knee bruise?


We tend to treat our boys like snow flakes. No rush is the motto.


Yea, we should definitely go the Grant Hill route.


Yeah, they should all wear FILAs.

Damn. My first basketball shoe.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:43 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
epak wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Have we gotten a straight answer on what his injury is/was? Are we supposed to believe he's been out for 3 months with a knee bruise?


We tend to treat our boys like snow flakes. No rush is the motto.


Yea, we should definitely go the Grant Hill route.


Yeah, they should all wear FILAs.

Damn. My first basketball shoe.

I was a Converse devotee.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:47 pm    Post subject:

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^ Finally. Yes!

Three things from the video:
1. Elite defense, he shutdown the offensive player
2. I like his shot. Wish he held his follow through instead of moving his body right after.
3. BI's stroke is looking nice.


Most impressive things about this video...BI and Lance's shooting.


Mo 19/30
BI 20/30
Lance 16/20


63.3%
66.6%
80.0%

Born Ready.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject:

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Have we gotten a straight answer on what his injury is/was? Are we supposed to believe he's been out for 3 months with a knee bruise?

There was an article explaining this about 3 weeks ago
Knee bruise or bone bruise is a general term that is used to describe a wide range of severity - kind of like the way "ankle sprain" is used for everything from "stretched to far" to "partial tear" to "fully torn"

In Mo's case, he had a partial micro fracture of a bone in the knee area.
A displaced break or a break all the way through the bone is (according to that article) referred to as a break
But a micro fracture is apparently just a more severe bone bruise.

I'm sure there's a few MD's on here that could clarify that - all I know about it is what was in that article
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
epak wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Have we gotten a straight answer on what his injury is/was? Are we supposed to believe he's been out for 3 months with a knee bruise?


We tend to treat our boys like snow flakes. No rush is the motto.


Yea, we should definitely go the Grant Hill route.


Yeah, they should all wear FILAs.

Damn. My first basketball shoe.


Still have my pair of Grants, and miraculously my ankles as well
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:45 pm    Post subject:

PlantedTanks wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
epak wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Have we gotten a straight answer on what his injury is/was? Are we supposed to believe he's been out for 3 months with a knee bruise?


We tend to treat our boys like snow flakes. No rush is the motto.


Yea, we should definitely go the Grant Hill route.


Yeah, they should all wear FILAs.

Damn. My first basketball shoe.

I was a Converse devotee.

Nice!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject:

panamaniac wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
epak wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Have we gotten a straight answer on what his injury is/was? Are we supposed to believe he's been out for 3 months with a knee bruise?


We tend to treat our boys like snow flakes. No rush is the motto.


Yea, we should definitely go the Grant Hill route.


Yeah, they should all wear FILAs.

Damn. My first basketball shoe.


Still have my pair of Grants, and miraculously my ankles as well



But also
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:49 pm    Post subject:

PlantedTanks wrote:
epak wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
King Randle wrote:
epak wrote:
^ Finally. Yes!

Three things from the video:
1. Elite defense, he shutdown the offensive player
2. I like his shot. Wish he held his follow through instead of moving his body right after.
3. BI's stroke is looking nice.


Most impressive things about this video...BI and Lance's shooting.


Mo 19/30
BI 20/30
Lance 16/20


63.3%
66.6%
80.0%

Born Ready.


Darn I thought I edited and put the % in.


You still did all the hard work of counting each shot.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:24 pm    Post subject:

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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
epak wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Have we gotten a straight answer on what his injury is/was? Are we supposed to believe he's been out for 3 months with a knee bruise?


We tend to treat our boys like snow flakes. No rush is the motto.


Yea, we should definitely go the Grant Hill route.


Yeah, they should all wear FILAs.

Damn. My first basketball shoe.

I was a Converse devotee.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject:

€H£M£$TR¥ wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
panamaniac wrote:
epak wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Have we gotten a straight answer on what his injury is/was? Are we supposed to believe he's been out for 3 months with a knee bruise?


We tend to treat our boys like snow flakes. No rush is the motto.


Yea, we should definitely go the Grant Hill route.


Yeah, they should all wear FILAs.

Damn. My first basketball shoe.

I was a Converse devotee.

LA Gear Catapults: it’s not a shoe, it’s a machine.

I find these side conversations in named threads very amusing.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:22 am    Post subject:

I believe Mo can be the backup 5 when all is said and done. Nothing major maybe 10-15 minutes a night. And they way he plays he could be considered small ball but can also play bigger. Love the potential there. Lebron/Kuz/Beasley can rotate center for 10-15 minutes a night.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:51 am    Post subject:

24Legend007 wrote:
I believe Mo can be the backup 5 when all is said and done. Nothing major maybe 10-15 minutes a night. And they way he plays he could be considered small ball but can also play bigger. Love the potential there. Lebron/Kuz/Beasley can rotate center for 10-15 minutes a night.


Well, he is 6'11" and 240, so I agree. He shall do the job.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:32 pm    Post subject:

24Legend007 wrote:
I believe Mo can be the backup 5 when all is said and done. Nothing major maybe 10-15 minutes a night. And they way he plays he could be considered small ball but can also play bigger. Love the potential there. Lebron/Kuz/Beasley can rotate center for 10-15 minutes a night.


"Done" will likely be a while. SF's were pushing him around in Summer League. He needed (still needs?) serious time in the gym. I doubt his base is better after a summer without leg work, but it's conjecture until we see him playing.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:57 am    Post subject:

Watching last nights game, I was thinking a healthy Mo could have helped us out. Lets see how he looks when the rust comes off, but if he excels, he could be the tag team big man with McGee, and that could be one of the missing pieces in games like the Portland game.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:52 am    Post subject:

What the hell is the deal with his injury? Is he close to ready yet? It’s been over 3 months since his “bruise”.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject:

P.K. wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Have we gotten a straight answer on what his injury is/was? Are we supposed to believe he's been out for 3 months with a knee bruise?

There was an article explaining this about 3 weeks ago
Knee bruise or bone bruise is a general term that is used to describe a wide range of severity - kind of like the way "ankle sprain" is used for everything from "stretched to far" to "partial tear" to "fully torn"

In Mo's case, he had a partial micro fracture of a bone in the knee area.
A displaced break or a break all the way through the bone is (according to that article) referred to as a break
But a micro fracture is apparently just a more severe bone bruise.

I'm sure there's a few MD's on here that could clarify that - all I know about it is what was in that article

I wonder if season-ending microfracture surgery was another possible treatment option for him. Maybe it wasn't severe enough to justify. Hopefully.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:19 am    Post subject:

We need Mo, but it will take time for him to be a steady contribute. Barely played in summer league, no pre season, and pressure to contribute solid minutes right away is a tall order.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:22 am    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
What the hell is the deal with his injury? Is he close to ready yet? It’s been over 3 months since his “bruise”.


There's a problem with Mo's thyroid.

What's wrong with it?

-We can't find it. We're gonna have to perform a thyroid search.

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I would NOT bet money on whether there's an actual injury to his knee at this point. I would maintain the same distance to that bet as I would to a spitting cobra. I have a sinking feeling that that, uh............bruise (wink), is gonna persist for an indeterminate amount of time. It's the bruise of all bruises.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:58 am    Post subject:

People here wondering when he will be back should go watch the actually play he got hurt on (backstage Lakers episode 2 or 3) its pretty bad. I'd expect him out for at least another month
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:15 am    Post subject:

waterman40 wrote:
Watching last nights game, I was thinking a healthy Mo could have helped us out. Lets see how he looks when the rust comes off, but if he excels, he could be the tag team big man with McGee, and that could be one of the missing pieces in games like the Portland game.


I agree just having a mobile center with size will help. Any ideas as to when this guy is going to play?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:50 pm    Post subject:

Great news. He's scrimmaging today.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject:

He fits in much better than Zub in terms what the team is trying to do.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:58 pm    Post subject:

Don't expect much from Mo when he returns. He didn't get to scrimmage till today, has never played a game at NBA speed as of yet, and has yet to step foot on an NBA court.

Expecting him to help early on, even in games like last night is a set up for disappointment.

Zubac at this current time is more of a help than Mo, and Luke isn't playing him either because he's obsessed with the idea of Kuzma at the 5 like D'Antoni was obsessed with Wesley Johnson at the 4, like Byron Scott was obsessed with Ryan Kelly at the 3.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:26 pm    Post subject:

Can't wait for him to be cleared. Ideally, you wouldn't expect a rookie to be in the rotation, but he could be a big help for the team as a pick and pop option. Imagine he and Kuz playing together on the second unit Hurry back, Moe! Hurry back!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:28 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Great news. He's scrimmaging today.


Yep.. he did a full contact 5 on 5 scrimmage.. gonna be exciting to see what he provides for his team when he returns.
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