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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:08 pm    Post subject:

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Moe Wagner has a left ankle sprain and left knee strain, but Simon said Moe was in good spirits and will be reevaluated tomorrow

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject:

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MO is not a bust, but definitely needs a lot of refinement.

I see him being in G League most of the year with this lakers squad.


Not a chance even though he needs to get stronger he STILL provides something to this Lakers squad this year......

He is gonna be on the roster
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:21 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
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Wagner was doing a great job on Knox defensively. He wasn't supposed to be able to guard guys like that, but he has. Really impressive.


when was Wagner defending Knox? Who was defending Mitchell Robinson when this was taking place?


Williams was playing center for us. Mo has consistently been starting at the PF spot during the SL - tonight that meant he was matched up against Knox until he got injured.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject:

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MO is not a bust, but definitely needs a lot of refinement.

I see him being in G League most of the year with this lakers squad.


Not a chance even though he needs to get stronger he STILL provides something to this Lakers squad this year......

He is gonna be on the roster


He’s gonna be on the roster and will get some quality minutes too. His weaknesses at the moment are almost purely from just needing to get stronger.

Offensively, with the amount of open looks he will get from Lonzo, Lebron and Rondo looking for others, he will get those easy 3s.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject:

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BlackStarMamba wrote:
MO is not a bust, but definitely needs a lot of refinement.

I see him being in G League most of the year with this lakers squad.


Not a chance even though he needs to get stronger he STILL provides something to this Lakers squad this year......

He is gonna be on the roster


He’s gonna be on the roster and will get some quality minutes too. His weaknesses at the moment are almost purely from just needing to get stronger.

Offensively, with the amount of open looks he will get from Lonzo, Lebron and Rondo looking for others, he will get those easy 3s.


There are some poster's crying that we drafted Wagner on the board right now....its a real head scratcher for me....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject:

Here was the play by play for Knox v. Mo this game before Mo got injured:

1st Quarter
9:47 Kevin Knox misses 12-foot two point shot 0 - 0
9:33 Moritz Wagner misses driving layup 0 - 0
8:56 Moritz Wagner defensive rebound 0 - 0
8:51 Moritz Wagner misses 26-foot three point jumper 0 - 0

8:36 Kevin Knox bad pass (Moritz Wagner steals) 0 - 0
8:31 Moritz Wagner steps out of bounds turnover 0 - 0
8:08 Moritz Wagner defensive rebound 0 - 0

7:53 Kevin Knox steps out of bounds turnover 2 - 0
7:38 Moritz Wagner makes layup (Alex Caruso assists) 4 - 0
6:26 Kevin Knox misses driving layup 7 - 3
6:26 Moritz Wagner shooting foul 7 - 3
6:12 Josh Hart bad pass (Kevin Knox steals) 7 - 5
5:45 Kevin Knox misses 28-foot three point pullup jump shot 7 - 7
5:25 Moritz Wagner makes free throw 1 of 2 8 - 7
5:25 Moritz Wagner misses free throw 2 of 2 8 - 7

5:23 Kevin Knox defensive rebound 8 - 7
5:11 Kevin Knox misses 20-foot jumper 8 - 7
4:26 Moritz Wagner makes 4-foot two point shot 12 - 9
3:49 Troy Williams lost ball turnover (Moritz Wagner steals) 12 - 12
3:40 Moritz Wagner makes dunk (Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk assists) 14 - 12
2:56 Kevin Knox misses 27-foot three point jumper 16 - 12

Summary: Wagner - 8 Min., 7 Pts (3-5), 2 Rbd, 2 Stl, 1 TOs; Knox - 8 Min., 0 Pts (0-5), 1 Rbd, 1 Stl, 2 TOs

Knox v. Wagner: 8 Min., 0 Pts (0-5), 1 Rbd, 0 Ast, 1 Stl, 2 TOs
Knox v. Field: 25 Min., 29 Pts (9-17), 8 Rbd, 2 Ast, 0 Stl, 5 Tos
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:43 pm    Post subject:

I’m glad he’s getting shut down, he already showed enough.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject:

LakerSanity wrote:
Here was the play by play for Knox v. Mo this game before Mo got injured:

1st Quarter
9:47 Kevin Knox misses 12-foot two point shot 0 - 0
9:33 Moritz Wagner misses driving layup 0 - 0
8:56 Moritz Wagner defensive rebound 0 - 0
8:51 Moritz Wagner misses 26-foot three point jumper 0 - 0

8:36 Kevin Knox bad pass (Moritz Wagner steals) 0 - 0
8:31 Moritz Wagner steps out of bounds turnover 0 - 0
8:08 Moritz Wagner defensive rebound 0 - 0

7:53 Kevin Knox steps out of bounds turnover 2 - 0
7:38 Moritz Wagner makes layup (Alex Caruso assists) 4 - 0
6:26 Kevin Knox misses driving layup 7 - 3
6:26 Moritz Wagner shooting foul 7 - 3
6:12 Josh Hart bad pass (Kevin Knox steals) 7 - 5
5:45 Kevin Knox misses 28-foot three point pullup jump shot 7 - 7
5:25 Moritz Wagner makes free throw 1 of 2 8 - 7
5:25 Moritz Wagner misses free throw 2 of 2 8 - 7

5:23 Kevin Knox defensive rebound 8 - 7
5:11 Kevin Knox misses 20-foot jumper 8 - 7
4:26 Moritz Wagner makes 4-foot two point shot 12 - 9
3:49 Troy Williams lost ball turnover (Moritz Wagner steals) 12 - 12
3:40 Moritz Wagner makes dunk (Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk assists) 14 - 12
2:56 Kevin Knox misses 27-foot three point jumper 16 - 12

Summary: Wagner - 8 Min., 7 Pts (3-5), 2 Rbd, 2 Stl, 1 TOs; Knox - 8 Min., 0 Pts (0-5), 1 Rbd, 1 Stl, 2 TOs

Knox v. Wagner: 8 Min., 0 Pts (0-5), 1 Rbd, 0 Ast, 1 Stl, 2 TOs
Knox v. Field: 25 Min., 29 Pts (9-17), 8 Rbd, 2 Ast, 0 Stl, 5 Tos


Now that's ownership!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:48 pm    Post subject:

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#LakersSummer MEDICAL UPDATE: Center Moritz Wagner, who was injured in the second quarter of last night’s summer league game against the Knicks, underwent an MRI today. Results of the MRI confirmed a left knee contusion.

Wagner will miss the remainder of summer league.

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017193143903457280
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:00 pm    Post subject:

Bleacher report confirms Moe Wagner is out for the rest of summer league.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:07 pm    Post subject:

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#LakersSummer MEDICAL UPDATE: Center Moritz Wagner, who was injured in the second quarter of last night’s summer league game against the Knicks, underwent an MRI today. Results of the MRI confirmed a left knee contusion.

Wagner will miss the remainder of summer league.

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017193143903457280

Good news.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:07 pm    Post subject:

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#LakersSummer MEDICAL UPDATE: Center Moritz Wagner, who was injured in the second quarter of last night’s summer league game against the Knicks, underwent an MRI today. Results of the MRI confirmed a left knee contusion.

Wagner will miss the remainder of summer league.

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017193143903457280


Bummer! Recover soon Mo!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:15 pm    Post subject:

Come back stronger, Mo! I was loving his play. He seems like a good pickup and also another gem find, his steals though. His defense is great, and a pleasant surprise.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject:

Tough loss as he will miss valuable minutes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:51 pm    Post subject:

Loved watching Moe progress this summer league, glad the FO is being careful there is not much depth at center this season lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:09 pm    Post subject:

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#LakersSummer MEDICAL UPDATE: Center Moritz Wagner, who was injured in the second quarter of last night’s summer league game against the Knicks, underwent an MRI today. Results of the MRI confirmed a left knee contusion.

Wagner will miss the remainder of summer league.

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017193143903457280


same as Zo
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject:

Googling knee contusion recovery time says 2 to 4 months? Wait...Is that even right?

Found that Iguodala had a left knee contusion too during the playoffs and he only missed closer to 3 weeks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:37 pm    Post subject:

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#LakersSummer MEDICAL UPDATE: Center Moritz Wagner, who was injured in the second quarter of last night’s summer league game against the Knicks, underwent an MRI today. Results of the MRI confirmed a left knee contusion.

Wagner will miss the remainder of summer league.

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017193143903457280


same as Zo


Didn't Zo have a meniscus tear?

I thought contusion was basically a bone bruise? Never know how long those take to heal completely.

I'm just glad there's no "tear."

Just heal it up to 100% and get ready for the season to go full force. He looked a lot more agile than I expected so I hope this doesn't slow him down. I can see him snagging more minutes than Zu the way he was playing unless Zu also increased his agility.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:43 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, knee contusion is usually a bone bruise not a tear of anything. He'll probably be 100% with a month of rest and recovery/treatment. Nothing serious. Iguodola had one during the playoffs and came back 3 weeks later.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject:

TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
LakerSanity wrote:
Here was the play by play for Knox v. Mo this game before Mo got injured:

1st Quarter
9:47 Kevin Knox misses 12-foot two point shot 0 - 0
9:33 Moritz Wagner misses driving layup 0 - 0
8:56 Moritz Wagner defensive rebound 0 - 0
8:51 Moritz Wagner misses 26-foot three point jumper 0 - 0

8:36 Kevin Knox bad pass (Moritz Wagner steals) 0 - 0
8:31 Moritz Wagner steps out of bounds turnover 0 - 0
8:08 Moritz Wagner defensive rebound 0 - 0

7:53 Kevin Knox steps out of bounds turnover 2 - 0
7:38 Moritz Wagner makes layup (Alex Caruso assists) 4 - 0
6:26 Kevin Knox misses driving layup 7 - 3
6:26 Moritz Wagner shooting foul 7 - 3
6:12 Josh Hart bad pass (Kevin Knox steals) 7 - 5
5:45 Kevin Knox misses 28-foot three point pullup jump shot 7 - 7
5:25 Moritz Wagner makes free throw 1 of 2 8 - 7
5:25 Moritz Wagner misses free throw 2 of 2 8 - 7

5:23 Kevin Knox defensive rebound 8 - 7
5:11 Kevin Knox misses 20-foot jumper 8 - 7
4:26 Moritz Wagner makes 4-foot two point shot 12 - 9
3:49 Troy Williams lost ball turnover (Moritz Wagner steals) 12 - 12
3:40 Moritz Wagner makes dunk (Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk assists) 14 - 12
2:56 Kevin Knox misses 27-foot three point jumper 16 - 12

Summary: Wagner - 8 Min., 7 Pts (3-5), 2 Rbd, 2 Stl, 1 TOs; Knox - 8 Min., 0 Pts (0-5), 1 Rbd, 1 Stl, 2 TOs

Knox v. Wagner: 8 Min., 0 Pts (0-5), 1 Rbd, 0 Ast, 1 Stl, 2 TOs
Knox v. Field: 25 Min., 29 Pts (9-17), 8 Rbd, 2 Ast, 0 Stl, 5 Tos


Now that's ownership!


the problem is it is a total fabrication or at least misleading....Moe defended Knox on 3 possessions and Knox never defended Moe. It began around the 3:30 mark of the 1st Quarter....and then @ 2:56 is when Moe hurt his knee. I have seen this similar post across the board suggesting that Moe shut Knox down....and I thought maybe I totally missed it....re watched and charted every play in the 1st half....3 possessions....about 30 seconds.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject:

pokoy wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
32 wrote:
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#LakersSummer MEDICAL UPDATE: Center Moritz Wagner, who was injured in the second quarter of last night’s summer league game against the Knicks, underwent an MRI today. Results of the MRI confirmed a left knee contusion.

Wagner will miss the remainder of summer league.

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017193143903457280


same as Zo


Didn't Zo have a meniscus tear?

I thought contusion was basically a bone bruise? Never know how long those take to heal completely.

I'm just glad there's no "tear."

Just heal it up to 100% and get ready for the season to go full force. He looked a lot more agile than I expected so I hope this doesn't slow him down. I can see him snagging more minutes than Zu the way he was playing unless Zu also increased his agility.


Lakers' Lonzo Ball injury update: MRI shows knee contusion, rookie listed as day-to-day
The rookie point guard underwent an MRI on Thursday after leaving Wednesday night's game vs. the Mavericks
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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lakers-lonzo-ball-injury-update-mri-shows-knee-contusion-rookie-listed-as-day-to-day/
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:52 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
pokoy wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
32 wrote:
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#LakersSummer MEDICAL UPDATE: Center Moritz Wagner, who was injured in the second quarter of last night’s summer league game against the Knicks, underwent an MRI today. Results of the MRI confirmed a left knee contusion.

Wagner will miss the remainder of summer league.

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1017193143903457280


same as Zo


Didn't Zo have a meniscus tear?

I thought contusion was basically a bone bruise? Never know how long those take to heal completely.

I'm just glad there's no "tear."

Just heal it up to 100% and get ready for the season to go full force. He looked a lot more agile than I expected so I hope this doesn't slow him down. I can see him snagging more minutes than Zu the way he was playing unless Zu also increased his agility.


Lakers' Lonzo Ball injury update: MRI shows knee contusion, rookie listed as day-to-day
The rookie point guard underwent an MRI on Thursday after leaving Wednesday night's game vs. the Mavericks
@ChrisBarnewall
Mar 29, 2018 •

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lakers-lonzo-ball-injury-update-mri-shows-knee-contusion-rookie-listed-as-day-to-day/


Los Angeles Lakers guard Lonzo Ball has a torn meniscus in his left knee, according to Shams Charania of Yahoo Sports Jun 29, 2018
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:48 pm    Post subject:

BlackStarMamba wrote:
MO is not a bust, but definitely needs a lot of refinement.

I see him being in G League most of the year with this lakers squad.


Hah no. He may start some games. Book it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:10 pm    Post subject:

As of right now Wagner is definitely going to be getting minutes unless Zubac takes a massive leap or something.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:28 pm    Post subject:

Mo Wagner consoling player on other team

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bggk9wJB5Xi/
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