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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:47 am    Post subject:

Maybe Lance plays more at PF or PG alongside Svi. Let's see how it plays out.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Day wrote:
Svi Mykhailiuk scored 24 points in 26 minutes on 81.3 TS% (!!!), with 5 rebounds, 3 assists, & 5 steals to lead Ukraine to a 76-65 victory over previously undefeated Spain today.

-Lakers Film Room


Wow. What a find. Sadly Lance will take his minutes this year. But looking forward to him in the future.

We have Hart/Kuz/Svi under contract for less than 5m combined in 2019 IIRC.

Lance should not play over him if Svi is better.


That may be true in theory but there are politics involved here.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject:

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Maybe Lance plays more at PF or PG alongside Svi. Let's see how it plays out.


The "PF" is even more crowded with LBJ/Kuz/Beez.

At PG, assuming Lonzo is healthy, you have Lonzo/Rondo dividing the minutes.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Day wrote:
Svi Mykhailiuk scored 24 points in 26 minutes on 81.3 TS% (!!!), with 5 rebounds, 3 assists, & 5 steals to lead Ukraine to a 76-65 victory over previously undefeated Spain today.

-Lakers Film Room


Wow. What a find. Sadly Lance will take his minutes this year. But looking forward to him in the future.

We have Hart/Kuz/Svi under contract for less than 5m combined in 2019 IIRC.

Lance should not play over him if Svi is better.

IMO we should be playing for the 2019 season where we are making a serious championship push with hopefully picking up another max player. So our younger players like Svi need to get as much experience as possible so that they are that much more ready to help us in 2019 and thats why I rather have players like Lance who wont even be here next season rack up DNPs over Svi
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:59 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Day wrote:
Svi Mykhailiuk scored 24 points in 26 minutes on 81.3 TS% (!!!), with 5 rebounds, 3 assists, & 5 steals to lead Ukraine to a 76-65 victory over previously undefeated Spain today.

-Lakers Film Room


Wow. What a find. Sadly Lance will take his minutes this year. But looking forward to him in the future.

We have Hart/Kuz/Svi under contract for less than 5m combined in 2019 IIRC.

Lance should not play over him if Svi is better.


That may be true in theory but there are politics involved here.

I stand by my prediction that Lance gets cut before the end of the season.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:00 am    Post subject:

audioaxes wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Day wrote:
Svi Mykhailiuk scored 24 points in 26 minutes on 81.3 TS% (!!!), with 5 rebounds, 3 assists, & 5 steals to lead Ukraine to a 76-65 victory over previously undefeated Spain today.

-Lakers Film Room


Wow. What a find. Sadly Lance will take his minutes this year. But looking forward to him in the future.

We have Hart/Kuz/Svi under contract for less than 5m combined in 2019 IIRC.

Lance should not play over him if Svi is better.

IMO we should be playing for the 2019 season where we are making a serious championship push with hopefully picking up another max player. So our younger players like Svi need to get as much experience as possible so that they are that much more ready to help us in 2019 and thats why I rather have players like Lance who wont even be here next season rack up DNPs over Svi

Great point.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:00 am    Post subject:

I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:02 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:04 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Day wrote:
Svi Mykhailiuk scored 24 points in 26 minutes on 81.3 TS% (!!!), with 5 rebounds, 3 assists, & 5 steals to lead Ukraine to a 76-65 victory over previously undefeated Spain today.

-Lakers Film Room


Wow. What a find. Sadly Lance will take his minutes this year. But looking forward to him in the future.

We have Hart/Kuz/Svi under contract for less than 5m combined in 2019 IIRC.

Lance should not play over him if Svi is better.


That may be true in theory but there are politics involved here.

I stand by my prediction that Lance gets cut before the end of the season.


I think that's a possibility, or he gets traded or asked to be released.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:08 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:19 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:21 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.


Maybe he'll ask the NBA to make games 75 minutes long.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:26 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.


lmao bro what?

Theres only a certain number of minutes allowed to around and we have like 11 guys expecting minutes before he is. The rookies are only getting major minutes if theres a injury or a blowout.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:27 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.


Maybe he'll ask the NBA to make games 75 minutes long.


I like Luke as a coach a lot, but his line ups tend to suck and he’s quite stubborn sometimes. He treated Josh Hart like Scott treated Clarkson that first season. Maybe worse. Luke gets no credit for Hart’s development in my book. He just lucked into him since everyone else was hurt.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:34 am    Post subject:

1ngr4m wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.


lmao bro what?

Theres only a certain number of minutes allowed to around and we have like 11 guys expecting minutes before he is. The rookies are only getting major minutes if theres a injury or a blowout.


We’ll see, Lance can play multiple positions heck even Svi can, I understand that some players will have to sacrifice there minutes but most of these guys are versatile.. there will find a way to get minutes.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:34 am    Post subject:

Luke's issues will be:

1. you have a bunch of 1 year deal vets in Rondo/Lance/Beez who won't just sit down and be content with minimal PT. Lance has averaged 24mpg in his career, he won't all of a sudden be happy with a sporadic 10-12mpg.

2. do you prioritize developing young players or just go with the safety blanket vets who will likely be gone next year?

3. LBJ. Best player in the world, but not exactly the easiest to coach. Most of the all time greats seem to be that way.

Just a few of the landmines he will have to navigate past.
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AFireInside619 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.


Maybe he'll ask the NBA to make games 75 minutes long.


I like Luke as a coach a lot, but his line ups tend to suck and he’s quite stubborn sometimes. He treated Josh Hart like Scott treated Clarkson that first season. Maybe worse. Luke gets no credit for Hart’s development in my book. He just lucked into him since everyone else was hurt.


Phil Jackson was basically the same, and that worked out pretty well.
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Inspector Gadget wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.


lmao bro what?

Theres only a certain number of minutes allowed to around and we have like 11 guys expecting minutes before he is. The rookies are only getting major minutes if theres a injury or a blowout.


We’ll see, Lance can play multiple positions heck even Svi can, I understand that some players will have to sacrifice there minutes but most of these guys are versatile.. there will find a way to get minutes.


I don't think you understand, most of these guys are already sacrificing minutes before factoring in Svi. Someone has to straight up drop out the rotation for Svi to come in. Luke is a third year coach, he's trying to win now with Lebron, he's not about to take a vets minutes away for a rookie.

Lonzo/Rondo

KCP/Hart

BI/Lance

Lebron/Kuzma

McGee/Ivica

then you have Micheal Beasley who probably will get minutes at the forward and backup center. All you have left is third string minutes, the rookies aren't about to take a one year contract player out the rotation.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:42 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Luke's issues will be:

1. you have a bunch of 1 year deal vets in Rondo/Lance/Beez who won't just sit down and be content with minimal PT. Lance has averaged 24mpg in his career, he won't all of a sudden be happy with a sporadic 10-12mpg.

2. do you prioritize developing young players or just go with the safety blanket vets who will likely be gone next year?

3. LBJ. Best player in the world, but not exactly the easiest to coach. Most of the all time greats seem to be that way.

Just a few of the landmines he will have to navigate past.


Young players will get PT and so will the vets. These guys aren’t projects, they are all ready to contribute and help the team win.
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1ngr4m wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.


lmao bro what?

Theres only a certain number of minutes allowed to around and we have like 11 guys expecting minutes before he is. The rookies are only getting major minutes if theres a injury or a blowout.


We’ll see, Lance can play multiple positions heck even Svi can, I understand that some players will have to sacrifice there minutes but most of these guys are versatile.. there will find a way to get minutes.


I don't think you understand, most of these guys are already sacrificing minutes before factoring in Svi. Someone has to straight up drop out the rotation for Svi to come in. Luke is a third year coach, he's trying to win now with Lebron, he's not about to take a vets minutes away for a rookie.

Lonzo/Rondo

KCP/Hart

BI/Lance

Lebron/Kuzma

McGee/Ivica

then you have Micheal Beasley who probably will get minutes at the forward and backup center. All you have left is third string minutes, the rookies aren't about to take a one year contract player out the rotation.


That’s fine, even if Svi can’t play a lot this year due to PT difficulty he’s gonna be great for us in our next dynasty run.
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Inspector Gadget wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.


lmao bro what?

Theres only a certain number of minutes allowed to around and we have like 11 guys expecting minutes before he is. The rookies are only getting major minutes if theres a injury or a blowout.


We’ll see, Lance can play multiple positions heck even Svi can, I understand that some players will have to sacrifice there minutes but most of these guys are versatile.. there will find a way to get minutes.


I don't think you understand, most of these guys are already sacrificing minutes before factoring in Svi. Someone has to straight up drop out the rotation for Svi to come in. Luke is a third year coach, he's trying to win now with Lebron, he's not about to take a vets minutes away for a rookie.

Lonzo/Rondo

KCP/Hart

BI/Lance

Lebron/Kuzma

McGee/Ivica

then you have Micheal Beasley who probably will get minutes at the forward and backup center. All you have left is third string minutes, the rookies aren't about to take a one year contract player out the rotation.


That’s fine, even if Svi can’t play a lot this year due to PT difficulty he’s gonna be great for us in our next dynasty run.


I sure hope so. I'm excited to see how Luke handle's the minutes this year because at the very least he has 10 guys that most likey assume they're here to get consistent minutes. Ivica Zubac would be the 11th if he got minutes. Alot of pressure on Luke
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yinoma2001 wrote:
Luke's issues will be:

1. you have a bunch of 1 year deal vets in Rondo/Lance/Beez who won't just sit down and be content with minimal PT. Lance has averaged 24mpg in his career, he won't all of a sudden be happy with a sporadic 10-12mpg.

2. do you prioritize developing young players or just go with the safety blanket vets who will likely be gone next year?

3. LBJ. Best player in the world, but not exactly the easiest to coach. Most of the all time greats seem to be that way.

Just a few of the landmines he will have to navigate past.


Young players will get PT and so will the vets. These guys aren’t projects, they are all ready to contribute and help the team win.


Umm, that's the whole problem.
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AFireInside619 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Svi racks up early PT in the Gleague where he dominates.

Come 12/15, maybe Lance isn't happy about his PT and is traded (remember when he signed with Charlotte he bounced pretty quickly). Then Svi gets a chance.

Or maybe Lance is around until the trade deadline (or on the playoff roster) and Svi essentially has to redshirt this year.


Just curious, why can’t Lance play and have Svi still get PT? Lance is strong enough to get bulk of his minutes at PF.. I think fans are overexaggerating on the PT for our players.


PG: Lonzo/Rondo split
SG: KCP/Hart split
SF: BI 33-34mpg.
PF: LBJ/Kuz/Beez split.

Lance's minutes will come from:

1. injuries at PG/SG/BI.
2. 10-12mpg at SF.


I think Luke is smart enough to find PT for everyone.


Maybe he'll ask the NBA to make games 75 minutes long.


I like Luke as a coach a lot, but his line ups tend to suck and he’s quite stubborn sometimes. He treated Josh Hart like Scott treated Clarkson that first season. Maybe worse. Luke gets no credit for Hart’s development in my book. He just lucked into him since everyone else was hurt.


Well, that's true. If we go revisit Those early games, Hart can't bought a basket.
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