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| l4kerz wrote: | | oldlakerfan wrote: | I think the plan should be to get SVI ready for the rotation later in the season by giving him some good G League time. I think all he needs to do is find his confidence and aggressiveness which he can do in the G League.
He has an all round game but is a great shooter and his skill are perfect for this team. He is a 2-3 who can guard the 1-3 spots even with those short arms. If he has Bonga arms he would have been a top 10 pick. |
From what I’ve seen, he has no issues with confidence and aggressiveness. His shots just weren’t landing. |
Really? I saw the games he played in the SL. It has been very apparent to me that he was full of nervous energy. Especially when he has tried certain types of passes in the preseason. They were soft and predictable. They were also turnovers. It looked to me like someone not wanting to make mistakes, while at the same time adjusting to the speed, length, and skills of the NBA.
Last night he looked like the calm, settled dead-eye shooter from the SL. This kid can really play, and its befuddles me as to how he was still there at pick 47. |
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I love how he always finds space to get open, either it be on a drive, a cut or flaring out for 3s. He just has to start knocking down his open shots like the last game.
One worry though is his defense. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | I love how he always finds space to get open, either it be on a drive, a cut or flaring out for 3s. He just has to start knocking down his open shots like the last game.
One worry though is his defense. |
How does it worry you?
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| Megaton wrote: | Awesome confidence game for Svi! You could pinpoint exactly the moment where Svi gained confidence this game and then became the player we saw in SL and what he can be for this team.
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He made his first 3, and then free throws and that helped, but later in the game, he went to shoot and you could hear taunts from the Warriors bench. The next time down, he shot it from distance and missed, but after that, when he got the ball, he was aggressive and he started putting it up with a purpose. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | l4kerz wrote: | | oldlakerfan wrote: | I think the plan should be to get SVI ready for the rotation later in the season by giving him some good G League time. I think all he needs to do is find his confidence and aggressiveness which he can do in the G League.
He has an all round game but is a great shooter and his skill are perfect for this team. He is a 2-3 who can guard the 1-3 spots even with those short arms. If he has Bonga arms he would have been a top 10 pick. |
From what I’ve seen, he has no issues with confidence and aggressiveness. His shots just weren’t landing. |
Really? I saw the games he played in the SL. It has been very apparent to me that he was full of nervous energy. Especially when he has tried certain types of passes in the preseason. They were soft and predictable. They were also turnovers. It looked to me like someone not wanting to make mistakes, while at the same time adjusting to the speed, length, and skills of the NBA.
Last night he looked like the calm, settled dead-eye shooter from the SL. This kid can really play, and its befuddles me as to how he was still there at pick 47. |
Yes, the confidence issues were more than with the shot. It’s about things like decision making in certain situations and not really knowing what you can do. On the drive, he’d feel a little pressure and pass too early before the D would fully commit. That’s not having confidence that you can get another dribble in or wait another beat, then make that pass or go for the finish if the D doesn’t commit. It’s the little hesitations or lack of poise because you aren’t quite sure or trusting that you can do what you want to do is what I had been seeing. Summer League he was decisive. |
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I think Lonzo and Kuzma are good players to pair with Svi. Zo can get you open looks if you keep moving and both Svi and Kuz move and shoot. Get Svi a couple easy looks and it will open up his game, even boosting his confidence and making him more decisive.
In the first few preseason games he was with bench players who weren't setting him up. |
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Svi will be fine. He is just now adjusting to the speed of the game.
The college game, summer league, and the pros all have different speed and spacing elements.
Svi has talent. Period. That talent will eventually manifest itself in real NBA games. That is why the Lakers drafted him.
The Lakers have been doing very well in their drafts. That is the hallmark for having a successful franchise. A team must be able to find players no matter where they are picking in the draft. That is why maintaining draft picks is so important to developing a franchise.
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| Let’s hope he’s another Steve Kerr, that would give us a valuable guy off the bench. |
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PG.Lebron
SG.Svi
SF.KCP
PF.Wear
C.Kuzma
I would like to see that for a few minutes |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | epak wrote: | I love how he always finds space to get open, either it be on a drive, a cut or flaring out for 3s. He just has to start knocking down his open shots like the last game.
One worry though is his defense. |
How does it worry you? |
I don't think his one on one defense is good.
His team defense I thought was good in summer league but it didn't look so good in the pre season. Hoping it's an anomaly and not that he shines when playing against g league guys only. |
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| Played with a lot more confidence his last preseason game. You could see him asking for the ball times. We need his shot to be legit. He shot the three ball poorly, but imo his FT shooting (8-8 in preseason) is an indicator that there's something there to work with. His form looks pretty good too. |
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| Gatekeeper wrote: | | Peja Stojakovic mkII |
Would be nice but not counting on an all star caliber player like Peja. |
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| ducasse2 wrote: | | Gatekeeper wrote: | | Peja Stojakovic mkII |
Would be nice but not counting on an all star caliber player like Peja. |
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Luminous8
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | ducasse2 wrote: | | Gatekeeper wrote: | | Peja Stojakovic mkII |
Would be nice but not counting on an all star caliber player like Peja. |
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Peja would be a better offensive player in this era. Klay is better on D, but Peja was real Deal on O.
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| Gatekeeper wrote: | | Peja Stojakovic mkII |
Peja at one was an MVP candidate and did have few Allstar years. He’s more like a little mix of Sasha and Jaric. |
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Maybe we should calm down a little bit and start with 2011-2012 Knicks Steve Novak.
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | | Maybe we should calm down a little bit and start with 2011-2012 Knicks Steve Novak. |
Novak was one dimensional player. Pure shooter and nothing else. |
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| CRoost wrote: | | 1ngr4m wrote: | | Maybe we should calm down a little bit and start with 2011-2012 Knicks Steve Novak. |
Novak was one dimensional player. Pure shooter and nothing else. |
For his rookie season, that one dimension is all we need on the offensive end from him.
Him not being a defensive liability like Novak would be a plus but I don't see him getting to do much more or even getting too many minutes if any to start the season.
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | | CRoost wrote: | | 1ngr4m wrote: | | Maybe we should calm down a little bit and start with 2011-2012 Knicks Steve Novak. |
Novak was one dimensional player. Pure shooter and nothing else. |
For his rookie season, that one dimension is all we need on the offensive end from him.
Him not being a defensive liability like Novak would be a plus but I don't see him getting to do much more or even getting too many minutes if any to start the season. |
He seems like a guy that's going to need minutes to get himself acclimated to the game. I don't believe at this stage in his young career you can just plug him in and expect him to hit three's like Korver. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | epak wrote: | I love how he always finds space to get open, either it be on a drive, a cut or flaring out for 3s. He just has to start knocking down his open shots like the last game.
One worry though is his defense. |
How does it worry you? |
I don't think his one on one defense is good.
His team defense I thought was good in summer league but it didn't look so good in the pre season. Hoping it's an anomaly and not that he shines when playing against g league guys only. |
I hope it does, too. I see his short wingspan come into play here and there, but I was wondering if you recalled specific examples of his team defense lacking.
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | governator wrote: | | ducasse2 wrote: | | Gatekeeper wrote: | | Peja Stojakovic mkII |
Would be nice but not counting on an all star caliber player like Peja. |
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Peja would be a better offensive player in this era. Klay is better on D, but Peja was real Deal on O. |
Peja really was a beast. Averaged 24 points one year on 43% 3P and 48% FG.
In this era? Dude would kill it.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Megaton wrote: | | Luminous8 wrote: | | governator wrote: | | ducasse2 wrote: | | Gatekeeper wrote: | | Peja Stojakovic mkII |
Would be nice but not counting on an all star caliber player like Peja. |
Go higher
Klay Thompson |
Peja would be a better offensive player in this era. Klay is better on D, but Peja was real Deal on O. |
Peja really was a beast. Averaged 24 points one year on 43% 3P and 48% FG.
In this era? Dude would kill it. |
A bunch of European players would look good today. Give us a prime Kucoc and Petrovic and we’d win an NBA title this year. |
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| Right now if we could just get a 2008 Sasha out of the kid for his rookie year I’d be absolutely ecstatic. Long term, I still see Mike Miller with a better ability to catch quick fire like a Klay, Reggie, Drazen. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | epak wrote: | I love how he always finds space to get open, either it be on a drive, a cut or flaring out for 3s. He just has to start knocking down his open shots like the last game.
One worry though is his defense. |
How does it worry you? |
I don't think his one on one defense is good.
His team defense I thought was good in summer league but it didn't look so good in the pre season. Hoping it's an anomaly and not that he shines when playing against g league guys only. |
I hope it does, too. I see his short wingspan come into play here and there, but I was wondering if you recalled specific examples of his team defense lacking. |
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