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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:00 pm    Post subject:

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Also, wouldn't be surprised to see LBJ/Kuz play some SF minutes too.


Maybe Lebron starts there. It is possible the Alpha dog Kuzma to force his way into the starting lineup

F Lebron G Hart
C McGee
PF Kuzma PG Ball

Bench

F Ingram G KCP
C Zubac
PF Beasley PG Rondo

6'9 lineup

C Beasley PF Lebron SF Kuzma SG Svi PG Ingram
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:46 pm    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
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Also, wouldn't be surprised to see LBJ/Kuz play some SF minutes too.


Maybe Lebron starts there. It is possible the Alpha dog Kuzma to force his way into the starting lineup

F Lebron G Hart
C McGee
PF Kuzma PG Ball

Bench

F Ingram G KCP
C Zubac
PF Beasley PG Rondo

6'9 lineup

C Beasley PF Lebron SF Kuzma SG Svi PG Ingram


In my opinion Stephenson is going to be part of the rotation. Zubac has to prove to me he can play.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject:

King Randle wrote:
Car54 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Also, wouldn't be surprised to see LBJ/Kuz play some SF minutes too.


Maybe Lebron starts there. It is possible the Alpha dog Kuzma to force his way into the starting lineup

F Lebron G Hart
C McGee
PF Kuzma PG Ball

Bench

F Ingram G KCP
C Zubac
PF Beasley PG Rondo

6'9 lineup

C Beasley PF Lebron SF Kuzma SG Svi PG Ingram


In my opinion Stephenson is going to be part of the rotation. Zubac has to prove to me he can play.


I've been asking and no one can break it down where it shows how Lance can be a part of the rotation without major minutes being cut elsewhere.

The ONLY way I see it is if he gets the backup SF minutes on a regular basis, and can fill out backup guard spots in case of injury.

So:

SF: BI (33)/Lance (15) on the regular.

But I question even that as I think Kuz/LBJ may be playing some "SF" too as we have 3 PFs who need minutes in LBJ/Kuz/Beez also.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
Car54 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Also, wouldn't be surprised to see LBJ/Kuz play some SF minutes too.


Maybe Lebron starts there. It is possible the Alpha dog Kuzma to force his way into the starting lineup

F Lebron G Hart
C McGee
PF Kuzma PG Ball

Bench

F Ingram G KCP
C Zubac
PF Beasley PG Rondo

6'9 lineup

C Beasley PF Lebron SF Kuzma SG Svi PG Ingram


In my opinion Stephenson is going to be part of the rotation. Zubac has to prove to me he can play.


I've been asking and no one can break it down where it shows how Lance can be a part of the rotation without major minutes being cut elsewhere.

The ONLY way I see it is if he gets the backup SF minutes on a regular basis, and can fill out backup guard spots in case of injury.

So:

SF: BI (33)/Lance (15) on the regular.

But I question even that as I think Kuz/LBJ may be playing some "SF" too as we have 3 PFs who need minutes in LBJ/Kuz/Beez also.



Minutes
PF: Bron 22 (10 back up center)
SF: Ingram 32
C: McGee 20
PG: Ball 26
SG: KCP 26
Rondo: 22
Kuzma: 24 (back up PF)
Stephenson: 15 (back up SF)
Beasley: 14 (back up center)
Hart: 22 back up SG

Wagner
Svi
Zubac (Wherever they can get minutes)

I see something like this happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject:

I actually don't mind Svi not getting minutes for the first 20 games of the year, and having him get skill-set reps in the Gleague(continue working that ball handling,and getting used to NBA range). After that, I do want him taking all of Lance's minutes. At worst Lance should be an "every other game" guy. Play him one game, and if he's badddd like he can be, play Svi the next game instead.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:31 pm    Post subject:

King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
Car54 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Also, wouldn't be surprised to see LBJ/Kuz play some SF minutes too.


Maybe Lebron starts there. It is possible the Alpha dog Kuzma to force his way into the starting lineup

F Lebron G Hart
C McGee
PF Kuzma PG Ball

Bench

F Ingram G KCP
C Zubac
PF Beasley PG Rondo

6'9 lineup

C Beasley PF Lebron SF Kuzma SG Svi PG Ingram


In my opinion Stephenson is going to be part of the rotation. Zubac has to prove to me he can play.


I've been asking and no one can break it down where it shows how Lance can be a part of the rotation without major minutes being cut elsewhere.

The ONLY way I see it is if he gets the backup SF minutes on a regular basis, and can fill out backup guard spots in case of injury.

So:

SF: BI (33)/Lance (15) on the regular.

But I question even that as I think Kuz/LBJ may be playing some "SF" too as we have 3 PFs who need minutes in LBJ/Kuz/Beez also.



Minutes
PF: Bron 22 (10 back up center)
SF: Ingram 32
C: McGee 20
PG: Ball 26
SG: KCP 26
Rondo: 22
Kuzma: 24 (back up PF)
Stephenson: 15 (back up SF)
Beasley: 14 (back up center)
Hart: 22 back up SG

Wagner
Svi
Zubac (Wherever they can get minutes)

I see something like this happening.


I don't see the Lakers playing Beez/LBJ 24 mpg at center.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
Car54 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Also, wouldn't be surprised to see LBJ/Kuz play some SF minutes too.


Maybe Lebron starts there. It is possible the Alpha dog Kuzma to force his way into the starting lineup

F Lebron G Hart
C McGee
PF Kuzma PG Ball

Bench

F Ingram G KCP
C Zubac
PF Beasley PG Rondo

6'9 lineup

C Beasley PF Lebron SF Kuzma SG Svi PG Ingram


In my opinion Stephenson is going to be part of the rotation. Zubac has to prove to me he can play.


I've been asking and no one can break it down where it shows how Lance can be a part of the rotation without major minutes being cut elsewhere.

The ONLY way I see it is if he gets the backup SF minutes on a regular basis, and can fill out backup guard spots in case of injury.

So:

SF: BI (33)/Lance (15) on the regular.

But I question even that as I think Kuz/LBJ may be playing some "SF" too as we have 3 PFs who need minutes in LBJ/Kuz/Beez also.



Minutes
PF: Bron 22 (10 back up center)
SF: Ingram 32
C: McGee 20
PG: Ball 26
SG: KCP 26
Rondo: 22
Kuzma: 24 (back up PF)
Stephenson: 15 (back up SF)
Beasley: 14 (back up center)
Hart: 22 back up SG

Wagner
Svi
Zubac (Wherever they can get minutes)

I see something like this happening.


I don't see the Lakers playing Beez/LBJ 24 mpg at center.


One may play PF while the other plays center...Its not an exact breakdown...just what i see happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:44 pm    Post subject:

Kuz will play more than mid 20s minutes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:48 pm    Post subject:

Nobody but lebron plays more than 28mpg

JaVale McGee only averages around 12 mpg for most of his career. Why would that change now?

So plug him in for about 12 mpg and the rest probably go to Beasley on most nights and zubac/Wagner on the nights when teams are too big to go small.

There are 36 mpg to fill at the center spot and guys like Kuzma, Beasley and lebron will get those minutes. So, there are actually 84 minutes remaining after mcgee sits.

~32- lebron between pf/c
~28- Kuzma
~24- Beasley (on most nights. He played 22mpg last season).

When teams go big Beasley probably doesn’t play those games and Wagner or zubac does.

Lance will get ~ 20 mpg too. Stop kidding yourself, there’s no way he gets beat out by a rookie. There’s also no way he leaves Indiana to come ride the pine in La. he played around 22 mpg last season.

Rondo played 26 mpg last season. Since Lonzo can play minutes anywhere from 1-3, I can see him playing 2 minutes at shooting guard and maybe even 2 at sf here and there throughout games. That’s 4 minutes you can give rondo at point

Lonzo 24/ rondo 24
Kcp 24/ hart 22/ Lonzo 2
Ingram 28/ lance 20/ Lonzo 2
Lebron 24/ Kuzma 24
Javale 12/lebron 8/ Kuzma 6/ Beasley/22
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject:

There is no way the Lakers are playing non centers for 36 out of 48 minutes.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:16 pm    Post subject:

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There is no way the Lakers are playing non centers for 36 out of 48 minutes.


I don't think so either and I think McGee plays 15-20 mpg
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject:

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There is no way the Lakers are playing non centers for 36 out of 48 minutes.


McGee (16) | LeBron (10) | Beasley and/or Zubac (22)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:45 pm    Post subject:

You see this idiot Pat Beverly trying to trash talk us and bully Lonzo.

He will be talking to Lance a lot this season heehhehehhe
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:21 pm    Post subject:

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You see this idiot Pat Beverly trying to trash talk us and bully Lonzo.

He will be talking to Lance a lot this season heehhehehhe


The Clippers tend to have trash talkers almost every season but yet can’t even do much in terms of success, there only championship is beating the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:02 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:20 pm    Post subject:

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There is no way the Lakers are playing non centers for 36 out of 48 minutes.


I also don't see Lonzo and Ingram playing less than 30 minutes.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:23 pm    Post subject:

I'd love to be proven wrong but I think that signing Lance is the 1st major misstep of the Maginka FO.

Lance's defense is atrocious. His DRPM on the year he was with the clips and grizzlies was -1.5 and it was worse last year at -3.00. His on/off last year with the pacers was at a dismal -8.6. The pacers were correct in not signing him to a new contract. This was a quote from the pacers GM:

"We love Lance. We love Lance on the court, we love Lance off the court. Sometimes, he was the best player on our team and sometimes he was the best player on the other team. We love Lance and we wish him the best."

He's also terribly inefficient on offense. He shot only 28.9% on 232 attempts last year which was close to his career average of 30%. I'm not expecting him to make a significant improvement in that regard.This dude was a worse 3pt shooter than Lonzo Ball last year. Let that sink in.

The worst part is that he would probably be taking minutes away from Hart and Svi. We didn't really have to sign Stephenson. I'd rather have Kuz, Svi or Hart get the minutes as the backup 3. I would be incensed if we allow Lance to chuck away 200+ attempts from 3 this season with his sub 30% shooting while we have Svi, Hart and Kuz who should be taking his minutes and shots instead.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:27 pm    Post subject:

If he doesn't hit at least 35% from 3 he shouldn't play.
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If he doesn't hit at least 35% from 3 he shouldn't play.


Even though Metta didn’t shoot above 35% he played plenty with the Lakers, though I think he can end up with a higher % cause he seems really locked in this summer with his 3pt shooting.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject:

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If he doesn't hit at least 35% from 3 he shouldn't play.


Even though Metta didn’t shoot above 35% he played plenty with the Lakers, though I think he can end up with a higher % cause he seems really locked in this summer with his 3pt shooting.


Different scenario with Kobe and Pau vs LBJ. Metta also brought aggressive defense - Lance is.till living off his reputation from the 2014 ECF.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:52 pm    Post subject:

matrixskillz wrote:
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If he doesn't hit at least 35% from 3 he shouldn't play.


Even though Metta didn’t shoot above 35% he played plenty with the Lakers, though I think he can end up with a higher % cause he seems really locked in this summer with his 3pt shooting.


Different scenario with Kobe and Pau vs LBJ. Metta also brought aggressive defense - Lance is.till living off his reputation from the 2014 ECF.


yep. who was Ron's backup?
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matrixskillz wrote:
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If he doesn't hit at least 35% from 3 he shouldn't play.


Even though Metta didn’t shoot above 35% he played plenty with the Lakers, though I think he can end up with a higher % cause he seems really locked in this summer with his 3pt shooting.


Different scenario with Kobe and Pau vs LBJ. Metta also brought aggressive defense - Lance is.till living off his reputation from the 2014 ECF.


Not to sound like a homer but I will take this team over Kobe/Pau Lakers.. also Ron Ron’s defense really went south after his 1st year.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:37 am    Post subject:

I think with Lance on board no more Beverly and Murray saying crap during games. We have now many bad guys. Lance, Rondo, Kuzma, even Lebron. No more messing around with the Lakers.
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Inspector Gadget wrote:
matrixskillz wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
matrixskillz wrote:
If he doesn't hit at least 35% from 3 he shouldn't play.


Even though Metta didn’t shoot above 35% he played plenty with the Lakers, though I think he can end up with a higher % cause he seems really locked in this summer with his 3pt shooting.


Different scenario with Kobe and Pau vs LBJ. Metta also brought aggressive defense - Lance is.till living off his reputation from the 2014 ECF.


Not to sound like a homer but I will take this team over Kobe/Pau Lakers.. also Ron Ron’s defense really went south after his 1st year.


2018-19 Lakers over 2 time champ Kobe/Pau?

You must be out of your mind...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:48 am    Post subject:

Biggest questions in rotation seem to be Zubac, Stevenson & Beasley.

When we need a real center for match up reasons Zubac will get the call

When the offense just seems to be breaking down Beasley will get the call.

Stevenson may be part of the rotation but I do not see a speciality reason to bring him in. He needs to compete with Hart, KCP, Kuzma & Ingram and maybe Beasley to get minutes.

We have a lot of depth that can play in many different combinations. I think Zubac will get regular backup center minutes as our we don't really have anyone who looks like a small ball center. Yes Lebron will be tried there but he is probably good for 10 minute max. McGee is a 15-20 minute player and nobody else really fits the bill and only McGee can defend a real center.

I think we will see Zubac get 10-15 minutes per game and he may get some of McGee's minutes against bigger centers.

Of course if any of the young guys falter Stevenson & Beasley will gobble up their minutes as we are focused on winning now.
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