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JPaulK0n
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 Here are the lineups that I've been using on 2K and probably most likely so far with the current roster.
Ball/Rondo
KCP/Hart
Ingram/Lance
Bron/Kuzma
McGee/Wagner or Zubac (Going with Wagner due to his ability to spread the floor)
Crunch time lineups I have come up with 2 so far:
Ball/KCP/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron and Rondo/Ball/Ingram/Kuzma/Bron
Everyone is going to freak out about Rondo and Ball playing together since they both can't shoot, but Ball was able to play with 5'9'' Isaiah Thomas and it didn't hurt the team's defense much at all and IT shot only 38% as a Laker, yet it didn't hurt the Lakers offense or defense. I think 2 high IQ PG's will find a way to play together when they are on the floor together, as I think Ball can play with any PG & SG in the league imo due to how versatile his game is. Ball can play off the ball and Bron would have 3 ball handlers and playmakers in Ball/Rondo/Ingram that can create plays for Bron instead of Bron doing everything. The small ball lineup that closed out a lot of games last year was Ball/KCP/Ingram/Kuzma/Randle, so you are going from Randle to Bron now in that small ball lineup to close out games. |
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Villain6Activated
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| jiplaker wrote: | PG--ball---rondo---caruso
SG--caldwell---hart---andre ingram
SF--james---stephenson---mykhailiuk
PF--beasley---kuzma---harrell
C---mcgee---zubac---wagner
IN: beasley (knicks) -- 13 pts ,5 rbs last year
harrell (clippers) -- 11 pts ,4 rbs last year
OUT: brandon ingram
luol deng
Isaac bonga
malik newman |
You wanna get rid of Ingram for Beasley and Harrell? Is everything ok bro?
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CantStopJM
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Some of you guys aren't being realistic.
You guys think the FO signed Lance to not play him?
It's not about what YOU WANT, it's what's REALISTIC. Lance not playing isn't realistic.
I imagine the depth chart will be:
Lonzo/Rondo
KCP/Hart
BI/Lance
Bron/Kuz
McGee/Bron/Wagner
Minutes:
Lonzo(30)/Rondo(18)
KCP(28)/Hart(20)
Ingram(34)/Lance(14)
Bron(23)/Kuz(25)
McGee(22)/Bron(12)/Wagner(14) |
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fusuyballer
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| CantStopJM wrote: | Some of you guys aren't being realistic.
You guys think the FO signed Lance to not play him?
It's not about what YOU WANT, it's what's REALISTIC. Lance not playing isn't realistic.
I imagine the depth chart will be:
Lonzo/Rondo
KCP/Hart
BI/Lance
Bron/Kuz
McGee/Bron/Wagner
Minutes:
Lonzo(30)/Rondo(18)
KCP(28)/Hart(20)
Ingram(34)/Lance(14)
Bron(23)/Kuz(25)
McGee(22)/Bron(12)/Wagner(14) |
Good stuff. |
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| Why are we slotting in more minutes for KCP than Hart? Magic already said Hart may start. We’ve done enough for KCP w the $$$$$$$ we don’t need to give him free playing time as well. He’s good but often boneheaded .. Hart can bring the same skills without the chucking |
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DShotMaker1824
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| CantStopJM wrote: | Some of you guys aren't being realistic.
You guys think the FO signed Lance to not play him?
It's not about what YOU WANT, it's what's REALISTIC. Lance not playing isn't realistic.
I imagine the depth chart will be:
Lonzo/Rondo
KCP/Hart
BI/Lance
Bron/Kuz
McGee/Bron/Wagner
Minutes:
Lonzo(30)/Rondo(18)
KCP(28)/Hart(20)
Ingram(34)/Lance(14)
Bron(23)/Kuz(25)
McGee(22)/Bron(12)/Wagner(14) |
Only 25 mins for Kuz and LeBron playing 35 mins?
At Lebron's age he should be averaging 33 mins per, Kuz should be playing around 31. I expect Rondo to play a little more and Lance should only average around 10 mins per, bringing Hart up to 24.
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Epine
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm unsure whether McGee would play that much (22min). You also have Zubac. |
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LakerLogic
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Starters:
PG: Zo or Rondo, whoever is healthy
SG: Hart
SF: BI
PF: LBJ
C: McGee
Closing lineup:
PG: Zo or Rondo
SG: Hart
SF: BI
PF: Kuz
C: LBJ |
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#StayInYoLane
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Why are we slotting in more minutes for KCP than Hart? Magic already said Hart may start. We’ve done enough for KCP w the $$$$$$$ we don’t need to give him free playing time as well. He’s good but often boneheaded .. Hart can bring the same skills without the chucking |
Expecting kcp 2nd half of the season play to continue. He’s still getting better; only being 25. He deserves to be slotted more minutes for now.
Now that bron is here; we can see less drawn up plays for kcp, hopefully. |
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AFireInside619
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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My dream team is
BI-PG
Kuzma-PF
Lebron-C
Everyone else can do whatever. |
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Rivershow
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| #StayInYoLane wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Why are we slotting in more minutes for KCP than Hart? Magic already said Hart may start. We’ve done enough for KCP w the $$$$$$$ we don’t need to give him free playing time as well. He’s good but often boneheaded .. Hart can bring the same skills without the chucking |
Expecting kcp 2nd half of the season play to continue. He’s still getting better; only being 25. He deserves to be slotted more minutes for now.
Now that bron is here; we can see less drawn up plays for kcp, hopefully. |
KCP deserves minutes, no one is dipsuting that. But does he deserve more than Hart? I don't think so personally. Hart is turning into a real gem while you know what you are getting from KCP. Hart has the potential to turn into an amazing starter. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of posters are placing Wagner's minutes higher than Zubac's. I don't think so. I like Wagner a lot but I question whether he's going to be fully NBA ready for a while. Zubac, I think, will be this time around. Limited to mid-range and in, but there's still going to be a need for rim protection. If Wagner turns out of training camp ready for NBA minutes that would be tremendously good news for the Lakers, but I'm not holding my breath.
Hart - I'd love to see the Lakers give him starter minutes.
SVI - I can see 8 minutes of sharpshooter off the bench for him. He doesn't have the kind of weaknesses in SL that I expected to see as a rookie second round pick, he can score up high or down low, and he's quick and deadly from outside. I don't think he'll be regular rotation unless he hits shots at a torrid pace, but I think he can impact games. |
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jiplaker
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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How many shooters the lakers want? KCP, ball, james, kuzma, mykhailiuk, hart, stephenson, etc. They don't have big men (justo McGee and zubac), and lebron will have the ball, he wont play to much at PF. They need to trade for another PF o C
ball, kcp, ingram and lebron in same rotation? where's the defense?? |
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jiplaker
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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how much for beasley and harrell? 2 dolars, they save money and go
for kawhi en 2019, or they trade for kevin love now |
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jiplaker
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I look the lakers roster and they dont have a PF. Literally. |
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Super Mega Team
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| jiplaker wrote: | | I look the lakers roster and they dont have a PF. Literally. |
Kuzma is a natural 4.
LeBron played plenty of 4 last year. Wagner can play PF/C. Ingram has the length but not enough in his back pocket. He can play the 4 against lineups like the Warriors with Durant at the 4. |
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#StayInYoLane
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Rivershow wrote: | | #StayInYoLane wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Why are we slotting in more minutes for KCP than Hart? Magic already said Hart may start. We’ve done enough for KCP w the $$$$$$$ we don’t need to give him free playing time as well. He’s good but often boneheaded .. Hart can bring the same skills without the chucking |
Expecting kcp 2nd half of the season play to continue. He’s still getting better; only being 25. He deserves to be slotted more minutes for now.
Now that bron is here; we can see less drawn up plays for kcp, hopefully. |
KCP deserves minutes, no one is dipsuting that. But does he deserve more than Hart? I don't think so personally. Hart is turning into a real gem while you know what you are getting from KCP. Hart has the potential to turn into an amazing starter. |
Yeah I agree hart will be an amazing starter. His ability to drive and jump off either foot is nice. Just think with kcp great end to season and hes still improving as well should get more minutes for now. |
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#StayInYoLane
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| jiplaker wrote: | How many shooters the lakers want? KCP, ball, james, kuzma, mykhailiuk, hart, stephenson, etc. They don't have big men (justo McGee and zubac), and lebron will have the ball, he wont play to much at PF. They need to trade for another PF o C
ball, kcp, ingram and lebron in same rotation? where's the defense?? |
I agree with you saying we could use another bigman. But no way give awa Ingram to do so. |
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Super Mega Team
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| #StayInYoLane wrote: | | jiplaker wrote: | How many shooters the lakers want? KCP, ball, james, kuzma, mykhailiuk, hart, stephenson, etc. They don't have big men (justo McGee and zubac), and lebron will have the ball, he wont play to much at PF. They need to trade for another PF o C
ball, kcp, ingram and lebron in same rotation? where's the defense?? |
I agree with you saying we could use another bigman. But no way give awa Ingram to do so. |
Lance is not a shooter. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| #StayInYoLane wrote: | | jiplaker wrote: | How many shooters the lakers want? KCP, ball, james, kuzma, mykhailiuk, hart, stephenson, etc. They don't have big men (justo McGee and zubac), and lebron will have the ball, he wont play to much at PF. They need to trade for another PF o C
ball, kcp, ingram and lebron in same rotation? where's the defense?? |
I agree with you saying we could use another bigman. But no way give awa Ingram to do so. |
New to LG I see jiplaker. New to watching the Lakers? Ball, KCP, and Ingram were all important cogs in a very sound defense last year, approximately 11th best in the league in terms of defensive efficiency.
The only reason more people don't know this is because, for most of the season, Ball had this team playing at the fastest pace in the league. People see total points allowed and don't even think of pace sometimes.
This in spite of relying on 3 rookies and a second year player as major pieces of the core rotation. Hart was the other rookie and a very solid defender last year.
KCP was scrappy and held his own on D although I preferred to see Hart close games. Ingram is getting much better at using his length to be very disruptive on defense. Ball - most underappreciated defender in the NBA imo. Several of his defensive stats are top tier for any guard in the NBA, much less for for a rookie. But all that gets masked to casual fans of other teams because of missed shots and loud daddy.
Edit - gotta add - I agree with you that a sound defense is a pretty crucial element when it comes to who's playing center for the Lakers. It's not three point shooting at all costs imo. We do need rim protection. |
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jiplaker
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:20 am Post subject: |
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if lebron is going to play at PF, he's role must change a lot, he can't be the
lebron of cavs. In my opinión this roster has a very good offensive players
but i'm not convinced that has a really solid defense. I hope to be wrong |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:03 am Post subject: |
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You really don't have offensive positions anymore, just roles being filled by any variety of players. Facilitator/penetrator, spacer and finisher. Defensively you have to be able to matchup, both with your direct assignment and to a lesser, but still important degree, with any other player on the opposition (switching). Really strong defenses also have two guys that can deter at the rim.
I think we're going to have two facilitators on the floor at all times (from James, Lonzo, Rondo, Ingram, Lance) with a mix of spacers and finishers. Obviously someone like James can serve in all three role. Other guys have multi role capacity. People love to point out we're short on spacers and that is true. But at that cost we will have better playmaking meaning the shots will be good.
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markjay
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| OC Lakerfan wrote: | | jiplaker wrote: | | I look the lakers roster and they dont have a PF. Literally. |
Kuzma is a natural 4.
LeBron played plenty of 4 last year. Wagner can play PF/C. Ingram has the length but not enough in his back pocket. He can play the 4 against lineups like the Warriors with Durant at the 4. |
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Super Mega Team
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| markjay wrote: | | OC Lakerfan wrote: | | jiplaker wrote: | | I look the lakers roster and they dont have a PF. Literally. |
Kuzma is a natural 4.
LeBron played plenty of 4 last year. Wagner can play PF/C. Ingram has the length but not enough in his back pocket. He can play the 4 against lineups like the Warriors with Durant at the 4. |
Two words: LUOL DENG |
No. |
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Judah
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | | jiplaker wrote: | PG--ball---rondo---caruso
SG--caldwell---hart---andre ingram
SF--james---stephenson---mykhailiuk
PF--beasley---kuzma---harrell
C---mcgee---zubac---wagner
IN: beasley (knicks) -- 13 pts ,5 rbs last year
harrell (clippers) -- 11 pts ,4 rbs last year
OUT: brandon ingram
luol deng
Isaac bonga
malik newman |
You wanna get rid of Ingram for Beasley and Harrell? Is everything ok bro? |
Right? Can't make this stuff up, man.
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