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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:14 am Post subject: |
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LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pau Gasol's Beard wrote: | Zubac would've been a much better option than McGee. Thanks Magic |
Eh. Not at 7m. Bryant? Yes. |
Zu at 7m would have been way more valuable, especially when all you should really consider is his cap-hold.
Zu is a trade asset. McGee is not. |
I just think teams value Bryant's value as a center in today's NBA more than Zub's. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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markjay Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:43 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pau Gasol's Beard wrote: | Zubac would've been a much better option than McGee. Thanks Magic |
Eh. Not at 7m. Bryant? Yes. |
Zu at 7m would have been way more valuable, especially when all you should really consider is his cap-hold.
Zu is a trade asset. McGee is not. |
I just think teams value Bryant's value as a center in today's NBA more than Zub's. |
Zubac is shooting in his career at a better percentage than Bryant at the free throw line, from 10-16 feet, and from 16 feet to the 3 point line. And Bryant's career 3pt% is only .309 (.286 this season). Yes, Bryant throws up more 3 pointers than Zubac, but he doesn't hit many of them. And I have a feeling Zu could probably hit as many if asked to take them.
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:54 am Post subject: |
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markjay wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pau Gasol's Beard wrote: | Zubac would've been a much better option than McGee. Thanks Magic |
Eh. Not at 7m. Bryant? Yes. |
Zu at 7m would have been way more valuable, especially when all you should really consider is his cap-hold.
Zu is a trade asset. McGee is not. |
I just think teams value Bryant's value as a center in today's NBA more than Zub's. |
Zubac is shooting in his career at a better percentage than Bryant at the free throw line, from 10-16 feet, and from 16 feet to the 3 point line. And Bryant's career 3pt% is only .309 (.286 this season). Yes, Bryant throws up more 3 pointers than Zubac, but he doesn't his many of them. And I have a feeling Zu could probably hit as many if asked to take them. |
Sure. But it's a gravity thing. He still pulls a center out of the paint. Zub? Not so much. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Wolverine Star Player
Joined: 21 Mar 2004 Posts: 7846 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:38 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | I just think teams value Bryant's value as a center in today's NBA more than Zub's. |
If we kept either of them, they would now be in New Orleans (AD trade). |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:52 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | markjay wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pau Gasol's Beard wrote: | Zubac would've been a much better option than McGee. Thanks Magic |
Eh. Not at 7m. Bryant? Yes. |
Zu at 7m would have been way more valuable, especially when all you should really consider is his cap-hold.
Zu is a trade asset. McGee is not. |
I just think teams value Bryant's value as a center in today's NBA more than Zub's. |
Zubac is shooting in his career at a better percentage than Bryant at the free throw line, from 10-16 feet, and from 16 feet to the 3 point line. And Bryant's career 3pt% is only .309 (.286 this season). Yes, Bryant throws up more 3 pointers than Zubac, but he doesn't his many of them. And I have a feeling Zu could probably hit as many if asked to take them. |
Sure. But it's a gravity thing. He still pulls a center out of the paint. Zub? Not so much. |
I don't get to watch much wiz games.
Yesterday, TB seemed to be around the paint more than on the perimeter.
Do you know how often he utilizes his perimeter gravity? |
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LakerMindLA Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pau Gasol's Beard wrote: | Zubac would've been a much better option than McGee. Thanks Magic |
Eh. Not at 7m. Bryant? Yes. |
Zu at 7m would have been way more valuable, especially when all you should really consider is his cap-hold.
Zu is a trade asset. McGee is not. |
I just think teams value Bryant's value as a center in today's NBA more than Zub's. |
Any young team that isn’t competing for a championship would have interest in Zubac and Bryant.
Memphis would never trade Iggy for MCGee. They might trade him for a package built around Zubac.
Zubac doesn’t bring any baggage and still is improving. |
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drae Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pau Gasol's Beard wrote: | Zubac would've been a much better option than McGee. Thanks Magic |
Eh. Not at 7m. Bryant? Yes. |
Zu at 7m would have been way more valuable, especially when all you should really consider is his cap-hold.
Zu is a trade asset. McGee is not. |
I just think teams value Bryant's value as a center in today's NBA more than Zub's. |
Any young team that isn’t competing for a championship would have interest in Zubac and Bryant.
Memphis would never trade Iggy for MCGee. They might trade him for a package built around Zubac.
Zubac doesn’t bring any baggage and still is improving. |
At 17m the Clippers would have to give up Zubac AND someone like Beverley or Williams. And for someone who'd be a bench player playing limited minutes, that may very well end up a net loss. |
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PlantedTanks Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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drae wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pau Gasol's Beard wrote: | Zubac would've been a much better option than McGee. Thanks Magic |
Eh. Not at 7m. Bryant? Yes. |
Zu at 7m would have been way more valuable, especially when all you should really consider is his cap-hold.
Zu is a trade asset. McGee is not. |
I just think teams value Bryant's value as a center in today's NBA more than Zub's. |
Any young team that isn’t competing for a championship would have interest in Zubac and Bryant.
Memphis would never trade Iggy for MCGee. They might trade him for a package built around Zubac.
Zubac doesn’t bring any baggage and still is improving. |
At 17m the Clippers would have to give up Zubac AND someone like Beverley or Williams. And for someone who'd be a bench player playing limited minutes, that may very well end up a net loss. |
Harkless + 1 or 2 of Robinson and Kabengele. If LAC gives up Zubac they have very little front court size. |
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
Joined: 08 Oct 2001 Posts: 18448
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I wish we could have kept Brook Lopez. He would have given us a Disneyland discount too, |
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Laker_Dynasty_01 Star Player
Joined: 06 Jun 2001 Posts: 1703
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | markjay wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | LakerMindLA wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pau Gasol's Beard wrote: | Zubac would've been a much better option than McGee. Thanks Magic |
Eh. Not at 7m. Bryant? Yes. |
Zu at 7m would have been way more valuable, especially when all you should really consider is his cap-hold.
Zu is a trade asset. McGee is not. |
I just think teams value Bryant's value as a center in today's NBA more than Zub's. |
Zubac is shooting in his career at a better percentage than Bryant at the free throw line, from 10-16 feet, and from 16 feet to the 3 point line. And Bryant's career 3pt% is only .309 (.286 this season). Yes, Bryant throws up more 3 pointers than Zubac, but he doesn't his many of them. And I have a feeling Zu could probably hit as many if asked to take them. |
Sure. But it's a gravity thing. He still pulls a center out of the paint. Zub? Not so much. |
He can bring a center out of the paint on a closeout, but If I'm the opposing coach, I still help off him (or a guy like Dedmon) if a John Wall or Beal is going to the hole. Make him attack the closeout or let him shoot, until he starts shooting over 40% consistently on a high volume. |
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cannga11 Starting Rotation
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 347 Location: Palos Verdes
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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NOT.
starter.
material.
I do not know what's going on in his head, but it doesn't seem to be smart or good basketball. When is coach going to bench him? |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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He’s been a disaster so far. He’s about to lose his spot in the rotation if he doesn’t figure something out, and soon. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Mcgee needs to stop playing high |
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Serenityy Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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He is without a doubt one of the reasons we get off to slow starts.
We may have to live with this scenario though. Not sure if we can start AD at the 5 and Dwight seems better fit for his role off the bench. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Got paid and got lazy |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Does he have any trade value? Boston needs a big. |
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LaLaLakeShow Star Player
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AllorNothing wrote: | I wish we could have kept Brook Lopez. He would have given us a Disneyland discount too, |
I never understood that one |
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LaLaLakeShow Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | Mcgee needs to stop playing high |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Had a rough week.
But glad Lakers still won the last 4.
I still think he's going to be valuable.
Lakers might actually just use him like GS did. Where he starts the 1st and 3rd. |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | Does he have any trade value? Boston needs a big. |
He has trade veto, a safety net option year, and plays for a title contending team in LA. He’s not going anywhere. Plus, we need big man injury insurance. |
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drae Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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12 minutes today
Played okay in the 3rd but my God, his first quarter performances ... |
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LakerMindLA Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | Got paid and got lazy |
Always been trash. Just got to play some meaningless basketball last year and put up good stats. |
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lakers4life78 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Guys like him and kcp are just losing type guys. So low IQ
McGee is like a 10-15 min player on a good team. _________________ 17 time World Champions |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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lakers4life78 wrote: | Guys like him and kcp are just losing type guys. So low IQ
McGee is like a 10-15 min player on a good team. |
So he's in the exact perfect situation for him |
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Joe Pesci Star Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Laker's Fan wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | Does he have any trade value? Boston needs a big. |
He has trade veto, a safety net option year, and plays for a title contending team in LA. He’s not going anywhere. Plus, we need big man injury insurance. |
I generally agree, but what if he were benched out of the rotation entirely?
Do you think he'd be open to a trade that would buy him out and allow him to go to a contending team that will actually play him significant minutes?
He'll never leave now, when he's the starting center for the Los Angeles Lakers, but if he is left to vegitate at the very end of the bench, I think he just might be open to going somewhere else where he could actually get minutes.
I could be wrong, but these guys want to play in games. It's a shot to their egos to get DNP-CDs. _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter. |
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