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Baron Von Humongous
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The best defense he played tonight was smacking Kyrie in the face in the first minute.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| Not worried about Rondo (or AB) this season. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| RI Laker wrote: | | Not worried about Rondo (or AB) this season. |
Famous last words.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | Not worried about Rondo (or AB) this season. |
Famous last words. |
Well hopefully you have to eat crow. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| RI Laker wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | Not worried about Rondo (or AB) this season. |
Famous last words. |
Well hopefully you have to eat crow. |
Hopefully, though have you eaten crow on Magic's disruptive incompetence as a front office executive yet?
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What? Why are people supposed to eat crow?
Rondo still mucks up the spacing for AD/LBJ. Watch post possessions of AD and see whose defender is doubling down.
Hint. His name rhymes with Hondo.
In any case, if Rondo has to play rotation minutes, it should NEVER be with LBJ. That duo does not work IMO (and it's not LBJ's fault).
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Rational people who make judgements after two exhibition games (ie AB and whether he should be in the rotation) sometimes need a spoonful. |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | Rational people who make judgements after two exhibition games (ie AB and whether he should be in the rotation) sometimes need a spoonful. |
Aren't you making judgments about Rondo though?
The spacing issues will always be there. Teams are letting him shoot and doubling down on AD/LBJ.
That's why you need to let him play a PnR game with AD when LBJ is not on the floor.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | Rational people who make judgements after two exhibition games (ie AB and whether he should be in the rotation) sometimes need a spoonful. |
We have more than a two-preseason game sample of Rondo in a Laker uniform and an entire career of spacing issues. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | Rational people who make judgements after two exhibition games (ie AB and whether he should be in the rotation) sometimes need a spoonful. |
We have more than a two-preseason game sample of Rondo in a Laker uniform and an entire career of spacing issues. |
Right. We know what he can and can't do.
PnR operator. Fine.
Defender (now), absolutely not.
Floor spacer? Nope.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | Rational people who make judgements after two exhibition games (ie AB and whether he should be in the rotation) sometimes need a spoonful. |
We have more than a two-preseason game sample of Rondo in a Laker uniform and an entire career of spacing issues. |
Right. We know what he can and can't do.
PnR operator. Fine.
Defender (now), absolutely not.
Floor spacer? Nope. |
Which is why I said I am not worried about him (we all know what he is). Frank will put him in a position to be successful. He will be a calming veteran presence when needed. More importantly, his game will come in handy when we need to rest LJ (because our lack of distributors). I was more focused on someone questioning whether AB should be in the rotation after 2 exhibition games. If AB fails us (I do not think he will), we could be in trouble. |
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Yeah we need AB to become at least an average level player, which is looking tough at this point.
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Baron Von Humongous
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| RI Laker wrote: | | Rational people who make judgements after two exhibition games (ie AB and whether he should be in the rotation) sometimes need a spoonful. |
If AB doesn't play better, he won't be in the rotation ≠ AB shouldn't be in the rotation after only two preseason games.
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If Rondo continues to play like this, he deserves some rotation minutes. If he doesn't we have plenty of other options.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | The best defense he played tonight was smacking Kyrie in the face in the first minute. |
Lol yeah. I'm thinking it was on purpose.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
Based solely on these two games, Avery Bradley is the one who should be out of the rotation. |
Start AC Fresh over all these guys. 
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | If Rondo continues to play like this, he deserves some rotation minutes. If he doesn't we have plenty of other options. |
Continues....to create poor spacing?
Rondo is not gonna shoot 2 for 5 from 3 all season. He will have more ohfers or nofers and teams will dare him to shoot them all season and for the most part be rewarded. The value of the three in this NBA is not occasionally making them, it's in consistently making the defense treat you as a threat. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | If Rondo continues to play like this, he deserves some rotation minutes. If he doesn't we have plenty of other options. |
Continues....to create poor spacing?
Rondo is not gonna shoot 2 for 5 from 3 all season. He will have more ohfers or nofers and teams will dare him to shoot them all season and for the most part be rewarded. The value of the three in this NBA is not occasionally making them, it's in consistently making the defense treat you as a threat. |
Why do people keep saying rondo cant shoot, obv hes not curry but if you look at last 4years hes over 35% combined which is the league average. This is not the rondo from celtics days when kobe would leave him wide open.
edit: I obv dont want him playing a lot either but its because hes no longer a good defender. |
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| dj1337 wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | If Rondo continues to play like this, he deserves some rotation minutes. If he doesn't we have plenty of other options. |
Continues....to create poor spacing?
Rondo is not gonna shoot 2 for 5 from 3 all season. He will have more ohfers or nofers and teams will dare him to shoot them all season and for the most part be rewarded. The value of the three in this NBA is not occasionally making them, it's in consistently making the defense treat you as a threat. |
Why do people keep saying rondo cant shoot, obv hes not curry but if you look at last 4years hes over 35% combined which is the league average. This is not the rondo from celtics days when kobe would leave him wide open.
edit: I obv dont want him playing a lot either but its because hes no longer a good defender. |
Agreed; his shooting has improved; unfortunately his defense is still below average. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | If Rondo continues to play like this, he deserves some rotation minutes. If he doesn't we have plenty of other options. |
Continues....to create poor spacing?
Rondo is not gonna shoot 2 for 5 from 3 all season. He will have more ohfers or nofers and teams will dare him to shoot them all season and for the most part be rewarded. The value of the three in this NBA is not occasionally making them, it's in consistently making the defense treat you as a threat. |
When he starts hurting the team with his play. I’ll agree. Till then play him. You don’t punish players if they’re playing well and the team is playing well with him on the floor.
Teams are cheating off of him, and right now he’s making them pay for it.
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It’s not about 3%. It’s about the gravity he creates (or doesn’t). His man routinely doubles the post guys.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | It’s not about 3%. It’s about the gravity he creates (or doesn’t). His man routinely doubles the post guys. |
And in response he’s shooting well. Scoring off a double team is good for the team.
If/when he regresses. Pull him.
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It's not like I'm pro-Rondo even if he hurts the team. And my thoughts aren't Rondo specific. I'm down to play even... Dudley if he is balling out. And I'm down to bench anybody not named LBJ and Brow if they're playing bad.
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| kikanga wrote: | | It's not like I'm pro-Rondo even if he hurts the team. And my thoughts aren't Rondo specific. I'm down to play even... Dudley if he is balling out. And I'm down to bench anybody not named LBJ and Brow if they're playing bad. |
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| kikanga wrote: | | It's not like I'm pro-Rondo even if he hurts the team. And my thoughts aren't Rondo specific. I'm down to play even... Dudley if he is balling out. And I'm down to bench anybody not named LBJ and Brow if they're playing bad. |
The argument is that every shot Rondo takes without either one or both of Lebron and AD touching the ball first is a win for the opposition. Jared Dudley isn't going to dribble the ball up and initiate the offense with Lebron on the floor. But it is nice if Rondo can at least be a functional shooter when left wide open because the Lakers don't really have many other options.
I'm wondering if any NBA team has a worse PG rotation than the Lakers this season.
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