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Sentient Meat
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| Shaqman55 wrote: | | crazylakerfan001 wrote: |
The funny part is Rondo/Lebron/Dwight is a quasi super team in 2011. |
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No one's talking about a superteam... it's beating a superteam with depth
Ball/Rondo vs. Curry
KCP/Hart vs. Klay
Ingram/Svi vs. KD
LBJ/Kuzma vs. Draymond
Dwight/McGee vs. Boogie
Our two man rotations wear out the super team.
If we were one deep... they'd win.
With our depth we wear them out.
How can you not see this?
We have a legit chance to win the title with Dwight because we are deep.
They are capped out so they will have Livingston/Iggy and minimum deals. |
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ChefLinda
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | Yep... people forgive Kobe for not shooting in a game 7 because he was annoyed with the press... not even mentioning his off court issues.
They forget Chamberlain faked an injury when the Lakers fell behind the Celtics in game 7... and then tried to go back in when the game got close again...
It doesn't bother them either that Kawhi refused to play in an entire playoffs because he felt disrespected
But somehow Dwight is the evil that cannot be signed?
Either disavow Kobe, Chamberlain, and Kawhi... or get off the high horse.
We need defense and rebounds... we should have got Boogie but we didn't... so now we need to sign Dwight.
Unless all you want is a nice trouble free season with less stress... then sign Brook.
If you want to compete for the title... you sign Dwight.
We couldn't afford Capela... Julius wanted more than we could give... we must feel that void of defense and rebounds.
Again... read the NBA history books if you think Dwight is so much worse than some of the jerseys on our walls. |
 You're comparing a couple of out-of-character actions of 2 HOF top-10 players of all time to Dwight's career-long shenanigans, but the rest of us are on a high horse?!?!? |
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supermegamen
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | Shaqman55 wrote: | | crazylakerfan001 wrote: |
The funny part is Rondo/Lebron/Dwight is a quasi super team in 2011. |
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No one's talking about a superteam... it's beating a superteam with depth
Ball/Rondo vs. Curry
KCP/Hart vs. Klay
Ingram/Svi vs. KD
LBJ/Kuzma vs. Draymond
Dwight/McGee vs. Boogie
Our two man rotations wear out the super team.
If we were one deep... they'd win.
With our depth we wear them out.
How can you not see this?
We have a legit chance to win the title with Dwight because we are deep.
They are capped out so they will have Livingston/Iggy and minimum deals. |
Hate to say it and Kobe will probably die if we're actually doing this, but adding Dwight on a one-year deal might be the way to go if we want to seriously content this year. He just fits our D scheme for this season.
I hate that guy af, but from a basketball standpoint he'd probably be the one thing we need. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice...and let's call it the suicide squad!
The Warriors have such a ridiculously stacked roster that beating them in the finals seems unlikely for anyone. Who else can we legitimately sign that will make us a real competitor to the Warriors this year? Is there anyone? It's all or nothing. |
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Sentient Meat
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | Yep... people forgive Kobe for not shooting in a game 7 because he was annoyed with the press... not even mentioning his off court issues.
They forget Chamberlain faked an injury when the Lakers fell behind the Celtics in game 7... and then tried to go back in when the game got close again...
It doesn't bother them either that Kawhi refused to play in an entire playoffs because he felt disrespected
But somehow Dwight is the evil that cannot be signed?
Either disavow Kobe, Chamberlain, and Kawhi... or get off the high horse.
We need defense and rebounds... we should have got Boogie but we didn't... so now we need to sign Dwight.
Unless all you want is a nice trouble free season with less stress... then sign Brook.
If you want to compete for the title... you sign Dwight.
We couldn't afford Capela... Julius wanted more than we could give... we must feel that void of defense and rebounds.
Again... read the NBA history books if you think Dwight is so much worse than some of the jerseys on our walls. |
You're comparing a couple of out-of-character actions of 2 HOF top-10 players of all time to Dwight's career-long shenanigans, but the rest of us are on a high horse?!?!? |
Difference here is that we are not asking him to be a team leader... we are asking him to be a one year role player to neutralize Boogie until we can sign him ourselves or until Kawhi comes.
It's good strategy.
I'm not here to besmirch our rose colored memories of our players
I'm only pointing it out to say that Dwight's actions are not the end of the world.
I've fully admitted he can be a pain in the ass... but he's like Richard Gere in an Officer and a Gentleman right now
He's got nowhere else to go...
If he plays well, he saves his legacy... if he doesn't he permanently ruins it forever.
Pretty good reason for him to try hard... and we only need to deal with it for a year. |
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This thread pisses me off!
That several pages have been spent even considering Howard is disappointing.
Some fans either with really short memories or not old enough to drink yet. Completely ignoring Howard's long history of being a delusional chemistry killer and will suddenly have this career epiphany and fall in line is kind of comical. Relying on stats as the indicator instead of his track record of being an idiot.
But what pisses me off is the Lakers had the physical "dirty work" guy on the roster that signed for well below what many expected due to the market this season. And the FO was so distracted they let him go for nothing.
It is water under the bridge but this discussion of needing a physical presence in the paint is such a stark reminder of what was squandered. |
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ChickenBeckerman
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| This conversation is BANANAS!!!! |
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Bol
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | Yep... people forgive Kobe for not shooting in a game 7 because he was annoyed with the press... not even mentioning his off court issues. |
When was this? |
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I thought Dwight had a really good season last year
He was all star level or close
However since I don’t think adding him will result in us moving ahead of Houston or State, the risk in adding him are not worth it.
Factor we already have head cases in Lance and Rajon, a young team, no way. This comes from someone who thinks Dwight has had a very good career and is a HOF Center. |
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Sentient Meat
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Return2greatness
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| What winning team has brolo ever been on lol you all are crazy. Dwight would be the best option for this team that is left. Brolo does not rebound and my goodness last year there were stretches he was just chucking 3s. I am not a fan of Dwight but he is so much better then brolo it is not funny. Get over the past, it’s a business not freaking kumbaya. It is really a no risk move. If he is acting stupid, cut him. That’s it |
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Bol
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Link doesn't work for me. But a blog on travelgolf.com doesn't seem like a great source. |
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hoopschick29
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:11 am Post subject: |
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That's your source.
Some Travel Golf Blogger.
Really... 
I'd laugh, but it would be wasting a good chuckle.
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Sentient Meat
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | This thread pisses me off!
That several pages have been spent even considering Howard is disappointing.
Some fans either with really short memories or not old enough to drink yet. Completely ignoring Howard's long history of being a delusional chemistry killer and will suddenly have this career epiphany and fall in line is kind of comical. Relying on stats as the indicator instead of his track record of being an idiot.
But what pisses me off is the Lakers had the physical "dirty work" guy on the roster that signed for well below what many expected due to the market this season. And the FO was so distracted they let him go for nothing.
It is water under the bridge but this discussion of needing a physical presence in the paint is such a stark reminder of what was squandered. |
If we get Brook... I'll still enjoy the season... love our young core... love our two new rookies who I watched last night.
And I like Brook as a person... seems like a great guy.
I'll love seeing what LBJ and Rondo combined with a better version of Lonzo do with the team.
I think they will do great with or without Dwight.
But when it comes to that last piece of the puzzle... the thing we are lacking to win the title. Sadly for us, that missing piece is now defense and rebounding.
Dwight is superior in that respect.
I'm going to enjoy myself either way... but if I take emotion out of the equation... I'm trying to beat GSW... I use Dwight to neutralize Draymond and Boogie... not Brook.
I bet if you were playing a videogame you'd use him too.
Yes, I get that life isn't a video game... but Brook cannot deal with that Warriors front line.
But if we get Brook... the sentimental side of me will be happy. |
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srm90
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | I thought Dwight had a really good season last year
He was all star level or close
However since I don’t think adding him will result in us moving ahead of Houston or State, the risk in adding him are not worth it.
Factor we already have head cases in Lance and Rajon, a young team, no way. This comes from someone who thinks Dwight has had a very good career and is a HOF Center. |
I don't see what the risk is. You give him vets min. Have LeBron keep an eye on him along with Luke. Let him know upfront what his role is. The second he acts up in any way, shape or form, cut him.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | Yep... people forgive Kobe for not shooting in a game 7 because he was annoyed with the press... not even mentioning his off court issues.
They forget Chamberlain faked an injury when the Lakers fell behind the Celtics in game 7... and then tried to go back in when the game got close again...
It doesn't bother them either that Kawhi refused to play in an entire playoffs because he felt disrespected
But somehow Dwight is the evil that cannot be signed?
Either disavow Kobe, Chamberlain, and Kawhi... or get off the high horse.
We need defense and rebounds... we should have got Boogie but we didn't... so now we need to sign Dwight.
Unless all you want is a nice trouble free season with less stress... then sign Brook.
If you want to compete for the title... you sign Dwight.
We couldn't afford Capela... Julius wanted more than we could give... we must feel that void of defense and rebounds.
Again... read the NBA history books if you think Dwight is so much worse than some of the jerseys on our walls. |
Kawhi didn't play in the Playoffs because he didn't feel ready due to his injury. Kobe didn't shoot because Phil subliminally blamed him for their loss, saying he doesn't pass enough, so he passed. If you want Dwight, that's fine, but don't create a false narrative to support what you would like. |
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#StayAwayD12
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:18 am Post subject: |
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'Refused to shoot in playoffs'
Just the title alone eliminates ANY credibility.
In order to have watched the 'freaking game' yourself, you would've had to opened your good eye. That clearly didn't happen.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| JamezAmp wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | Well, with the loss of Randle, we need a tough guy bruiser type to complement Kuzma. Dwight would fit that bill. So yeah, I guess I would take him. |
Tough guy???
This clown is a soft ass (bleep) |
For those who don't belive, take Kobe's word
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Sentient Meat
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| Outspoken wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | Yep... people forgive Kobe for not shooting in a game 7 because he was annoyed with the press... not even mentioning his off court issues.
They forget Chamberlain faked an injury when the Lakers fell behind the Celtics in game 7... and then tried to go back in when the game got close again...
It doesn't bother them either that Kawhi refused to play in an entire playoffs because he felt disrespected
But somehow Dwight is the evil that cannot be signed?
Either disavow Kobe, Chamberlain, and Kawhi... or get off the high horse.
We need defense and rebounds... we should have got Boogie but we didn't... so now we need to sign Dwight.
Unless all you want is a nice trouble free season with less stress... then sign Brook.
If you want to compete for the title... you sign Dwight.
We couldn't afford Capela... Julius wanted more than we could give... we must feel that void of defense and rebounds.
Again... read the NBA history books if you think Dwight is so much worse than some of the jerseys on our walls. |
Kawhi didn't play in the Playoffs because he didn't feel ready due to his injury. Kobe didn't shoot because Phil subliminally blamed him for their loss, saying he doesn't pass enough, so he passed. If you want Dwight, that's fine, but don't create a false narrative to support what you would like. |
Either he was legitimately hurt for a year, in which case we should be worried about his health... or he was hurt for part of the time and then annoyed with the front office... in which case we are not so worried about his health.
Which is it?
Because from what I can see... no one is worried about his health... including Kawhi himself who isn't really worried about financial security right now.
Kobe being annoyed with the press and Phil is no excuse... just like it was no excuse for Rondo to pout with Carlisle.
My point is only that the league is filled with glass houses. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Brook Lopez on this squad is basically a taller Kevin Love without the rebounds. How did that work for Lebron in Cleveland?
Sign Howard he has something to prove.
People wanted headcase Cousins coming off an Achilles on the Lakers but no to "headcase" immature dwight howard who played his best in about 3-4 seasons on a really bad charlotte team. It was not even a contract year. You did not hear any problems and the charlotte situation could have frustrated anyone. He was quite professional there.
Also he was around Michael Jordan. Maybe MJ rubbed off on him and changed his professional perspective
No body from the Dwightmare days are still here except Jeanie Buss. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | I thought Dwight had a really good season last year
He was all star level or close
However since I don’t think adding him will result in us moving ahead of Houston or State, the risk in adding him are not worth it.
Factor we already have head cases in Lance and Rajon, a young team, no way. This comes from someone who thinks Dwight has had a very good career and is a HOF Center. |
Very much my view point too. I might lean a bit towards him due to feeling like we just "MIGHT", just might be able to get by the Warriors and Rockets.... |
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Sentient Meat
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| hoopschick29 wrote: |
'Refused to shoot in playoffs'
Just the title alone eliminates ANY credibility.
In order to have watched the 'freaking game' yourself, you would've had to opened your good eye. That clearly didn't happen. |
How about NBA.com? That credible enough for you?
http://www.nba.com/games/20060506/LALPHX/recap.html |
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | #Stay
(no, really, Dwight. Wherever you are, just stay there) |
Where is Jeanie Buss when need her? LOL |
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