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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject:

Ingram is a tricky one, so many directions his game could lead too. I'd love if he were something like LeBron lite in terms of playmaking and rim attacking.

Lonzo is the guard version of Draymond Green.

Hart is Gary Harris like someone already said.

Kuzma is Kevin Love with less rebounds and bigger balls (and hopefully better D).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject:

Kuzma - leaner Kevin Love with Mamba mentality

Ingram - lankier more assertive scoring Lamar Odom

Ball - more upside Rajon Rondo who hopefully can get his 3 pointer back

Hart - could definitely see Gary Harris
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:34 pm    Post subject:

Ball-Kidd
Ingram-Pippen
Hart-Wesley Matthews (before achilles)
Kuzma- Chandler Parsons (before injuries)

Thats about as close as I can get.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:52 pm    Post subject:

Ingram - Less athletic (but longer) T-Mac or Pippen
Ball - Jason Kidd
Kuzma - Jamaal Wilkes
Hart - Tony Allen with offense
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:04 pm    Post subject:

Ball - Diet Cherry Lebron
Ingram - Scottie 2.0
Kuzma - Olympic Melo
Hart - If Fisher & Starks had a baby


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:14 pm    Post subject:

Might as well throw in Wagner’s and Svi’s ceilings as well

Wagner- Dirk
Svi- Peja
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: NBA ceilings of Ingram, Ball, Kuzma, Hart

nomoreshaq wrote:

Kuzma - drawing a blank here...



Antwan Jamison/Rashard Lewis/Robert Horry
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject:

I'm highest on Ingram's potential. I see him as a Scottie Pippen type player who hopefully becomes an elite defender like Pippen. But he's so quiet that it's hard to tell how much of an appetite he has to be a big scorer or how great he really wants to be.

It's hard to think of a player comp for Kuzma, but he could become a 22-25 pts a game guy at his best who's also a closer. Every Lebron James team needs a closer, and he has the potential to be that for us.

As others said Ball could be like Jason Kidd.

I hope Hart models his game after Michael Cooper. He should watch those old reel to reel films of him and really work on his defense.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:16 pm    Post subject:

Potential ceiling (realistic ceiling) for:

Ingram - Tracy McGrady (Shane Battier)
Ball - Jason Kidd (Nate McMillan)
Kuzma - Detlef Schrempf (Peja Stojakovic)
Hart - Bryon Russell (Arron Afflalo)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:17 pm    Post subject:

BI - Paul George
Zo - J.Kidd type with a J
Kuz - Gallo healthy
Hart - Brad Beal lite with defense
Wagner - Kevin Love lite with better playmaking
Svi - Allen Crabbe when he was good
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:33 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo -- Kidd
Ingram -- Grant Hill
Kuz -- Carmelo
Hart -- Dennis Johnson

Svi -- Michael Jordan
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:36 pm    Post subject:

Code:
NAME          HIGH COMP          MID COMP           LOW COMP
Ingram        Kawhi Leonard      Luol Deng          Rudy Gay
Ball          Jason Kidd         Rajon Rondo        Shaun Livingston
Kuz           Glenn Robinson     Danilo Gallinari   Robert Horry
Hart          Wes Matthews       Courtney Lee       Derick Fisher
Wagner        Mehmet Okur        Ryan Anderson      Matt Bonner
Svi           Peja Stojakovic    JJ Redick          Jim Paxson     

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:44 pm    Post subject:

LakerSanity wrote:
Code:
NAME          HIGH COMP          MID COMP           LOW COMP
Ingram        Kawhi Leonard      Luol Deng          Rudy Gay
Ball          Jason Kidd         Rajon Rondo        Shaun Livingston
Kuz           Glenn Robinson     Danilo Gallinari   Hedo Turkoglu
Hart          Wes Matthews       Courtney Lee       Derick Fisher
Wagner        Mehmet Okur        Ryan Anderson      Matt Bonner
Svi           Peja Stojakovic    JJ Redick          Jim Paxson     


So you're saying Svi's floor will not be Vujacic. That's a relief.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject:

Ball - Brian Shaw - after Ball improves his shot
Ingram - Ceballos - Eddie Jones Hybrid
Hart - Rick Fox
Kuzma - Horry
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:19 pm    Post subject:

Flashback wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Flashback wrote:
Dlo - 0 assist PG, and no basketball IQ
Clarkson - no Bb IQ, personal stats priority instead of team
Randle - good hustle guy, nothing special
Nance - good defence player


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Hart - Ron Harper
Kuzma - Something between Glen Rice, Lamar Odom and Kobe Bryant
Ingram - dunno, lets go for KD as ppl say
Ball - Magic


why the need to crap on our old players? lol


Coz i got some vibes from this thread like loosing DLO and Clarkson was was an issue :/


DLo will end up the best player imo out of every lottery pick during the past half a decade. (unless he becomes injury prone)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:28 pm    Post subject:

kawhileonard wrote:
Flashback wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Flashback wrote:
Dlo - 0 assist PG, and no basketball IQ
Clarkson - no Bb IQ, personal stats priority instead of team
Randle - good hustle guy, nothing special
Nance - good defence player


Back to the thread:

Hart - Ron Harper
Kuzma - Something between Glen Rice, Lamar Odom and Kobe Bryant
Ingram - dunno, lets go for KD as ppl say
Ball - Magic


why the need to crap on our old players? lol


Coz i got some vibes from this thread like loosing DLO and Clarkson was was an issue :/


DLo will end up the best player imo out of every lottery pick during the past half a decade. (unless he becomes injury prone)


Nah. He’s overrated.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:42 pm    Post subject:

PostMalone24 wrote:
Really Kuzma has a ceiling of Larry bird??


I think he meant "floor"
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
PostMalone24 wrote:
Really Kuzma has a ceiling of Larry bird??


I think he meant "floor"


then I'd like to know what his ceiling is
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
PostMalone24 wrote:
Really Kuzma has a ceiling of Larry bird??


I think he meant "floor"


As in he will have back injuries and being laying on the floor?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:11 pm    Post subject:

Johnny Cage wrote:
They're all going to be great players. My only concern is how we're going to afford to re-sign them all in 2-3 years with Lebron and another Max player next Summer.

I think we'll definitely have to let one or two of BI, Zo, or Kuz go once their Rookie contracts are up. But until then, it's gonna be fuuuuun. And I think we win at least one ring.


Lebron is going to move on to play with his son before he retires so that will open up a max slot.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:19 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo - top-5
Ingram - top-15
Kuzma - top-25
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:22 am    Post subject:

Ingram-toni kukoc mixed with tayshaun prince
Ball- a passive Jason kidd
Kuzma -Bernard king
Hart-a less athletic Alvin Robertson
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:39 am    Post subject:

Lakers only comp:

Ingram - Odom on steroids
Ball - 75% Magic
Kuzma - Jamaal Wilkes
Hart - Byron Scott
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:41 am    Post subject:

Bol wrote:

Svi -- Michael Jordan


True
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:44 am    Post subject:

Ingram - Leonard
Ball - Kidd/Stockton/Rondo
Kuzma - Toni Kukoc/Antoine Walker (but beter than both)
Hart - Drexler (less scoring, better 3 pt)
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