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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:24 pm    Post subject:

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KCP is not trash

Randle was not and is not 10X better

Which players are 10x better than KCP?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:30 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Randle didn't fire Mintz and sign with Klutch.

If this is true and not sarcasm then it's a sad day for us fans.
If randle stuck by his agent, I respect him even more.

I'm still looking forward to the season but basically what every one is
saying is that
1. Loosing randle and keeping PcP is a package deal.
2. Or that he wanted a longer commitment which was not possible.
3. save space for LeBron partner.
4. JR didn't want to play with LeBron.

The third one makes sense. Even I want this.

I just have a simple question for the management. Randle showed
glimpses of someone who will have a really great career in the Nba.
Why did we treat him like this?

At the end of last year, I very much bought into JR as our alpha player.
we had a good established pecking order.
Guys were having a good year around randle's hustle.
I find it funny that people think jr was a defensive liability when
he stood up to almost every big in the nba one by one.
JR deserved a 4 yr 40 mill contract.
There is something stupid about just letting your hardest
worker walk. Whats more stupid is that this keeps happening
to us over and over again.
I think ball and kuzma will miss him even when they have LeBron.
I also think JR was a good role model for the other guys.

now this team is full of pseudo alphas and artest like lunatics without that mwp skill.

All our players saw what JR did and he still got shipped.

To please a decling diva superstar NonAlpha.
All to make room for a 12mil/yr d-leager.
Then added nutcase fists of spitting fury rondo.
a incresingly unstable looking Brandon Ingram.
and LANCE

Can anyone explain why it was so hard to give
randle like 3 yr 30 mill. Did a agent politics cost us randle and guys like artest.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:48 pm    Post subject:

KCP is not trash....he will come up big a few times this season. That said, I am not sure how losing Randle is not viewed as a massive failure. Randle playing the backup 5 and some spot minutes as a PF changes the ceiling for this team in my opinion. The FO should have worked hard to get him to accept the QO and then paid him above market next off season once a max guy was signed.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject:

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Randle isn't very good. Way too overrated around here.


Have you seen him play? The improvement is obvious.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject:

PCP.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject:

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Small sample size, but I really don’t like either of them. We had Randle for a long time and he isn’t a good shooter, not any more than Rondo is...who is shooting .500 from 3 so far in just a handful of attempts.

We weren’t interested in making a long term commitment to him, he got insulted and went to go play off the bench for someone else for a modest salary. Time to let it go...Randle is good, but not good enough to worry about losing, in the end he’s just another guy...nothing special IMO.


Guess who else is shooting 50% behind the arc on the same attempts as Rondo?

Julius Randle.

Like I said, didn't fire his agent and sign with Klutch, but I'm annoyed at some of the passing IQ plays and the decisive spot up shooting behind the arc.

Dude averaging 19/11 on 24 minutes and not even starting.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject:

OdomGrab wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Randle didn't fire Mintz and sign with Klutch.

If this is true and not sarcasm then it's a sad day for us fans.
If randle stuck by his agent, I respect him even more.

I'm still looking forward to the season but basically what every one is
saying is that
1. Loosing randle and keeping PcP is a package deal.
2. Or that he wanted a longer commitment which was not possible.
3. save space for LeBron partner.
4. JR didn't want to play with LeBron.

The third one makes sense. Even I want this.

I just have a simple question for the management. Randle showed
glimpses of someone who will have a really great career in the Nba.
Why did we treat him like this?

At the end of last year, I very much bought into JR as our alpha player.
we had a good established pecking order.
Guys were having a good year around randle's hustle.
I find it funny that people think jr was a defensive liability when
he stood up to almost every big in the nba one by one.
JR deserved a 4 yr 40 mill contract.
There is something stupid about just letting your hardest
worker walk. Whats more stupid is that this keeps happening
to us over and over again.
I think ball and kuzma will miss him even when they have LeBron.
I also think JR was a good role model for the other guys.

now this team is full of pseudo alphas and artest like lunatics without that mwp skill.

All our players saw what JR did and he still got shipped.

To please a decling diva superstar NonAlpha.
All to make room for a 12mil/yr d-leager.
Then added nutcase fists of spitting fury rondo.
a incresingly unstable looking Brandon Ingram.
and LANCE

Can anyone explain why it was so hard to give
randle like 3 yr 30 mill. Did a agent politics cost us randle and guys like artest.


LUOL DENG.

mistakes of 2016.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:58 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
defense wrote:
KCP is not trash

Randle was not and is not 10X better

Which players are 10x better than KCP?


you would have to ask the OP

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:02 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
defense wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
defense wrote:
KCP is not trash

Randle was not and is not 10X better

Which players are 10x better than KCP?


you would have to ask the OP

OP?!


not up on message board lingo....but I think that is "Original Poster"?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:07 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
defense wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
defense wrote:
KCP is not trash

Randle was not and is not 10X better

Which players are 10x better than KCP?


you would have to ask the OP

OP?!


not up on message board lingo....but I think that is "Original Poster"?



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:19 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
Randle isn't very good. Way too overrated around here.


Have you seen him play? The improvement is obvious.
Facts.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:24 pm    Post subject:

Vancouver Fan wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
Randle isn't very good. Way too overrated around here.


Have you seen him play? The improvement is obvious.
Facts.


Yep. Memphis should have just said he's overrated and left out the "not very good" part.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:35 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Small sample size, but I really don’t like either of them. We had Randle for a long time and he isn’t a good shooter, not any more than Rondo is...who is shooting .500 from 3 so far in just a handful of attempts.

We weren’t interested in making a long term commitment to him, he got insulted and went to go play off the bench for someone else for a modest salary. Time to let it go...Randle is good, but not good enough to worry about losing, in the end he’s just another guy...nothing special IMO.


Guess who else is shooting 50% behind the arc on the same attempts as Rondo?

Julius Randle.

Like I said, didn't fire his agent and sign with Klutch, but I'm annoyed at some of the passing IQ plays and the decisive spot up shooting behind the arc.

Dude averaging 19/11 on 24 minutes and not even starting.

That's nothing special, Mike. He's just another guy!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:38 pm    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
defense wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
defense wrote:
KCP is not trash

Randle was not and is not 10X better

Which players are 10x better than KCP?


you would have to ask the OP

OP?!


not up on message board lingo....but I think that is "Original Poster"?



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:54 pm    Post subject:

On the bright side, Julius looks to be in a great spot and the Lakers’ loss his gain, not to mention the Pels’. Don’t think he’d get the opportunity he is getting if he stayed. Can’t wish him anything but continued success.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:07 pm    Post subject:

This should either be locked or merged with the Julius thread in the general nba forum. Most of us moved on from this ex-Laker a long time ago. Sneaking "PCP" in there to disguise it as a laker discussion is unnecessary.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:25 pm    Post subject:

On a bright note, do we keep our pick this year?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:36 pm    Post subject:

The only good things this front office has done are draft Kuzma and sign LeBron. Somehow not smart enough to realize you need rebounding and interior defense to win.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Small sample size, but I really don’t like either of them. We had Randle for a long time and he isn’t a good shooter, not any more than Rondo is...who is shooting .500 from 3 so far in just a handful of attempts.

We weren’t interested in making a long term commitment to him, he got insulted and went to go play off the bench for someone else for a modest salary. Time to let it go...Randle is good, but not good enough to worry about losing, in the end he’s just another guy...nothing special IMO.


Guess who else is shooting 50% behind the arc on the same attempts as Rondo?

Julius Randle.

Like I said, didn't fire his agent and sign with Klutch, but I'm annoyed at some of the passing IQ plays and the decisive spot up shooting behind the arc.

Dude averaging 19/11 on 24 minutes and not even starting.

That's nothing special, Mike. He's just another guy!


Eh, his BPM is worse then last year and his DPM is negative. He’s just an average player in the league who hit a few 3s to start the season. Same conversation we all had about DLO when he was shipped out, got off to a fast start then regressed back to being crappy.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject:

Fortysixn2 wrote:
Judah wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Fortysixn2 wrote:
Small sample size, but I really don’t like either of them. We had Randle for a long time and he isn’t a good shooter, not any more than Rondo is...who is shooting .500 from 3 so far in just a handful of attempts.

We weren’t interested in making a long term commitment to him, he got insulted and went to go play off the bench for someone else for a modest salary. Time to let it go...Randle is good, but not good enough to worry about losing, in the end he’s just another guy...nothing special IMO.


Guess who else is shooting 50% behind the arc on the same attempts as Rondo?

Julius Randle.

Like I said, didn't fire his agent and sign with Klutch, but I'm annoyed at some of the passing IQ plays and the decisive spot up shooting behind the arc.

Dude averaging 19/11 on 24 minutes and not even starting.

That's nothing special, Mike. He's just another guy!


Eh, his BPM is worse then last year and his DPM is negative. He’s just an average player in the league who hit a few 3s to start the season. Same conversation we all had about DLO when he was shipped out, got off to a fast start then regressed back to being crappy.

What...what is DPM?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:58 pm    Post subject:

The youth is flawed, but good.

The vet signings outside of McGee and Rondo (mea culpa) are (bleep).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:33 pm    Post subject:

Love spending $29m on 4 players that don't really move the needle in Rondo, KCP, Beasley and Stephenson.

The FO really screwed up after getting Lebron.

We should have kept Lopez and Randle and then signed a cheap back-up PG.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:40 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:14 pm    Post subject:

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Love spending $29m on 4 players that don't really move the needle in Rondo, KCP, Beasley and Stephenson.

The FO really screwed up after getting Lebron.

We should have kept Lopez and Randle and then signed a cheap back-up PG.


Did you miss the part of those contracts being one year deals?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:25 pm    Post subject:

I'm 75% sure Ingram will never be an above average shooter, and it may be advantageous to trade him before the league figures the same.
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