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| Which Youngin' Do You Think is Most Likely to Break Out Next Year (to Actual/Borderline All-Star Levels)? |
| Lonzo Ball |
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13% |
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| Brandon Ingram |
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49% |
[ 36 ] |
| Kyle Kuzma |
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19% |
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| Josh Hart |
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0% |
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| Ivica Zubac |
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1% |
[ 1 ] |
| None |
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16% |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | 70sdude wrote: | | RG73 wrote: | | This is very simple: every Lakers fan ballot should contain 5 Lakers players. We outnumber everyone else. Don't vote for Warriors players, don't vote for Rockets, Pelicans, Thunder, Spurs, or anyone else. Don't worry, the coaches will vote in anyone else you want to see in the game. But pretty much everyone's ballot should be Bron/BI/Kuz/Zo/Hart. Those Bay Area people are going to try to stack it with their 5 anyway and we've seen enough of them. |
No way, and more to the point, the GSW have four players better than the second best Laker. |
Some do not get the concept of an all star game. If I watch, I want to see the best players. |
Exactly, if every city will vote their players in it’ll be an asterisk
All star game; me ? I’ll not be interested.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| RG73 wrote: | | This is very simple: every Lakers fan ballot should contain 5 Lakers players. We outnumber everyone else. Don't vote for Warriors players, don't vote for Rockets, Pelicans, Thunder, Spurs, or anyone else. Don't worry, the coaches will vote in anyone else you want to see in the game. But pretty much everyone's ballot should be Bron/BI/Kuz/Zo/Hart. Those Bay Area people are going to try to stack it with their 5 anyway and we've seen enough of them. |
I don't vote for undeserving players just because they wear a Lakers uniform. I'm still embarrassed Lakers fans stuffed the ballot for AC Green over Karl Malone, and I'm glad the NBA changed the system to prevent such stupidity in the future.
If a player wants my vote, he earns it on the court -- and I don't care what team he plays for. |
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Nash Vegas
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Nice. A lot of the Lonzo stuff their talks about him making his open 3s. Man, I hope he improves his shooting next season.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Not 1, Not 2, Not 3, ....
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: |
Nice. A lot of the Lonzo stuff their talks about him making his open 3s. Man, I hope he improves his shooting next season. |
He was on fire from 3 when he returned from injury in February, hopefully he can keep it consistent this season.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Believe! At least One of our Young Core will be an All-Star Next Season! |
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| Lonzo-Lite wrote: | | At least one but maybe even two of our young core will be All-Stars! Believe it! |
Randle doesn't count? |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | It depends on how much fan voting matters. Never forget (and I've repeated it here a gajillion times) that AC Green once started over Karl Malone. |
Fan vote counts for 50% of the starters only. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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yooo lmfao I (bleep) died at how he snuck in that contact advertisement.
Goes from talking about Lebron finding open three point shooters and transitions into an advertisement with this one sentence: "Clearly Lebron has 20/20 vision, but you might not..."
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I’ve been a Ball skeptic, but I think he is the most likely to explode into stardom with Lebron. It may or may not happen, but I can imagine Ball emerging as Pippen 2.0. I have a harder time imagining the others exploding like that. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | I’ve been a Ball skeptic, but I think he is the most likely to explode into stardom with Lebron. It may or may not happen, but I can imagine Ball emerging as Pippen 2.0. I have a harder time imagining the others exploding like that. |
I can lowkey see that happening too. Lonzo can have an insane impact on defense, rebounding, playmaking and really controlling the game as Lebrons running mate.
Maybe he finds his niche on offense by running the break, cutting and using his hips to finish with authority. Although I see his three point shooting improving regardless
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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I can see both Ben Simmons and D Mitchell making the all star game next year......
Spots are very limited imo.... |
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Alright at point guard you got
Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, Steph Curry
penciled in, so no chance there
at shooting guard you've got
James Harden, Klay Thompson, DeMar Derozan
penciled in and you've also got Jimmy Butler or Devin Booker, so nope there
at small forward you've got
LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Paul George
penciled in. So Ingram would have to beat out one of those three
At power forward you've got
Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Aldridge, and you got Dirk who probably gets in as his final year.
but since they do a two 'forward' situation for the last two slots, the best chance for the Lakers would be if they have a 4 that makes the all-star team. So that would mean Kuzma could have the biggest chance, but I think LeBron is our starting 4 this year, so Ingram would have to be the biggest chance.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Alright at point guard you got
Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, Steph Curry
penciled in, so no chance there
at shooting guard you've got
James Harden, Klay Thompson, DeMar Derozan
penciled in and you've also got Jimmy Butler or Devin Booker, so nope there
at small forward you've got
LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Paul George
penciled in. So Ingram would have to beat out one of those three
At power forward you've got
Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Aldridge, and you got Dirk who probably gets in as his final year.
but since they do a two 'forward' situation for the last two slots, the best chance for the Lakers would be if they have a 4 that makes the all-star team. So that would mean Kuzma could have the biggest chance, but I think LeBron is our starting 4 this year, so Ingram would have to be the biggest chance. |
They've already scrapped traditional positions in the voting. It's been like that for several years now. That means no sharp distinctions between 3’s and 4’s. They're all grouped together as just wings.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| BI was averaging 18+ and 5+ both assists/rebounds while shooting a torrid pace from 2's and 3's before his injury. He is the one that is going to feast with the addition of LJ. He grew leaps and bounds in his inside/outside game while having NO team mate that defenses worried about. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| Jordan-esque wrote: | Kuzma & Ingram are the most probable next season.
- Kuz has already showed he has star power in just his rookie year, being able to take over a game and has broken or tied 7 Lakers' rookie records.
- BI has shown big leaps of improvement from his first to second year, and if he can just stay healthy his ceiling in year 3 is high.
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Kuzma is the most likely because he’s skill set fits perfectly with Lebron and Rondo. Plus he had over 300k allstar votes last year. Add his media tour when our season was over.
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| adkindo wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | I would bet against it....the West is loaded....
Close to locks....
Backcourt - Curry, Harden, Paul, Westbrook, Lillard, Butler
Frontcourt - Lebron, Durant, George, Kawhi (if healthy), Davis, KAT, Aldridge
then there is....
Baskcourt- Thompson, Booker, McCollum, Mitchell
Frontcourt - Green, Capela, Jokic |
consider at least 5 of these named guys will not make the All Star team...there could always be injuries and alternates.
The West is just banana's |
If Kuzma is avg 20 + like I think he would Jokic and Capela will not get more votes
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| deal wrote: | | LBJ, will be a lock. I doubt any other Laker will make it in but if that should happen hopefully it's based on merit and not fan, media or player bias. |
Well couldn’t Lebron put them on his team?
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| Car54 wrote: | | Jordan-esque wrote: | Kuzma & Ingram are the most probable next season.
- Kuz has already showed he has star power in just his rookie year, being able to take over a game and has broken or tied 7 Lakers' rookie records.
- BI has shown big leaps of improvement from his first to second year, and if he can just stay healthy his ceiling in year 3 is high.
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Kuzma is the most likely because he’s skill set fits perfectly with Lebron and Rondo. Plus he had over 300k allstar votes last year. Add his media tour when our season was over. |
That's the context of the actual question, being an actual "All Star". To go with the popularity, it's only going to rise as I think he will be the focal point when James hits the bench. I think they play Ingram more with LeBron to be a defensive complement and that they want him to grow to be that 20 pt guy. It's such an odd thing to say, as both of them really can be 20pt guys, not that this is the barometer.
I really hope they both grow and both get in the convo for being selected, regardless of either being able to crack the hard west. Lebron already defeated the notion that he had to have an accomplished all-star to sign, the media was wrong and some of us were wrong. Going forward any sort of competition hopefully pushes each one to play better, but we really shouldn't be caught up in saying which one is better...though that's what we do. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | I would bet against it....the West is loaded....
Close to locks....
Backcourt - Curry, Harden, Paul, Westbrook, Lillard, Butler
Frontcourt - Lebron, Durant, George, Kawhi (if healthy), Davis, KAT, Aldridge
then there is....
Baskcourt- Thompson, Booker, McCollum, Mitchell
Frontcourt - Green, Capela, Jokic |
Kawhi’s no longer a lock |
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| MJST wrote: | Alright at point guard you got
Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, Steph Curry
penciled in, so no chance there
at shooting guard you've got
James Harden, Klay Thompson, DeMar Derozan
penciled in and you've also got Jimmy Butler or Devin Booker, so nope there
at small forward you've got
LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Paul George
penciled in. So Ingram would have to beat out one of those three
At power forward you've got
Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Aldridge, and you got Dirk who probably gets in as his final year.
but since they do a two 'forward' situation for the last two slots, the best chance for the Lakers would be if they have a 4 that makes the all-star team. So that would mean Kuzma could have the biggest chance, but I think LeBron is our starting 4 this year, so Ingram would have to be the biggest chance. |
DeRozan and Chris Paul are not locks. DeRozan we don’t know what kind of numbers he puts up in SA. CP3 can fall off the cliff anytime now.
Dirk will not be making the All star team. Last time he made it was 2015. |
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Paul George is NOT a lock. He wasn't voted in by fans or chosen by the coaches last season. He only made it as replacement when Boogie went down.
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I think folks are discounting how difficult it is to make the WC All Star team.
BI/Lonzo/Kuz will have to take quantum leaps to make the squad this year. Doesn't mean they can't make it in the future, but this year, tough.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| if that happens we were lucky PG13 passed on us. We honestly may have a similar player in Kuz. |
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