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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:36 am    Post subject: How does our version of the "death lineup" stack up to playoff teams?

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“We may not see this on day one, but the coaching staff is eager to see our version of the [Warriors'] Death Lineup with Lonzo [Ball], Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, [Kyle] Kuzma and LeBron," a second Lakers executive said.


I'm not delusional enough to think that this lineup will give the Warriors any trouble with their death lineup but I think this lineup can do some damage.

Ball (6'6)
Hart (6'5)
Ingram (6'9)
Kuzma (6'9)
Bron (6'9)

This lineup has atleast 2 very good shooters, atleast 2 very good defenders, atleast 2 very good scorers , and 2 guys with IQ levels that are off the chart.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject:

I'd rather have a rim protector in there
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: How does our version of the "death lineup" stack up to playoff teams?

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“We may not see this on day one, but the coaching staff is eager to see our version of the [Warriors'] Death Lineup with Lonzo [Ball], Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, [Kyle] Kuzma and LeBron," a second Lakers executive said.


I'm not delusional enough to think that this lineup will give the Warriors any trouble with their death lineup but I think this lineup can do some damage.

Ball (6'6)
Hart (6'5)
Ingram (6'9)
Kuzma (6'9)
Bron (6'9)

This lineup has atleast 2 very good shooters, atleast 2 very good defenders, atleast 2 very good scorers , and 2 guys with IQ levels that are off the chart.


i would replace ball with kcp until lonzo learns to shoot with consistency.
but that group will be nasty.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:50 am    Post subject:

And then in 2019:

Lonzo
Hart
BI
KL
LBJ.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: How does our version of the "death lineup" stack up to playoff teams?

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1ngr4m wrote:
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“We may not see this on day one, but the coaching staff is eager to see our version of the [Warriors'] Death Lineup with Lonzo [Ball], Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, [Kyle] Kuzma and LeBron," a second Lakers executive said.


I'm not delusional enough to think that this lineup will give the Warriors any trouble with their death lineup but I think this lineup can do some damage.

Ball (6'6)
Hart (6'5)
Ingram (6'9)
Kuzma (6'9)
Bron (6'9)

This lineup has atleast 2 very good shooters, atleast 2 very good defenders, atleast 2 very good scorers , and 2 guys with IQ levels that are off the chart.


i would replace ball with kcp until lonzo learns to shoot with consistency.
but that group will be nasty.


Honestly, I think Lonzo will be the second most important piece if that lineup after Lebron. He's the best defender in that lineup by far at this point, and I think his jumpshot will be improved this year.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject:

The nice thing is we have a lot of mix/match players this year, unlike last year when due to injury, Travis Wear was our starting SF and Ennis playing major PG minutes.

Lonzo down? Bring in Rondo.
KCP in jail? Bring out Hart.
BI feeling gimpy? Lance or LBJ.

And so on.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject:

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I'd rather have a rim protector in there
You only need a rim protector when the defender is trailing, if you switch everything the defender won’t trail unless you are terrible at defense. These guys are all good defenders.

Also basketball is like boxer, styles make the fights. If we build our identity to push the pace and get a bunch of lay ups every game from steals and missed 3s while forcing teams to play ISO because of our strong switching (rockets forced gsw) then i like our changes. Lebron is the best player in the open court, then you add in lonzo, hart, kuz and ingram. Everytime any of these players grab a rebound they won’t be looking to pass to our Pg.. they are pushing. They will kee teams on their heels.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: How does our version of the "death lineup" stack up to playoff teams?

1ngr4m wrote:
hydrohead wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
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“We may not see this on day one, but the coaching staff is eager to see our version of the [Warriors'] Death Lineup with Lonzo [Ball], Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, [Kyle] Kuzma and LeBron," a second Lakers executive said.


I'm not delusional enough to think that this lineup will give the Warriors any trouble with their death lineup but I think this lineup can do some damage.

Ball (6'6)
Hart (6'5)
Ingram (6'9)
Kuzma (6'9)
Bron (6'9)

This lineup has atleast 2 very good shooters, atleast 2 very good defenders, atleast 2 very good scorers , and 2 guys with IQ levels that are off the chart.


i would replace ball with kcp until lonzo learns to shoot with consistency.
but that group will be nasty.


Honestly, I think Lonzo will be the second most important piece if that lineup after Lebron. He's the best defender in that lineup by far at this point, and I think his jumpshot will be improved this year.

i hope you are right. don’t sleep on kcp as a defender though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: How does our version of the "death lineup" stack up to playoff teams?

1ngr4m wrote:
hydrohead wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
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“We may not see this on day one, but the coaching staff is eager to see our version of the [Warriors'] Death Lineup with Lonzo [Ball], Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, [Kyle] Kuzma and LeBron," a second Lakers executive said.


I'm not delusional enough to think that this lineup will give the Warriors any trouble with their death lineup but I think this lineup can do some damage.

Ball (6'6)
Hart (6'5)
Ingram (6'9)
Kuzma (6'9)
Bron (6'9)

This lineup has atleast 2 very good shooters, atleast 2 very good defenders, atleast 2 very good scorers , and 2 guys with IQ levels that are off the chart.


i would replace ball with kcp until lonzo learns to shoot with consistency.
but that group will be nasty.


Honestly, I think Lonzo will be the second most important piece if that lineup after Lebron. He's the best defender in that lineup by far at this point, and I think his jumpshot will be improved this year.

i hope you are right. don’t sleep on kcp as a defender though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject:

At first, it may look more like;


Lance
KCP
Ingram
Kuzma
LeBron
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject:

deal wrote:
At first, it may look more like;


Lance
KCP
Ingram
Kuzma
LeBron


Or
Rondo
Ball
Hart
LeBron
McGee

We really have no idea what our death lineup is at this point.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: How does our version of the "death lineup" stack up to playoff teams?

1ngr4m wrote:
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“We may not see this on day one, but the coaching staff is eager to see our version of the [Warriors'] Death Lineup with Lonzo [Ball], Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, [Kyle] Kuzma and LeBron," a second Lakers executive said.


I'm not delusional enough to think that this lineup will give the Warriors any trouble with their death lineup but I think this lineup can do some damage.

Ball (6'6)
Hart (6'5)
Ingram (6'9)
Kuzma (6'9)
Bron (6'9)

This lineup has atleast 2 very good shooters, atleast 2 very good defenders, atleast 2 very good scorers , and 2 guys with IQ levels that are off the chart.


The Warriors are going to be running out of gas and the Rockets just took them to 7 games. Why does nobody think we have a chance?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:32 pm    Post subject:

Then they throw Boogie Cousins out there and he dominates Lebron in the post.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject:

Honestly I think any lineup of death we throw out there next season should include Rondo, especially if it's in the playoffs.

I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Rondo and Bron just killing teams in the playoffs together. That's a ton of experience and IQ and competitiveness right there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject:

death lineup? that's GSW
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:05 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
The nice thing is we have a lot of mix/match players this year, unlike last year when due to injury, Travis Wear was our starting SF and Ennis playing major PG minutes.

Lonzo down? Bring in Rondo.
KCP in jail? Bring out Hart.
BI feeling gimpy? Lance or LBJ.

And so on.



kcp in jail

sorry cannot help it
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:08 pm    Post subject:

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Then they throw Boogie Cousins out there and he dominates Lebron in the post.


Which means less 3's from more efficient wing players. Boogie is a mediocre post-player.

https://stats.nba.com/players/playtype-post-up/?Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=Time&dir=1&CF=PlayerFirstName*E*demarcus
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:29 pm    Post subject:

would love that teams changed lineup to match ours
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject:

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loslakersss wrote:
I'd rather have a rim protector in there
You only need a rim protector when the defender is trailing, if you switch everything the defender won’t trail unless you are terrible at defense. These guys are all good defenders.

Also basketball is like boxer, styles make the fights. If we build our identity to push the pace and get a bunch of lay ups every game from steals and missed 3s while forcing teams to play ISO because of our strong switching (rockets forced gsw) then i like our changes. Lebron is the best player in the open court, then you add in lonzo, hart, kuz and ingram. Everytime any of these players grab a rebound they won’t be looking to pass to our Pg.. they are pushing. They will kee teams on their heels.


You bring up 2 very good points. The first one especially.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject:

cal1piggy wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
The nice thing is we have a lot of mix/match players this year, unlike last year when due to injury, Travis Wear was our starting SF and Ennis playing major PG minutes.

Lonzo down? Bring in Rondo.
KCP in jail? Bring out Hart.
BI feeling gimpy? Lance or LBJ.

And so on.



kcp in jail

sorry cannot help it


Same
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:40 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
death lineup? that's GSW


They didn't look all that scary against the Rockets tbh
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:47 pm    Post subject:

vanexelent wrote:
Then they throw Boogie Cousins out there and he dominates Lebron in the post.


lol it's not like we're forced to run a death lineup like idiots no matter what the other team does
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:48 pm    Post subject:

if KCP is on the floor we could use the name 'Lockdown Lineup'
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:06 pm    Post subject:

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deal wrote:
At first, it may look more like;


Lance
KCP
Ingram
Kuzma
LeBron


Or
Rondo
Ball
Hart
LeBron
McGee

We really have no idea what our death lineup is at this point.


Yeah, after I sent I realized I’m forgot Rondo. Still don’t know if Hart makes the cut. He’ll have time to show off.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:06 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
death lineup? that's GSW


Then let's call it the "Round Table" or "Camelot" lineup or something - a King with 4 Knights around him.

And Magic would be Merlin, of course.
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