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Inspector Gadget
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | logical24 wrote: | Just saw a post from Vincent ellis on Instagram
The #Lakers are seeking a potential deal to acquire #Wizards G Bradley Beal before the trade deadline. The "ideal thought' is to package F Kyle Kuzma and future first round pick in offer, Per Vincent Ellis.
The Instagram page is @Lakersonline
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Lakers don't have the salary to trade for Beal. |
Actually, we do. HOWEVER...
Beal cannot be traded until April, due to the extension he signed in October. In other words, he can't be traded until the offseason. |
Pretty interesting that the IG guy didn’t know that before he decided to make something up. |
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It's interesting that Rob has Kobe's 08-10' seasons to reference in the building of this team... 08' the Lakers were great but it was their first year w/Pau and they couldn't get over the hump. In 09' Ariza was critical as a defender and energy infuser.....
Just from my perspective, I would think Rob has to be leery of only having the roster as currently constructed, go for a Championship run.. I'd be surprised if he's satisfied with the roster..... We aren't some happy go-lucky franchise that's just happy to have a great team; when we see weaknesses, I'd think we know we have to address them. |
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ChickenStu
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | logical24 wrote: | Just saw a post from Vincent ellis on Instagram
The #Lakers are seeking a potential deal to acquire #Wizards G Bradley Beal before the trade deadline. The "ideal thought' is to package F Kyle Kuzma and future first round pick in offer, Per Vincent Ellis.
The Instagram page is @Lakersonline
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Lakers don't have the salary to trade for Beal. |
Actually, we do. HOWEVER...
Beal cannot be traded until April, due to the extension he signed in October. In other words, he can't be traded until the offseason. |
We do if we wanted to gut the team. Even if he could be traded before April, it would take 4 or 5 players to trade for him. |
No it wouldn't, as Green, Bradley, and Cousins works. That's a trade the Lakers would make all day. Of course, the Wizards could get way more for Beal, either in the form of better players or picks, so it's a moot point anyway.
Actually, it was already moot since they can't trade Beal until the offseason! LOL.
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LakerMindLA
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | logical24 wrote: | Just saw a post from Vincent ellis on Instagram
The #Lakers are seeking a potential deal to acquire #Wizards G Bradley Beal before the trade deadline. The "ideal thought' is to package F Kyle Kuzma and future first round pick in offer, Per Vincent Ellis.
The Instagram page is @Lakersonline
21k followers |
Lakers don't have the salary to trade for Beal. |
Actually, we do. HOWEVER...
Beal cannot be traded until April, due to the extension he signed in October. In other words, he can't be traded until the offseason. |
We do if we wanted to gut the team. Even if he could be traded before April, it would take 4 or 5 players to trade for him. |
No it wouldn't, as Green, Bradley, and Cousins works. That's a trade the Lakers would make all day. Of course, the Wizards could get way more for Beal, either in the form of better players or picks, so it's a moot point anyway. |
But I am assuming Kuzma is in the trade. |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | It's interesting that Rob has Kobe's 08-10' seasons to reference in the building of this team... 08' the Lakers were great but it was their first year w/Pau and they couldn't get over the hump. In 09' Ariza was critical as a defender and energy infuser.....
Just from my perspective, I would think Rob has to be leery of only having the roster as currently constructed, go for a Championship run.. I'd be surprised if he's satisfied with the roster..... We aren't some happy go-lucky franchise that's just happy to have a great team; when we see weaknesses, I'd think we know we have to address them. |
This is why I still think Rose/Morris for Kuz/Cook/Daniels is a big possibility. The kind of trade that puts us over the hump. Morris could easily give us the game that Kuz gave last night (not a slight on Kuz btw, Morris has been really solid in his role this year) and Rose is a huge addition no two ways about it
I think it’ll either be that and then signing a shooter (maybe someone like Crabbe gets bought out?), or we’ll sign Collison, waive Daniels and more or less call it a day with maybe a trade for another small piece (Cook for Valentine, for instance)
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | logical24 wrote: | Just saw a post from Vincent ellis on Instagram
The #Lakers are seeking a potential deal to acquire #Wizards G Bradley Beal before the trade deadline. The "ideal thought' is to package F Kyle Kuzma and future first round pick in offer, Per Vincent Ellis.
The Instagram page is @Lakersonline
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Sounds bogus |
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| alleyoop wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | It's interesting that Rob has Kobe's 08-10' seasons to reference in the building of this team... 08' the Lakers were great but it was their first year w/Pau and they couldn't get over the hump. In 09' Ariza was critical as a defender and energy infuser.....
Just from my perspective, I would think Rob has to be leery of only having the roster as currently constructed, go for a Championship run.. I'd be surprised if he's satisfied with the roster..... We aren't some happy go-lucky franchise that's just happy to have a great team; when we see weaknesses, I'd think we know we have to address them. |
This is why I still think Rose/Morris for Kuz/Cook/Daniels is a big possibility. The kind of trade that puts us over the hump. Morris could easily give us the game that Kuz gave last night (not a slight on Kuz btw, Morris has been really solid in his role this year) and Rose is a huge addition no two ways about it
I think it’ll either be that and then signing a shooter (maybe someone like Crabbe gets bought out?), or we’ll sign Collison, waive Daniels and more or less call it a day with maybe a trade for another small piece (Cook for Valentine, for instance) |
People really overrate Morris. He’s not good.
He could also never guard Westbrook.
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| logical24 wrote: | Just saw a post from Vincent ellis on Instagram
The #Lakers are seeking a potential deal to acquire #Wizards G Bradley Beal before the trade deadline. The "ideal thought' is to package F Kyle Kuzma and future first round pick in offer, Per Vincent Ellis.
The Instagram page is @Lakersonline
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Someone should tell Vincent Ellis that we don’t have first round picks to trade.
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| Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | It's interesting that Rob has Kobe's 08-10' seasons to reference in the building of this team... 08' the Lakers were great but it was their first year w/Pau and they couldn't get over the hump. In 09' Ariza was critical as a defender and energy infuser.....
Just from my perspective, I would think Rob has to be leery of only having the roster as currently constructed, go for a Championship run.. I'd be surprised if he's satisfied with the roster..... We aren't some happy go-lucky franchise that's just happy to have a great team; when we see weaknesses, I'd think we know we have to address them. |
While I don’t disagree, trading Kuz would be creating a hole in this roster. He’s the only guy that can actually sub in for Lebron or AD. What happens if we get another injury? I get that Kuz is really the only asset the team has, but he’s indispensable in his role right now and is not even close to a finished product. Then you add in his minuscule salary for this and next year and it doesn’t make sense to trade him. He’s worth so much more to this team. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | logical24 wrote: | Just saw a post from Vincent ellis on Instagram
The #Lakers are seeking a potential deal to acquire #Wizards G Bradley Beal before the trade deadline. The "ideal thought' is to package F Kyle Kuzma and future first round pick in offer, Per Vincent Ellis.
The Instagram page is @Lakersonline
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Lakers don't have the salary to trade for Beal. |
Actually, we do. HOWEVER...
Beal cannot be traded until April, due to the extension he signed in October. In other words, he can't be traded until the offseason. |
We do if we wanted to gut the team. Even if he could be traded before April, it would take 4 or 5 players to trade for him. |
No it wouldn't, as Green, Bradley, and Cousins works. That's a trade the Lakers would make all day. Of course, the Wizards could get way more for Beal, either in the form of better players or picks, so it's a moot point anyway.
Actually, it was already moot since they can't trade Beal until the offseason! LOL. |
If and when Beal is traded to another team, the masterminds of LG will conclude it's because the Lakers REFUSED to move Kuzma. "You see, there was this article I read...".
Yeah, that sound you hear? It's the sound of the little hamster running around a hamster wheel inside their heads. Gotta start that grey matter going some how!
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| Doc JC wrote: | | Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
Someone posted a quote from the Piston GM that basically said Rose stays unless he wants out. I doubt he wants a second tour with Lebron.
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| Doc JC wrote: | | Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
The team that gives up a 1st round pick will likely be those that are fighting for the lower playoff seed. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
Someone posted a quote from the Piston GM that basically said Rose stays unless he wants out. I doubt he wants a second tour with Lebron. |
At this stage in his career, I would assume he would want a chance at a playoff run. I’m not implying it should be the lakers, but I would guess he would want to keep playing if he’s healthy. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
Someone posted a quote from the Piston GM that basically said Rose stays unless he wants out. I doubt he wants a second tour with Lebron. |
He is a mental midget anyways. Went missing when he couldn't take pressure |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
Someone posted a quote from the Piston GM that basically said Rose stays unless he wants out. I doubt he wants a second tour with Lebron. |
He is a mental midget anyways. Went missing when he couldn't take pressure |
I have no interest in trading for him. I would rather go with what we have, another Zubac for Muscala trade might put us out of the running.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
Someone posted a quote from the Piston GM that basically said Rose stays unless he wants out. I doubt he wants a second tour with Lebron. |
He is a mental midget anyways. Went missing when he couldn't take pressure |
I have no interest in trading for him. I would rather go with what we have, another Zubac for Muscala trade might put us out of the running. |
Are you comparing Muscala to Rose? Lol |
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that trade alone should have precluded us from extending pelinka
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | that trade alone should have precluded us from extending pelinka |
Detroit one was worse then this |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | that trade alone should have precluded us from extending pelinka |
Wasn't his call. |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | that trade alone should have precluded us from extending pelinka |
The person who was responsible for that trade stepped down as VP operations in April, if Pelinka really was the reason for that trade we would have already witnessed a similar trade by now. |
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| Doc JC wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | It's interesting that Rob has Kobe's 08-10' seasons to reference in the building of this team... 08' the Lakers were great but it was their first year w/Pau and they couldn't get over the hump. In 09' Ariza was critical as a defender and energy infuser.....
Just from my perspective, I would think Rob has to be leery of only having the roster as currently constructed, go for a Championship run.. I'd be surprised if he's satisfied with the roster..... We aren't some happy go-lucky franchise that's just happy to have a great team; when we see weaknesses, I'd think we know we have to address them. |
While I don’t disagree, trading Kuz would be creating a hole in this roster. He’s the only guy that can actually sub in for Lebron or AD. What happens if we get another injury? I get that Kuz is really the only asset the team has, but he’s indispensable in his role right now and is not even close to a finished product. Then you add in his minuscule salary for this and next year and it doesn’t make sense to trade him. He’s worth so much more to this team. |
Yea I wasn’t alluding to a Kuz trade.. idk how we’ll get a deal done but we have to |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
Someone posted a quote from the Piston GM that basically said Rose stays unless he wants out. I doubt he wants a second tour with Lebron. |
He is a mental midget anyways. Went missing when he couldn't take pressure |
I have no interest in trading for him. I would rather go with what we have, another Zubac for Muscala trade might put us out of the running. |
Are you comparing Muscala to Rose? Lol |
No, just referencing how unsuccessful we were at deadline trades.
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | that trade alone should have precluded us from extending pelinka |
Detroit one was worse then this |
Magic did the Bullock and Muscala trades because he thought we needed vets to help us make a playoff push... no one of those moves are connected with Pelinka. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
Someone posted a quote from the Piston GM that basically said Rose stays unless he wants out. I doubt he wants a second tour with Lebron. |
He is a mental midget anyways. Went missing when he couldn't take pressure |
I have no interest in trading for him. I would rather go with what we have, another Zubac for Muscala trade might put us out of the running. |
Are you comparing Muscala to Rose? Lol |
No, just referencing how unsuccessful we were at deadline trades. |
Oh ok |
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