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pjiddy
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | Beasley and Jerami Grant for DG works in the trade machine |
Nuggets wouldn't trade Grant straight up for Green. |
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pjiddy
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doc JC wrote: | | Also if Rose is traded, a team could easily get a first rounder for him. We can’t even offer that. |
Someone posted a quote from the Piston GM that basically said Rose stays unless he wants out. I doubt he wants a second tour with Lebron. |
Where is this quote?
I’m assuming here but, DRose own a home in LA & I’m sure he wouldn’t mind playing for a contender where he would be a difference maker |
I'm curious about the source of DRose not wanting to play with Lebron. There were talks between him and our team this past summer. I imagine there wouldn't have been talks at all if there was bad blood between them. |
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alleyoop
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Yeah DG is probably seen as untouchable
How many 2nd round picks would we have to add to Cook for Beasley?
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| alleyoop wrote: | Yeah DG is probably seen as untouchable
How many 2nd round picks would we have to add to Cook for Beasley? |
Denver competing against us. They not trading anything to us.
Brogdan was s&t for 1 1st and 2 be. Imagine if we kept 1st and did that trade.
We would have been set after lebron retires |
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pjiddy
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Frank Vogel is not the GM of the team. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: |
Frank Vogel is not the GM of the team. |
The Lakers wouldn't do this deal. |
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pjiddy
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: |
Frank Vogel is not the GM of the team. |
The Lakers wouldn't do this deal. |
Green for Beasley AND Grant?
Then the FO should be fired. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: |
Frank Vogel is not the GM of the team. |
The Lakers wouldn't do this deal. |
Green for Beasley AND Grant?
Then the FO should be fired. |
Beasley has talent and we could retain him via RFA, but are you confident in him playing as well as DG has for us, as a two-way player? As for Grant, sure, he'd help, but he's also expiring. I don't believe we're going to trade DG unless it's as part of a deal for a clear #3. |
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BLF2145
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: |
Frank Vogel is not the GM of the team. |
The Lakers wouldn't do this deal. |
Green for Beasley AND Grant?
Then the FO should be fired. |
Beasley has talent and we could retain him via RFA, but are you confident in him playing as well as DG has for us, as a two-way player? As for Grant, sure, he'd help, but he's also expiring. I don't believe we're going to trade DG unless it's as part of a deal for a clear #3. |
He is saying Denver FO should be fired if they were idiotic enough to make this trade |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I rather have Grant than Green... Grant is the perfect defender against Kawhi and Giannis. and he's a solid shooter. Beasley would be a decent add himself |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I would love to see their numbers against grant |
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The argument for Grant over Green is the defense vs offense argument. You're trading away some offense for a wing defender.
It's pretty much what you prefer more  |
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Jesusdelonla
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Denver nuggets r screwed. Without Millsap, Grant, Beasley, hermangomez they are at 106m.
They should trade grant and get 1/2 2nd Rd picks |
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Laker_Dynasty_01
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | | Laker_Dynasty_01 wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | | Laker_Dynasty_01 wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | | Cook(only 1m guaranteed next year)/Av(player option next season)/2023 & 2024 2nds for Cory Joseph |
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Seems like I got a fan following me around in threads.
Let me guess...you could propose something betterand more realistic?
Oh yeah that's right...our FO can do no wrong with you. I'm sure you believe running Bron at full time point with Rondo as the only other practical option is perfectly sustainable if our ultimate goal is to extend our calendar into June. #CoolStoryBro
Oh look at Bron's total minutes compared to his younger less seasoned contemporaries in 40 games played...
https://stats.nba.com/players/traditional/?sort=MIN&dir=-1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Totals&CF=GP*LE*40
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Making no trade at all is better than dealing away a starting guard who stays in front at an elite level, for a worse overall shooter who is only a slight upgrade as a playmaker. Cook and the two 2nds just sour the deal even more. Moreover, Cory's contract on our books would make me consider taking up blindfolded sword juggling, should it cost us the MLE.
Darren Collison is considering us, Jamal Crawford has expressed interest. I'm sure Trey Burke would be available, even though his defense probably gets him benched in the playoffs. One more backup playmaker is ideal, as Rondo can't stay healthy, AB has disappointed in that regard, and Cook can't crack our 5-guard rotation.
LeBron's minutes per game are still lower than his previous three seasons, and he's taking 1.2 more threes per game, while driving and dishing far less than he did before his groin injury last year. |
His mpg have no bearing in his total minutes played this season. Folks act like his mpg being 3mins lower in his 17th season compared to his career avg is some novelty. Add to that the games he sat in routes and how us dude still playing the 3rd most total minutes among players who suited up for 40 games.
As for MLE...We dont lose the NTP-MLE of 10m unless our total team salary is over 148m. We're projected to be at 120m as is next year. We not losing the MLE from Cory's 12m. C'mon man?! You on one haha |
Admittedly, I was following your lead about losing the MLE, you'd previously suggested our salary cap figure for next year may restrict us to the Taxpayer's Exception (but maybe you were assuming we'd max out KCP with his Bird Rights, your sarcastic suggestion re: the Klutch Tax).
LeBron has sat out blowout wins (and losses) every year, not sure how this year is any different in that regard. Of course he will play more minutes in total than last year, but you must look at how he's playing those minutes, as well as the totals.
His free throw attempts are the lowest in his career, indicating he's picking and choosing when to attack set defenses.
He's on pace to play exactly as many minutes as in 2017, should he play in the remaining 40 games. This is a far, far cry from the Kobe Bryant Death "March" of 2013, where he averaged 43 minutes over 11 games in three weeks (45.5 over the final two weeks). THAT will end a career. |
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LakerMindLA
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If the Lakers can continue to hold their 5 game lead for the #1 seed (or even better, grow it), Lebron will get plenty of rest in the final month of the season.
Lakers will also get plenty of rest after round 1 while the 4/5 seed go 6 or 7 games. |
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alleyoop
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | If the Lakers can continue to hold their 5 game lead for the #1 seed (or even better, grow it), Lebron will get plenty of rest in the final month of the season.
Lakers will also get plenty of rest after round 1 while the 4/5 seed go 6 or 7 games. |
It's why maintaining a lead is so important now, it's great that Bron realises he needs to compete when he can. These next couple of months are important to get that buffer up, especially with Kawhi missing back to backs every so often
We can then afford to play Bron minimal minutes in the last half a month or so, assuming he still wants to get reps up before the playoffs come
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | If the Lakers can continue to hold their 5 game lead for the #1 seed (or even better, grow it), Lebron will get plenty of rest in the final month of the season.
Lakers will also get plenty of rest after round 1 while the 4/5 seed go 6 or 7 games. |
The Lakers play
4/7 Chi
4/9 GS
4/12 MIN
4/14 SAC
Sitting LeBron & AD for GS & Min games would end up being a week off with 2 games remaining
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| LeBron is doing in game load management right now. Specially 1st half of each games which I am totally fine with |
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LakerMindLA
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| alleyoop wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | If the Lakers can continue to hold their 5 game lead for the #1 seed (or even better, grow it), Lebron will get plenty of rest in the final month of the season.
Lakers will also get plenty of rest after round 1 while the 4/5 seed go 6 or 7 games. |
It's why maintaining a lead is so important now, it's great that Bron realises he needs to compete when he can. These next couple of months are important to get that buffer up, especially with Kawhi missing back to backs every so often
We can then afford to play Bron minimal minutes in the last half a month or so, assuming he still wants to get reps up before the playoffs come |
If Lakers can go 7-1 in their next 8 (only 3 against winning teams), I think they’ll have close to an 8 game lead for the 1 seed.
Houston, Denver, Utah all play each other a few times in the next 2 weeks and just have brutal schedules over the next few weeks.
The Clippers are still the biggest threat to the 1 seed because of their easy remaining schedule. |
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Harden & Davis with 3 shooters would be nice after bron retires  |
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| scout0_0 wrote: | | Harden & Davis with 3 shooters would be nice after bron retires |
Watching the Harden and the Rockets is an unbearable experience. What did Lakernation ever do to you that you would sentence them to that cruel fate? |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | Beasley and Jerami Grant for DG works in the trade machine |
Nuggets wouldn't trade Grant straight up for Green. |
would you be willing to throw in THT?
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| Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | Beasley and Jerami Grant for DG works in the trade machine |
Nuggets wouldn't trade Grant straight up for Green. |
would you be willing to throw in THT? |
Guys this is never going to happen so why bother discussing. |
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