Thanks for the info...
Well, if he wants to build a Sillicon Valley Empire, isn't it in his best interest to stay with the Warriors ?
Sure in terms of proximity... but Ballmer isn't a bad mentor to have either.
It just fits with the narrative.
I have absolutely no idea how this kind of business works, but I imagine people who pay for the best seats in Oracle Arena are probably people who have influence ine the Sillicon Valley. If that's what KD is really about, I just don't see any reason for him to go to the Clippers. But Durant's brain is hard to comprehend, so I don't know what's driving him...
Ballmer is as plugged into the Valley as anyone. He is likely an investor in or alongside many VCs, probably gets pitched by start-ups and entrepreneurs all the time, has global tech connections, etc. Unless the court side folks are the likes of Vinod Khosla, Ballmer is a pretty good way to go. To be fair it hasn’t resulted in players flocking to the Kings because of Ranadive, but that is Sacramento, not LA.
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:45 am Post subject:
PengShow wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
Jeanie Buss net worth 30 million
Steve Ballmer net worth 41.9 billion
Net worth means diddly squat when it comes to the numbers game in the NBA under a salary cap, how much an owner is worth only matters in a sport that has no salary cap like Soccer.
No idea why you even bring it up.
It matters when it comes to paying luxury tax. That money comes out of profits. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
I just wanted to ease up on the Clippers hype. Youre right they have some qualities. But some posters here are making it seem like Lakers dont have (bleep) anymore and Clippers are this gleaming opportunity that they'll get major FA"s all of a sudden like its nothing. It aint that easy. And they'll always be in our shadows. They were 1st seed and no one gave a (bleep)
Not sure who is saying the Lakers don't have (bleep) anymore (I mean, we have Lebron freaking James for the next three years) or that the Clippers aren't in our shadows (they will forever be the red headed stepchild team in LA. Even if Ballmer makes them "glitzier" with all his new buildings or whatnot, the Lakers will just become the classic LA team everyone loves for their tradition. Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't lived in SoCal in over a decade, but I just don't see LA becoming a Clipper town ever).
The Clipper-signing-KD-and-Kawhi hype is coming from the media. It's the same kind of whispers that went around when Lebron-to-the-Lakers rumors started. Doesn't matter what we say here. If there's smoke, there's fire.
Net worth means diddly squat when it comes to the numbers game in the NBA under a salary cap, how much an owner is worth only matters in a sport that has no salary cap like Soccer.
No idea why you even bring it up.
It matters when it comes to paying luxury tax. That money comes out of profits.
Yeah that's a good point about luxury tax. It's nothing to Ballmer.
Though it makes you wonder why he doesn't go into to luxury tax every year with that type of money.
Ballmer is as plugged into the Valley as anyone. He is likely an investor in or alongside many VCs, probably gets pitched by start-ups and entrepreneurs all the time, has global tech connections, etc. Unless the court side folks are the likes of Vinod Khosla, Ballmer is a pretty good way to go. To be fair it hasn’t resulted in players flocking to the Kings because of Ranadive, but that is Sacramento, not LA.
As I said I'm far from a specialist on this stuff, so I'll trust you on this one.
I still stand by the fact that KD is highly unpredictable though, so anticipating about what he'll do next year is something even Las Vegas gamblers might have a hard time to catch. And Kawhi is probably the same. They could both end playing for the Hornets for all we know...
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:49 am Post subject:
strong9 wrote:
AirTupac wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
AirTupac wrote:
I just said its hilarious that people think KD and Kawhi will both go to the fking Clippers after their 0 track record of getting anyone notable. It will all of a sudden change because they have Jerry West as a board member at 90 years old.
I don't it want to happen either... but you act like it's impossible for two superstars to want to play for a man whose wealth makes Jeanie Buss look like she's carrying around a piggy bank.
I hope all the rumors are wrong... but it's hard when they keep gaining traction with major outlets.
But they can only offer so much money so his net worth means squat to the players.
I will give you that it doesn't mean squat compared to the Lakers in that the Lakers spend on a training facility, etc. But his connections in business, his ability to make the team cutting edge in technology, etc, can appeal to players who have interests beyond the court these days.
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:51 am Post subject:
AirTupac wrote:
You can make the same argument for all the Lakers legends that are around and the GM in our team. All have connections, business hook ups, and a whole lot of Laker love.
This has been proven. This is why we continue to get big names even when we have our worst years.
Clippers have no track record of anything and people are assuming that KD and Kawhi is a possibility because "WELL NO ONE THOUGHT BRON WAS COMING HERE". Id argue against that too. There was a decent amount of people who thought he was coming to the Lakers.
We have gotten 2 big names in 22 years, Shaq and Lebron. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
You can make the same argument for all the Lakers legends that are around and the GM in our team. All have connections, business hook ups, and a whole lot of Laker love.
This has been proven. This is why we continue to get big names even when we have our worst years.
Clippers have no track record of anything and people are assuming that KD and Kawhi is a possibility because "WELL NO ONE THOUGHT BRON WAS COMING HERE". Id argue against that too. There was a decent amount of people who thought he was coming to the Lakers.
We have gotten 2 big names in 22 years, Shaq and Lebron.
You can make the same argument for all the Lakers legends that are around and the GM in our team. All have connections, business hook ups, and a whole lot of Laker love.
This has been proven. This is why we continue to get big names even when we have our worst years.
Clippers have no track record of anything and people are assuming that KD and Kawhi is a possibility because "WELL NO ONE THOUGHT BRON WAS COMING HERE". Id argue against that too. There was a decent amount of people who thought he was coming to the Lakers.
We have gotten 2 big names in 22 years, Shaq and Lebron.
Or we sign a generational player every 11 years... isn't that by definition how often generational players are supposed to emerge?
You can make the same argument for all the Lakers legends that are around and the GM in our team. All have connections, business hook ups, and a whole lot of Laker love.
This has been proven. This is why we continue to get big names even when we have our worst years.
Clippers have no track record of anything and people are assuming that KD and Kawhi is a possibility because "WELL NO ONE THOUGHT BRON WAS COMING HERE". Id argue against that too. There was a decent amount of people who thought he was coming to the Lakers.
We have gotten 2 big names in 22 years, Shaq and Lebron.
Or we sign a generational player every 11 years... isn't that by definition how often generational players are supposed to emerge?
Nah we don't have anything. We got lucky with those guys. We have just been lucky for the last 50 years thats all.
You can make the same argument for all the Lakers legends that are around and the GM in our team. All have connections, business hook ups, and a whole lot of Laker love.
This has been proven. This is why we continue to get big names even when we have our worst years.
Clippers have no track record of anything and people are assuming that KD and Kawhi is a possibility because "WELL NO ONE THOUGHT BRON WAS COMING HERE". Id argue against that too. There was a decent amount of people who thought he was coming to the Lakers.
We have gotten 2 big names in 22 years, Shaq and Lebron.
Or we sign a generational player every 11 years... isn't that by definition how often generational players are supposed to emerge?
Akashi doesn’t want to team with KD after Kevin’s recent comments about him being a “system” player. Kawhi seems a bit emotional like that. Takes things like that personal.
You can make the same argument for all the Lakers legends that are around and the GM in our team. All have connections, business hook ups, and a whole lot of Laker love.
This has been proven. This is why we continue to get big names even when we have our worst years.
Clippers have no track record of anything and people are assuming that KD and Kawhi is a possibility because "WELL NO ONE THOUGHT BRON WAS COMING HERE". Id argue against that too. There was a decent amount of people who thought he was coming to the Lakers.
We have gotten 2 big names in 22 years, Shaq and Lebron.
Or we sign a generational player every 11 years... isn't that by definition how often generational players are supposed to emerge?
Not to mention . . . how often did we have capspace? Once we signed Shaq, we had none for 18 of those years. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:59 am Post subject:
Sentient Meat wrote:
AirTupac wrote:
I just said its hilarious that people think KD and Kawhi will both go to the fking Clippers after their 0 track record of getting anyone notable. It will all of a sudden change because they have Jerry West as a board member at 90 years old.
I don't it want to happen either... but you act like it's impossible for two superstars to want to play for a man whose wealth makes Jeanie Buss look like she's carrying around a piggy bank.
I hope all the rumors are wrong... but it's hard when they keep gaining traction with major outlets.
How does the Jeanie's vs Balmer's deep pockets make a difference in this discussion at all? If anything, the Lakers have proven to be willing to spend over the cap to win championships, thus completely nullifying this line of thought. _________________ Don't make me give you a trout slap!
I just said its hilarious that people think KD and Kawhi will both go to the fking Clippers after their 0 track record of getting anyone notable. It will all of a sudden change because they have Jerry West as a board member at 90 years old.
I don't it want to happen either... but you act like it's impossible for two superstars to want to play for a man whose wealth makes Jeanie Buss look like she's carrying around a piggy bank.
I hope all the rumors are wrong... but it's hard when they keep gaining traction with major outlets.
How does the Jeanie's vs Balmer's deep pockets make a difference in this discussion at all? If anything, the Lakers have proven to be willing to spend over the cap to win championships, thus completely nullifying this line of thought.
exactly. clippers have been garbage for so long they never had to worry about it lol
I'm happy signing Klay... and it would make for one of the greatest crosstown rivalries in sports history if the other two went to the Clippers.
Tell me that team wouldnt be a legit contender? Shooters and defenders. I can see the cohesion already
Not even sure if it would work cap-wise i assumed a few guys would settle for less to ring chase
I just don't want any players who are jacking our front office around.
If they don't want to come... f*ck them... just sign Klay instead.
KD and Kawhi are a little better... but Klay is less of a prima donna.
I'll take my chances with him... and sign AD when LBJ retires.
I’m probably in the minority when I say this but I think I’d rather have Thompson next to LeBron than Kawhi. Even tho I seriously doubt we have a chance at Kawhi anyways. Just think the fit is better
If Kawhi is set on being a #1 guy, then I agree. Kawhi would be a great #2 if he were comfortable playing that role. In the playoffs you need guys capable of generating their own offense. If he doesn't want to be #2 to Lebron, I agree Klay would be a more natural fit.
I just said its hilarious that people think KD and Kawhi will both go to the fking Clippers after their 0 track record of getting anyone notable. It will all of a sudden change because they have Jerry West as a board member at 90 years old.
I don't it want to happen either... but you act like it's impossible for two superstars to want to play for a man whose wealth makes Jeanie Buss look like she's carrying around a piggy bank.
I hope all the rumors are wrong... but it's hard when they keep gaining traction with major outlets.
How does the Jeanie's vs Balmer's deep pockets make a difference in this discussion at all? If anything, the Lakers have proven to be willing to spend over the cap to win championships, thus completely nullifying this line of thought.
Net worth means diddly squat when it comes to the numbers game in the NBA under a salary cap, how much an owner is worth only matters in a sport that has no salary cap like Soccer.
No idea why you even bring it up.
Yeah, the Lakers have a TV deal worth 200M$ a year. They've never been afraid to spend money when necessary. Who cares if Buss net worth is 30 millions or 10 bucks. She won't spend a penny from her pocket... Ballmer's money will be usefull for the Clippers when he'll build a stadium in 2024. Do Kawhi or KD really care about that ?
Isn't KD interested in working with Silicon Valley?
Maybe he'd invest, but it's not like he's working a 9-5 job. I'm sure other NBA players invest their money in Silicon Valley without having to physically be there. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Net worth means diddly squat when it comes to the numbers game in the NBA under a salary cap, how much an owner is worth only matters in a sport that has no salary cap like Soccer.
No idea why you even bring it up.
It matters when it comes to paying luxury tax. That money comes out of profits.
What's interesting to me is that other billionaire owners have fled from the luxury tax before.
Perhaps that kind of spendthrift attitude is what helped them become a billionaire in the first place? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
You can make the same argument for all the Lakers legends that are around and the GM in our team. All have connections, business hook ups, and a whole lot of Laker love.
This has been proven. This is why we continue to get big names even when we have our worst years.
Clippers have no track record of anything and people are assuming that KD and Kawhi is a possibility because "WELL NO ONE THOUGHT BRON WAS COMING HERE". Id argue against that too. There was a decent amount of people who thought he was coming to the Lakers.
We have gotten 2 big names in 22 years, Shaq and Lebron.
And we've only really had a max slot for what, 4-5 years total? Pretty nice haul. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
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