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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:06 am Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | I'm still confused. Does KCP's agent want him traded to a better situation. Is this all coming from KCP's agent. |
I think a few things:
1. KCP was the starter coming into the year and got beat out by several guys. So he knows that BI/Hart are going to start over him as they represent a long term investment for the Lakers; KCP is just a 1 year mercenary.
2. KCP/Klutch probably had this in their pocket so that he could join a team where he gets a more prominent role and can recoup some value as a 2019 FA. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Nash Vegas wrote: | Clipper’s owner has bold plans to team Kevin Durant and Kawhi Leonard
https://es.pn/2UBNus8 |
Wasn’t it just last week KD talked about Kawhi not being a good fit with LeBron and the Lakers?
Does KD already know he’s teaming up or hope to team up with Kawhi in Clipper land? _________________ Tacos |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:11 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | 32 wrote: | I'm still confused. Does KCP's agent want him traded to a better situation. Is this all coming from KCP's agent. |
I think a few things:
1. KCP was the starter coming into the year and got beat out by several guys. So he knows that BI/Hart are going to start over him as they represent a long term investment for the Lakers; KCP is just a 1 year mercenary.
2. KCP/Klutch probably had this in their pocket so that he could join a team where he gets a more prominent role and can recoup some value as a 2019 FA. |
So this whole situation hinges on Klutch finding a team to make this work. It's not an easy position for us and hopefully we don't give up to much to make it work. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:14 am Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | 32 wrote: | I'm still confused. Does KCP's agent want him traded to a better situation. Is this all coming from KCP's agent. |
I think a few things:
1. KCP was the starter coming into the year and got beat out by several guys. So he knows that BI/Hart are going to start over him as they represent a long term investment for the Lakers; KCP is just a 1 year mercenary.
2. KCP/Klutch probably had this in their pocket so that he could join a team where he gets a more prominent role and can recoup some value as a 2019 FA. |
So this whole situation hinges on Klutch finding a team to make this work. It's not an easy position for us and hopefully we don't give up to much to make it work. |
It's precisely b/c KCP probably has a wish list of teams (and ability to veto trades). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:17 am Post subject: |
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They can't trade back Knight...so what can they offer? They don't have anything. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:35 am Post subject: |
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durden-tyler wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | durden-tyler wrote: |
Thanks for the info...
Well, if he wants to build a Sillicon Valley Empire, isn't it in his best interest to stay with the Warriors ? |
Sure in terms of proximity... but Ballmer isn't a bad mentor to have either.
It just fits with the narrative. |
I have absolutely no idea how this kind of business works, but I imagine people who pay for the best seats in Oracle Arena are probably people who have influence ine the Sillicon Valley. If that's what KD is really about, I just don't see any reason for him to go to the Clippers. But Durant's brain is hard to comprehend, so I don't know what's driving him... |
He already has Iggy to facilitate those introductions. Iggy is well connected. |
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drae Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Kawhi could possibly go to the Clippers, but I still think he's most likely to stay in Toronto. Firstly he's bought a house in Toronto. Secondly they're already a contender. Thirdly Durant ticked him off.
Durant could possibly team up with Kawhi but I don't see it as likely. Firstly if he wants to repair his legacy, teaming up with Lebron or Kawhi is not the way to do it. Secondly if he wants chips he'd stay in Golden State and force GWS to make Draymond leave. I still think the Knicks get Durant. Thirdly he ticked off Kawhi. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Worth noting:
Quote: | Eric Pincus
@EricPincus
Feels like it's thrown around loosely that the Clippers have 2 max salary slots this summer. That's not accurate as is. They project to have ~$58 mil w/Gallinari, Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson. The Kawhi max is ~$33 mil, KD max ~$38 mil - probably need out of Gallo to get there |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Worth noting:
Quote: | Eric Pincus
@EricPincus
Feels like it's thrown around loosely that the Clippers have 2 max salary slots this summer. That's not accurate as is. They project to have ~$58 mil w/Gallinari, Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson. The Kawhi max is ~$33 mil, KD max ~$38 mil - probably need out of Gallo to get there |
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Jalen Rose mentioned the Nets and the Knicks are also both trying to get Durant and Kawhi and he doesn't know why the Clippers get all the attention |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Worth noting:
Quote: | Eric Pincus
@EricPincus
Feels like it's thrown around loosely that the Clippers have 2 max salary slots this summer. That's not accurate as is. They project to have ~$58 mil w/Gallinari, Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson. The Kawhi max is ~$33 mil, KD max ~$38 mil - probably need out of Gallo to get there |
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The fact that they will still have the other four is scary. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Worth noting:
Quote: | Eric Pincus
@EricPincus
Feels like it's thrown around loosely that the Clippers have 2 max salary slots this summer. That's not accurate as is. They project to have ~$58 mil w/Gallinari, Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson. The Kawhi max is ~$33 mil, KD max ~$38 mil - probably need out of Gallo to get there |
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The fact that they will still have the other four is scary. |
Those guys scare you? I think LBJ scares others more. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Worth noting:
Quote: | Eric Pincus
@EricPincus
Feels like it's thrown around loosely that the Clippers have 2 max salary slots this summer. That's not accurate as is. They project to have ~$58 mil w/Gallinari, Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson. The Kawhi max is ~$33 mil, KD max ~$38 mil - probably need out of Gallo to get there |
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The fact that they will still have the other four is scary. |
Those guys scare you? I think LBJ scares others more. |
You don't think KD/Kawhi with those four is a scary core? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Worth noting:
Quote: | Eric Pincus
@EricPincus
Feels like it's thrown around loosely that the Clippers have 2 max salary slots this summer. That's not accurate as is. They project to have ~$58 mil w/Gallinari, Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson. The Kawhi max is ~$33 mil, KD max ~$38 mil - probably need out of Gallo to get there |
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The fact that they will still have the other four is scary. |
Those guys scare you? I think LBJ scares others more. |
You don't think KD/Kawhi with those four is a scary core? |
And if you add KD or KL with LBJ and our core, that isn't scary either? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Worth noting:
Quote: | Eric Pincus
@EricPincus
Feels like it's thrown around loosely that the Clippers have 2 max salary slots this summer. That's not accurate as is. They project to have ~$58 mil w/Gallinari, Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson. The Kawhi max is ~$33 mil, KD max ~$38 mil - probably need out of Gallo to get there |
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The fact that they will still have the other four is scary. |
Those guys scare you? I think LBJ scares others more. |
You don't think KD/Kawhi with those four is a scary core? |
I think we can build a core competitive with them even if they get those two. Why do you have to be scared? The victories are sweeter when they are tough man. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson |
BI/Lonzo/Hart/Kuz
It's not as if those 4 Clips are overwhelmingly better than our young 4. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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chantruong wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Worth noting:
Quote: | Eric Pincus
@EricPincus
Feels like it's thrown around loosely that the Clippers have 2 max salary slots this summer. That's not accurate as is. They project to have ~$58 mil w/Gallinari, Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson. The Kawhi max is ~$33 mil, KD max ~$38 mil - probably need out of Gallo to get there |
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The fact that they will still have the other four is scary. |
Those guys scare you? I think LBJ scares others more. |
You don't think KD/Kawhi with those four is a scary core? |
I think we can build a core competitive with them even if they get those two. Why do you have to be scared? The victories are sweeter when they are tough man. |
Oh, I still think we can win... but I thought they'd need to gut their team more.
As we discussed earlier... Klay would fit quite nicely if those two teamed us against us. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: | Lou, Harrell, Shai, Robinson |
BI/Lonzo/Hart/Kuz
It's not as if those 4 Clips are overwhelmingly better than our young 4. |
We need to get Klay/Khris/Kemba or even Tobias locked down as the second.
With a high quality second tier agent... yes we can still defeat them |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Jeanie's probably getting some advice. You don't replace an improving young coach with a 73 year old dude (74 next year) who could coach possibly 2 more years. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Jeanie and Phil getting back together?
Rambis offering love advice? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Phil cant get enough of that Jeanie |
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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since Clips have Yoda West, we are trying to bring in Obi Wan Kenobi Phil. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Anyone else think a back-up PF might be the next target for the Lakers when the buyout market starts to happen? _________________ Coach MWP. |
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