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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Does anyone know rather KCP’s no trade clause will still exist during the off season? |
We ain’t trading Casey P.
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Right .. the 'AD + stretch 5" variation that we have not had in our arsenal.
| yinoma2001 wrote: | AD is probably our best Kawhi defender in crunch time. But we didn't have a non-offensive clogging big man to throw at Trez/Morris...now we have a Morris.  |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Does anyone know rather KCP’s no trade clause will still exist during the off season? |
once he opts in I believe it will not |
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AFireInside619
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | If we sign Dion Waiters and we bring him back next year it gives us flexibility to involve guys like Danny Green in trade talks during the off season. |
After this season Danny should be shipped to Texas. There’s plenty of ways to spend that 15m.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| ThePageDude wrote: | Right .. the 'AD + stretch 5" variation that we have not had in our arsenal.
| yinoma2001 wrote: | | AD is probably our best Kawhi defender in crunch time. But we didn't have a non-offensive clogging big man to throw at Trez/Morris...now we have a Morris. |
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Can’t wait. And it won’t be lumbering Boogie.
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Is Morris a stretch 5? I thought he'd be more of a 3/4 than a 4/5, especially with AD in the lineup.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| ThePageDude wrote: | Right .. the 'AD + stretch 5" variation that we have not had in our arsenal.
| yinoma2001 wrote: | | AD is probably our best Kawhi defender in crunch time. But we didn't have a non-offensive clogging big man to throw at Trez/Morris...now we have a Morris. |
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And Kuz just gets destroyed by big PFs so yeah.
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| epic_ wrote: | | Is Morris a stretch 5? I thought he'd be more of a 3/4 than a 4/5, especially with AD in the lineup. |
Markieff is a 4/5. His twin is a 3/4.
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| epic_ wrote: | | Is Morris a stretch 5? I thought he'd be more of a 3/4 than a 4/5, especially with AD in the lineup. |
A stretch PF. But remember Clips will run Trez at "center" so Keef would be a good matchup and on offense he could help keep Trez out on the perimeter clearing up that clutter inside.
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | If we sign Dion Waiters and we bring him back next year it gives us flexibility to involve guys like Danny Green in trade talks during the off season. |
After this season Danny should be shipped to Texas. There’s plenty of ways to spend that 15m. |
I’m gonna wait until the playoffs, If he keeps playing this way then maybe we could trade him to 1 of the TX teams or to the Raptors. |
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| I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him
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| alleyoop wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him |
Who knows. He will also be 33 next year on an expiring. So he will have to be the salary ballast for the team to find a 3rd guy alongside LBJ/AD.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Is Morris a stretch 5? I thought he'd be more of a 3/4 than a 4/5, especially with AD in the lineup. |
Markieff is a 4/5. His twin is a 3/4. |
| yinoma2001 wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Is Morris a stretch 5? I thought he'd be more of a 3/4 than a 4/5, especially with AD in the lineup. |
A stretch PF. But remember Clips will run Trez at "center" so Keef would be a good matchup and on offense he could help keep Trez out on the perimeter clearing up that clutter inside. |
Hmm.
I need to see it in action before deciding if it'll work or not.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him |
Who knows. He will also be 33 next year on an expiring. So he will have to be the salary ballast for the team to find a 3rd guy alongside LBJ/AD. |
He wins a chip in Los Angeles, then we package him for Zach Lavine this summer.
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| epic_ wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Is Morris a stretch 5? I thought he'd be more of a 3/4 than a 4/5, especially with AD in the lineup. |
Markieff is a 4/5. His twin is a 3/4. |
| yinoma2001 wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Is Morris a stretch 5? I thought he'd be more of a 3/4 than a 4/5, especially with AD in the lineup. |
A stretch PF. But remember Clips will run Trez at "center" so Keef would be a good matchup and on offense he could help keep Trez out on the perimeter clearing up that clutter inside. |
Hmm.
I need to see it in action before deciding if it'll work or not. |
That's been his role. As people pointed out his brother is more of a 3/4. But his ability to shoot the 3 and bang with guys like Trez will be helpful for us.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him |
Who knows. He will also be 33 next year on an expiring. So he will have to be the salary ballast for the team to find a 3rd guy alongside LBJ/AD. |
He wins a chip in Los Angeles, then we package him for Zach Lavine this summer. |
I still doubt Green/Kuz/1st is enough of a package for LaVine, even if we add Caruso and THT I doubt they accept
They'll want a relatively high pick in this year's draft IMO
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| alleyoop wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him |
Who knows. He will also be 33 next year on an expiring. So he will have to be the salary ballast for the team to find a 3rd guy alongside LBJ/AD. |
He wins a chip in Los Angeles, then we package him for Zach Lavine this summer. |
I still doubt Green/Kuz/1st is enough of a package for LaVine, even if we add Caruso and THT I doubt they accept
They'll want a relatively high pick in this year's draft IMO |
Absolutely...no way that package gets LaVine...In fact, we don't have any type of package that would satisfy Chicago...excluding AD and Bron. |
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| King Randle wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him |
Who knows. He will also be 33 next year on an expiring. So he will have to be the salary ballast for the team to find a 3rd guy alongside LBJ/AD. |
He wins a chip in Los Angeles, then we package him for Zach Lavine this summer. |
I still doubt Green/Kuz/1st is enough of a package for LaVine, even if we add Caruso and THT I doubt they accept
They'll want a relatively high pick in this year's draft IMO |
Absolutely...no way that package gets LaVine...In fact, we don't have any type of package that would satisfy Chicago...excluding AD and Bron. |
The only guy I can see us potentially getting for that package is Dinwiddie. Green and Kuz would be solid fits next to KD and Kyrie, and both would help them 'win now'
That kind of trade would be mutually beneficial IMO
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| alleyoop wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him |
Who knows. He will also be 33 next year on an expiring. So he will have to be the salary ballast for the team to find a 3rd guy alongside LBJ/AD. |
He wins a chip in Los Angeles, then we package him for Zach Lavine this summer. |
I still doubt Green/Kuz/1st is enough of a package for LaVine, even if we add Caruso and THT I doubt they accept
They'll want a relatively high pick in this year's draft IMO |
Absolutely...no way that package gets LaVine...In fact, we don't have any type of package that would satisfy Chicago...excluding AD and Bron. |
The only guy I can see us potentially getting for that package is Dinwiddie. Green and Kuz would be solid fits next to KD and Kyrie, and both would help them 'win now'
That kind of trade would be mutually beneficial IMO |
Much more doable. |
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honestly I think I'd rather have dinwiddie than lavine anyway, considering salaries
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The 4 vs 5 labels for AD/Markieff is misleaing; I was using "stretch 5" more as an overall small-ball notion than a specific position designation.
As you said, on offense Markieff will often spot up and help clear the lane for AD and/or Lebron. AD gets to be the primary offensive-rebounder.
On defense he'll defend the oppositions more traditional (i.e. closer to the basket) big. AD, due to his size and mobility will take the other big that's either more mobile or better shooting, or both; alternatively he could also try to contain bigger wings like Kawhi.
At least that's the hope and if it works it could occasionally be our death lineup, fingers crossed.
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That's been his role. As people pointed out his brother is more of a 3/4. But his ability to shoot the 3 and bang with guys like Trez will be helpful for us. |
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| alleyoop wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him |
Who knows. He will also be 33 next year on an expiring. So he will have to be the salary ballast for the team to find a 3rd guy alongside LBJ/AD. |
He wins a chip in Los Angeles, then we package him for Zach Lavine this summer. |
I still doubt Green/Kuz/1st is enough of a package for LaVine, even if we add Caruso and THT I doubt they accept
They'll want a relatively high pick in this year's draft IMO |
Kuzma becomes a restricted free agent after next year. People need to get over the notion that he is some super-cheap asset that other teams are pining to get. His career has trended downward from his rookie season. |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Does anyone know rather KCP’s no trade clause will still exist during the off season? |
We ain’t trading Casey P. |
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KCP is playing like the way we thought he would when we signed him.
I think with bron and Ad on the team he doesn't haft to over think he just plays. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him |
Who knows. He will also be 33 next year on an expiring. So he will have to be the salary ballast for the team to find a 3rd guy alongside LBJ/AD. |
He wins a chip in Los Angeles, then we package him for Zach Lavine this summer. |
I still doubt Green/Kuz/1st is enough of a package for LaVine, even if we add Caruso and THT I doubt they accept
They'll want a relatively high pick in this year's draft IMO |
Kuzma becomes a restricted free agent after next year. People need to get over the notion that he is some super-cheap asset that other teams are pining to get. His career has trended downward from his rookie season. |
Wish we could have kept Ball and sent put Kuz
I think kuz will put it together in the playoffs. Teams will game plan on Bron and AD. Kuzz should be able to go off |
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