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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:13 pm    Post subject:

Mamba81 wrote:
buy or sell:
zach lavine is the closest thing we've seen in comparison to young kobe

frame, athleticism, range and excitement


I see more Kobe in Tatum then I do with LaVine.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:14 pm    Post subject:

Mamba81 wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Mamba81 wrote:
buy or sell:
zach lavine is the closest thing we've seen in comparison to young kobe

frame, athleticism, range and excitement


Sell.
I dont see the footwork, the skillset nor the defense.
But he does get buckets


in terms of the whole package he seems like the closest comparison. his size, his ball handling ability, high scoring, dunking, shooting range etc.

since you sell on him being the closest comparison to a young kobe, who would you say is the closest comparison? in terms of everything. from body to athleticism to play style.


Hm. That's a good question. The game is so different now with the 3 ball being so prevalent. Kobe only had a 3PAr over 30% twice.
But I'd go with Paul George?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:17 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
Mamba81 wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Mamba81 wrote:
buy or sell:
zach lavine is the closest thing we've seen in comparison to young kobe

frame, athleticism, range and excitement


Sell.
I dont see the footwork, the skillset nor the defense.
But he does get buckets


in terms of the whole package he seems like the closest comparison. his size, his ball handling ability, high scoring, dunking, shooting range etc.

since you sell on him being the closest comparison to a young kobe, who would you say is the closest comparison? in terms of everything. from body to athleticism to play style.


Hm. That's a good question.
Paul George?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:17 pm    Post subject:

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Mamba81 wrote:
buy or sell:
zach lavine is the closest thing we've seen in comparison to young kobe

frame, athleticism, range and excitement


I see more Kobe in Tatum then I do with LaVine.


i dont. lavine seems more comparable to a young kobe than tatum. tatum is too big and lacks the explosiveness
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:18 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
Mamba81 wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Mamba81 wrote:
buy or sell:
zach lavine is the closest thing we've seen in comparison to young kobe

frame, athleticism, range and excitement


Sell.
I dont see the footwork, the skillset nor the defense.
But he does get buckets


in terms of the whole package he seems like the closest comparison. his size, his ball handling ability, high scoring, dunking, shooting range etc.

since you sell on him being the closest comparison to a young kobe, who would you say is the closest comparison? in terms of everything. from body to athleticism to play style.


Hm. That's a good question. The game is so different now with the 3 ball being so prevalent. Kobe only had a 3PAr over 30% twice.
But I'd go with Paul George?


i cant say paul. too big and slow
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:19 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Mamba81 wrote:
buy or sell:
zach lavine is the closest thing we've seen in comparison to young kobe

frame, athleticism, range and excitement


I see more Kobe in Tatum then I do with LaVine.


Thought the same exact thing for 3 quarters when I was watching the game on Sunday. Diff between mamba and the rest is that Tatum took foot off the gas in the 4th.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:20 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Mamba81 wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Mamba81 wrote:
buy or sell:
zach lavine is the closest thing we've seen in comparison to young kobe

frame, athleticism, range and excitement


Sell.
I dont see the footwork, the skillset nor the defense.
But he does get buckets


in terms of the whole package he seems like the closest comparison. his size, his ball handling ability, high scoring, dunking, shooting range etc.

since you sell on him being the closest comparison to a young kobe, who would you say is the closest comparison? in terms of everything. from body to athleticism to play style.


Hm. That's a good question. The game is so different now with the 3 ball being so prevalent. Kobe only had a 3PAr over 30% twice.
But I'd go with Paul George?




I know it's fun to dog on Kawhi and PG and anything Clippers. Cuz I'm all for it. Haha. But a healthy PG would probably be the closest IMO.
Who would you peg for the spot if trying to answer OP's question of "closest comparison?"
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:20 pm    Post subject:

thats y i say you gotta take into account everything when determining the closest comparison (which still wont be very close) once you say a 6'9" guy thats immediately disqualified!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:22 pm    Post subject:

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thats y i say you gotta take into account everything when determining the closest comparison (which still wont be very close) once you say a 6'9" guy thats immediately disqualified!!


Yea, I like Tatum's footwork and mentality.
But he doesn't have the grace that a smaller Kobe had.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:24 pm    Post subject:

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But a healthy PG would probably be the closest IMO.




People need to stop trying to compare people with Kobe. Every year it's another player and every year that player falls woefully short.

Remember when everyone said Kyrie is the embodiment of Kobe? Sure playstyle he kinda is, but mentally? Not even close.

And speaking of mental deficiencies ... *looks at Paul George*

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:27 pm    Post subject:

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But a healthy PG would probably be the closest IMO.




People need to stop trying to compare people with Kobe. Every year it's another player and every year that player falls woefully short.

Remember when everyone said Kyrie is the embodiment of Kobe? Sure playstyle he kinda is, but mentally? Not even close.

And speaking of mental deficiencies ... *looks at Paul George*



Bruh. Of course it's riculous.
But OP asked the question.
If you got nothing to add, then just skip the question man.

I should have taken that advice myself haha.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:30 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
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But a healthy PG would probably be the closest IMO.




People need to stop trying to compare people with Kobe. Every year it's another player and every year that player falls woefully short.

Remember when everyone said Kyrie is the embodiment of Kobe? Sure playstyle he kinda is, but mentally? Not even close.

And speaking of mental deficiencies ... *looks at Paul George*



yea i want to apologize first and foremost let it be known nobody can truly be compared to kobe. thats one of a kind. all i was thinking is who would be considered the closest that you could draw the most similarities from. we know kobe had the whole package so cus of that nobody can come close, i was just thinking is there anybody that kinda reminds you on the court from the visual test. i thought of lavine(who is damn sure not kobe and will never be) being someone who kinda reminds me at times.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:34 pm    Post subject:

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drae wrote:
epic_ wrote:
But a healthy PG would probably be the closest IMO.




People need to stop trying to compare people with Kobe. Every year it's another player and every year that player falls woefully short.

Remember when everyone said Kyrie is the embodiment of Kobe? Sure playstyle he kinda is, but mentally? Not even close.

And speaking of mental deficiencies ... *looks at Paul George*



Bruh. Of course it's riculous.
But OP asked the question.
If you got nothing to add, then just skip the question man.

I should have taken that advice myself haha.


i hope nobody ever forgets how incredible he was. imo easily the most spectacular player of all time. the way he could get so hot and just kill you from the perimeter, then go in and dunk on you, then shut down other team's best player, then do something crazy like hit a 40 foot fallaway 3, or shot over the backboard, or left handed corner 3. just amazing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCiLuE2twKk
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:37 pm    Post subject:

my bad i aint mean to derail this thread. just mourning.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:41 pm    Post subject:

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my bad i aint mean to derail this thread. just mourning.


Nah it's cool Probably everyone is still mourning right now

Pete's twitter feed has been like ... weeks of mourning and nostalgia.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:43 pm    Post subject:

Kobe = Godzilla
Kawhi = MechaGodzilla
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:51 pm    Post subject:

Lavine is an athletic freak who doesn't affect actual wins. He plays no defense either.

So basically, if Kobe is a car, you have like 30% of the components.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:53 pm    Post subject:

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Lavine is an athletic freak who doesn't affect actual wins. He plays no defense either.

So basically, if Kobe is a car, you have like 30% of the components.


lol hell yea. hes talented for sure but imagine him 1 on 1 vs locked in prime kobe. good luck scoring kid.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:02 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Lavine is an athletic freak who doesn't affect actual wins. He plays no defense either.


It is possible that Lavine will start to figure it out at some point. I felt the same way about TMac at one point, but he started to figure it out around the middle of his career, just before the injuries derailed him.
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Lavine is an athletic freak who doesn't affect actual wins. He plays no defense either.


It is possible that Lavine will start to figure it out at some point. I felt the same way about TMac at one point, but he started to figure it out around the middle of his career, just before the injuries derailed him.


He has all the athletic tools to be a good defender. Just no effort or care on that end. Is that correctable? Maybe. Maybe not.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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Lavine is an athletic freak who doesn't affect actual wins. He plays no defense either.


It is possible that Lavine will start to figure it out at some point. I felt the same way about TMac at one point, but he started to figure it out around the middle of his career, just before the injuries derailed him.


Very true...I remember there was talk back in the day of trading Glen Rice for TMac when he was in Toronto...I loved Rice and was opposed. Instead that off season they traded Rice in a 4 way to NY that netted us Horace Grant. Just think if we would have landed TMac with Kobe and Shaq...OMG!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:10 pm    Post subject:

Kawhi is the closest to Kobe. Still very far away offensively, skill wise.

Big LaVine fan. I believe in his development. At the height of his career he will be a top 10 player in this league. But that man ain't no Kobe.

Things he lacks: Footwork(Kobe is the GOAT), post game, mid range, passing. Defense(Kobe was the best in the league when dialed in).

What Kobe did, what he was, it's a lost art. Nowadays guys are content with just being able to shoot it well.

I'm so disappointed we didn't draft LaVine. I think he's the closest to Kobe in the league when it comes to work ethic. Could have used the direction.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:16 pm    Post subject:

kawhi is not very comparable imo. for one he load manages.. kobe got hurt a lot and still played thru it cus he was tough as (bleep). kawhi dont have the explosiveness or deep range. hes fundamentally sound but not even close to the same excitement
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:19 pm    Post subject:

vasashi17+ wrote:
I think we need to cut out all the LeGM talk for at least his tenure here in LA. I mean anybody in their right mind would trade for AD, so I doubt Bron forced management into that position. I think Bron/Klutch did want Kidd...but only after Lue wasn’t happening.

So no Lue, no Melo, no trade for Cp3 (which endangers the Giannis 2021 plan where klutch klients Bron and/or AD have to sacrifice their max to get it done), no trade for Tristan and now no call for JR.

https://i.imgur.com/8JXfk8b.jpg


HOLY SMOKE!!!

I actually agree with your post - is this April 1?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:22 pm    Post subject:

THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER KOBE.
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