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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:46 pm    Post subject:

Now the Lakers are asking senior officials to defer 20% of their salaries
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:43 am    Post subject:

Looks like the Jazz are ready to break up the Gobert-Mitchell Tandem with the relationship looking bleak between both.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:45 am    Post subject:

If I have to guess I think the Jazz look to move Gobert
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:09 am    Post subject:

JULIUS RANDLE
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According to Marc Berman of the New York Post, Knicks president Leon Rose "is certainly open to either dealing [Julius] Randle or not executing his contract option for the 2021-22 season."
Berman reporter earlier this month that some Knicks were "frustrated by Randle’s penchant for not distributing the ball quickly enough and overdribbling." Despite solid statistics (averaging 19.5 points per game and 9.7 rebounds per game). Randle is the only player in the NBA this season averaging more than 15 FG attempts per game, yet shooting below 47% from the floor and below 30% from 3-point territory.

SOURCE: New York Post
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:26 pm    Post subject:

The off season has a chance to have a big movement in terms of trades

Bradley Beal
Zach LaVine
DeMar DeRozan
Nikola Vucevic
Julius Randle
Spencer Dinwiddie
Myles Turner
CJ McCollum

Probably a lot more I did not mention for players who might get traded in the summer
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:29 am    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1250833657008439296?s=21

NCAA crumbling, 5 star recruits starting to de-commit...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:16 am    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1250833657008439296?s=21

NCAA crumbling, 5 star recruits starting to de-commit...

What a big move by the NBA to do this and still pay for your education whenever you do want to go to school.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:08 pm    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1250833657008439296?s=21

NCAA crumbling, 5 star recruits starting to de-commit...


I went to the link and my biggest takeaway was Jordan and his comment in the Hawks’ locker room. That man was such a bad ass!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:17 pm    Post subject:

What can the lakers get this summer with some package of these pieces:

Danny Green. $15M
Kuzma. $3.5M
2020 1st round pick (likely 29th pick)
Avery Bradley (if he opts in). $5M
Mcgee (if he opts in). $4.2M
Caruso $2.75M
Talen Horton Tucker $1.5M

Potential guys:
Fournier
Schroeder
Eric Gordon
Satoransky
PJ Tucker/RoCo (depending what happens to Hou)
Rose
JJ Reddick
Bledsoe
Josh Richardson

Less reasonable, but would be great 3rd scorers:
Buddy Hield
Zach Lavine
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:25 am    Post subject:

The first round pick might have some value but I don’t think that the other assets have much value. We need to score big with the MLE but I can see it being used on an older, Lebron buddy type of player. A drop in the cap might make things interesting.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:17 pm    Post subject:

nzahir wrote:
What can the lakers get this summer with some package of these pieces:

Danny Green. $15M
Kuzma. $3.5M
2020 1st round pick (likely 29th pick)
Avery Bradley (if he opts in). $5M
Mcgee (if he opts in). $4.2M
Caruso $2.75M
Talen Horton Tucker $1.5M

Potential guys:
Fournier
Schroeder
Eric Gordon
Satoransky
PJ Tucker/RoCo (depending what happens to Hou)
Rose
JJ Reddick
Bledsoe
Josh Richardson

Less reasonable, but would be great 3rd scorers:
Buddy Hield
Zach Lavine


No Dinwiddie? I would call it very likely that we try to acquire him this summer.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:24 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
nzahir wrote:
What can the lakers get this summer with some package of these pieces:

Danny Green. $15M
Kuzma. $3.5M
2020 1st round pick (likely 29th pick)
Avery Bradley (if he opts in). $5M
Mcgee (if he opts in). $4.2M
Caruso $2.75M
Talen Horton Tucker $1.5M

Potential guys:
Fournier
Schroeder
Eric Gordon
Satoransky
PJ Tucker/RoCo (depending what happens to Hou)
Rose
JJ Reddick
Bledsoe
Josh Richardson

Less reasonable, but would be great 3rd scorers:
Buddy Hield
Zach Lavine


No Dinwiddie? I would call it very likely that we try to acquire him this summer.

Very Likely?? Why do you say that

I also don't love him as a fit, not a good 3 point shooter or defender. I don't even think they would take what we have

I forgot about Kyle Lowry, TOR may want to pay FVV and have max space for Giannis in 2021.

KCP 14M sign and trade, Mcgee if he opts in, Cook, Rondo, THT, and our 1st

Lowry, DG, Lebron, AD, Dwight (bring back for the min)
Caruso, Avery (if he opts in), MLE on a versatile 2/3/4, Kuzma, Boogie for the min?

More vet min guys
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:44 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
nzahir wrote:
What can the lakers get this summer with some package of these pieces:

Danny Green. $15M
Kuzma. $3.5M
2020 1st round pick (likely 29th pick)
Avery Bradley (if he opts in). $5M
Mcgee (if he opts in). $4.2M
Caruso $2.75M
Talen Horton Tucker $1.5M

Potential guys:
Fournier
Schroeder
Eric Gordon
Satoransky
PJ Tucker/RoCo (depending what happens to Hou)
Rose
JJ Reddick
Bledsoe
Josh Richardson

Less reasonable, but would be great 3rd scorers:
Buddy Hield
Zach Lavine


No Dinwiddie? I would call it very likely that we try to acquire him this summer.


Looking back at our roster I am not sure what we have that Brooklyn wants. Just as I’m not sure that Dinwiddie would be a good fit here.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:33 pm    Post subject:

Buddy Hield. Makes too much sense. Klay-lite.

I've been saying it.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:51 pm    Post subject:

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Buddy Hield. Makes too much sense. Klay-lite.

I've been saying it.

He’s making 24 mill a year who would we give up?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:19 pm    Post subject:

dcastillo wrote:
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Buddy Hield. Makes too much sense. Klay-lite.

I've been saying it.

He’s making 24 mill a year who would we give up?


Danny Green makes enough that we can get a deal done if the Kings are interested but other teams can beat our offer.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:06 am    Post subject:

dcastillo wrote:
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Buddy Hield. Makes too much sense. Klay-lite.

I've been saying it.

He’s making 24 mill a year who would we give up?

KCP sign and trade for his max of 14M 1 yr (175% of his current salary)
Mcgee if he opts in
Kuzma
Our 1st rounder

Hield, DG, Lebron, AD, Dwight
Caruso, Avery, MLE on a wing, Kieff on min?, Boogie on min?
Rondo, Cook, THT, vets

If we can't do KCP sign and trade, then just sign him back and trade Danny to a 3rd team for value

Edit: May be an overpay looking back at this. Buddy is a good player, and a great fit, but his defense has been very bad this season and he is getting paid a good amount.

But he is a legit #3 scorer and a great shooter. If we could keep our 1st and include THT or a 2nd, that may be better.

Try to use the 1st for another small piece?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:30 am    Post subject:

The mythical KCP market. I doubt that teams have him on their wish list.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:46 pm    Post subject:

dcastillo wrote:
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Buddy Hield. Makes too much sense. Klay-lite.

I've been saying it.

He’s making 24 mill a year who would we give up?


Danny Green and Kuz.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:54 pm    Post subject:

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The mythical KCP market. I doubt that teams have him on their wish list.


Pretty sure most people don't believe the market for KCP is very high it's about making salaries work.. He's a solid role player but beyond that the above trade would be about the first and Kuzma. I highly doubt the Kings trade to us though unless we have a clear cut best package and i'm sure a few other teams would match/surpass our output.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:03 pm    Post subject:

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The mythical KCP market. I doubt that teams have him on their wish list.


Pretty sure most people don't believe the market for KCP is very high it's about making salaries work.. He's a solid role player but beyond that the above trade would be about the first and Kuzma. I highly doubt the Kings trade to us though unless we have a clear cut best package and i'm sure a few other teams would match/surpass our output.


My guess is Kuz, a low first round pick, and salary filler isn't the best offer they'll get.

My sense is the shine has gone off of Kuz. He's never improved from his rookie season, and he comes off his rookie contract in one more year.

His value has a trade chip might have passed.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:34 pm    Post subject:

Kuz's value is garbage right now. Why would a team want:

-A terrible 3 point shooter who's regressed each year

-A terrible, inconsistent defender.

-A player who's shown he can't be the 3rd guy next to stars so far.

-Someone coming off a year with career lows in almost every category.

-Someone who doesn't have much "potential" given his age.

-Someone going into the last year of his rookie contract, which means a decision has to be made soon on whether to pay him or not.

With the rest of our assets, I don't see how a kuz-centered package will get us anything of high value at the moment. Players like dinwiddie already seem out of the question, let alone the likes of hield, lavine etc.

Bogdanovic and Morris are names we heard attached to Kuzma this trade deadline. That's the kind of value we should be thinking off when coming up with realistic trade scenarios for him.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:27 pm    Post subject:

dabask11 wrote:
Kuz's value is garbage right now. Why would a team want:

-A terrible 3 point shooter who's regressed each year

-A terrible, inconsistent defender.

-A player who's shown he can't be the 3rd guy next to stars so far.

-Someone coming off a year with career lows in almost every category.

-Someone who doesn't have much "potential" given his age.

-Someone going into the last year of his rookie contract, which means a decision has to be made soon on whether to pay him or not.

With the rest of our assets, I don't see how a kuz-centered package will get us anything of high value at the moment. Players like dinwiddie already seem out of the question, let alone the likes of hield, lavine etc.

Bogdanovic and Morris are names we heard attached to Kuzma this trade deadline. That's the kind of value we should be thinking off when coming up with realistic trade scenarios for him.


I guess we'll find out his actual value if and when he's traded. Right now just seems that people are fantasizing about trading him in deals that exist only in their imagination.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:59 am    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
dabask11 wrote:
Kuz's value is garbage right now. Why would a team want:

-A terrible 3 point shooter who's regressed each year

-A terrible, inconsistent defender.

-A player who's shown he can't be the 3rd guy next to stars so far.

-Someone coming off a year with career lows in almost every category.

-Someone who doesn't have much "potential" given his age.

-Someone going into the last year of his rookie contract, which means a decision has to be made soon on whether to pay him or not.

With the rest of our assets, I don't see how a kuz-centered package will get us anything of high value at the moment. Players like dinwiddie already seem out of the question, let alone the likes of hield, lavine etc.

Bogdanovic and Morris are names we heard attached to Kuzma this trade deadline. That's the kind of value we should be thinking off when coming up with realistic trade scenarios for him.


I guess we'll find out his actual value if and when he's traded. Right now just seems that people are fantasizing about trading him in deals that exist only in their imagination.


As I said earlier, bogdanovic-type players are the ones we can realistically expect from a kuz package at this point. There's always a chance Rob proves otherwise but that seems unlikely given what he's shown so far + our record/roster.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:02 am    Post subject:

dabask11 wrote:

As I said earlier, bogdanovic-type players are the ones we can realistically expect from a kuz package at this point. There's always a chance Rob proves otherwise but that seems unlikely given what he's shown so far + our record/roster.


According to reports, the Kings had no interest in a Kuz for Bogdanovic deal (and they might also prefer to keep Bogdanovic over Buddy). So I really have no idea what deals are realistic for Kuz at this point.
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