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dcarter4kobe
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Don't think we have the parts for LaVine.
Realistic trade targets would be Dinwiddie/D.Rose and possibly A.Gordon or Van Vleet/Gallo,Millsap,Ibaka on the sign and trade market. |
Van Vleet is the only one that would improve our perimeter shooting. He would fit really well. We could try to get him via sign and trade? Kuzma, Caruso and Green for Van Vleet? |
LOL that much for a ufa
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Still nowhere near enough |
Would depend on what Van Vleet wants. If he says he’s leaving, I’m sure Toronto would be willing to play ball to pick up assets
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dcarter4kobe
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| scoobs wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Don't think we have the parts for LaVine.
Realistic trade targets would be Dinwiddie/D.Rose and possibly A.Gordon or Van Vleet/Gallo,Millsap,Ibaka on the sign and trade market. |
Van Vleet is the only one that would improve our perimeter shooting. He would fit really well. We could try to get him via sign and trade? Kuzma, Caruso and Green for Van Vleet? |
He’s an UFA. I wouldn’t give up that much since he would have leverage. I would only offer exp k+1st (McGee/Bradley/Cook)
By the way Gallo/Millsap/Ibaka are all outside threats. Especially Gallo |
You are correct. But, doesn't Gallo play the same position as Lebron? Ibaka or Milsap as a stretch 5? |
AD/Dwight
Gallo/Kuz
LeBron/Harkless
DG/KCP
Caruso/JC or Dragic
Ibaka(Millsap)/Dwight
AD/Kuz
LeBron/Harkless
DG/KCP
Caruso/JC or Dragic
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Jesusdelonla
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Don't think we have the parts for LaVine.
Realistic trade targets would be Dinwiddie/D.Rose and possibly A.Gordon or Van Vleet/Gallo,Millsap,Ibaka on the sign and trade market. |
Van Vleet is the only one that would improve our perimeter shooting. He would fit really well. We could try to get him via sign and trade? Kuzma, Caruso and Green for Van Vleet? |
LOL that much for a ufa
Smh |
Still nowhere near enough |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Don't think we have the parts for LaVine.
Realistic trade targets would be Dinwiddie/D.Rose and possibly A.Gordon or Van Vleet/Gallo,Millsap,Ibaka on the sign and trade market. |
Van Vleet is the only one that would improve our perimeter shooting. He would fit really well. We could try to get him via sign and trade? Kuzma, Caruso and Green for Van Vleet? |
LOL that much for a ufa
Smh |
Still nowhere near enough |
Would depend on what Van Vleet wants. If he says he’s leaving, I’m sure Toronto would be willing to play ball to pick up assets |
Caruso might be an a asset, Green and Kuzma not so much. I’m pretty sure that another team could top that. I would expect that Fred wants to stay as long as he is paid. And if they don’t want to pay him then I doubt that they want to pay Green.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Don't think we have the parts for LaVine.
Realistic trade targets would be Dinwiddie/D.Rose and possibly A.Gordon or Van Vleet/Gallo,Millsap,Ibaka on the sign and trade market. |
Van Vleet is the only one that would improve our perimeter shooting. He would fit really well. We could try to get him via sign and trade? Kuzma, Caruso and Green for Van Vleet? |
LOL that much for a ufa
Smh |
Still nowhere near enough |
Would depend on what Van Vleet wants. If he says he’s leaving, I’m sure Toronto would be willing to play ball to pick up assets |
I think the Raptors would let him walk for nothing before taking on the salary of those three guys. |
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| Green, Caruso, Cook, 1st (signed) are enough salary to trade for DeRozan if he opts into his deal. Could swap Caruso for Kuzma too. Not sure that's the best fit with LeBron and Davis. But you would have a hell of a third option. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn’t mind getting DeRozan. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| He would be the perfect 3rd option on offense. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | | Green, Caruso, Cook, 1st (signed) are enough salary to trade for DeRozan if he opts into his deal. Could swap Caruso for Kuzma too. Not sure that's the best fit with LeBron and Davis. But you would have a hell of a third option. |
Unless San Antonio is absolutely in love Kuz's potential, and I can't imagine why they would be, I don't see why they would make that deal. They can work out a better sign and trade than that |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | He would be the perfect 3rd option on offense. |
Yes we need more guys who can't shoot or defend
One of the worst possible fits
I rather have DG alone, let alone other players (for salary), and any valuable assets (Kuz, 1st, AC)
If we are making a big move:
Hield, Lavine, or Lowry are some of the only guys I could see making some sense
Dinwiddie or Rose aren't great fits, but at least they have a cheap salary and we could keep DG
It is very hard to come by good 3 and d guys, not many in FA that we could get and not many available for trade |
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| We should wait and see how Kuzma does when the season resumes, he might end up being a really nice 3rd option and that would mean we wouldn’t need to trade for anyone. |
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dcarter4kobe
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| activeverb wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Don't think we have the parts for LaVine.
Realistic trade targets would be Dinwiddie/D.Rose and possibly A.Gordon or Van Vleet/Gallo,Millsap,Ibaka on the sign and trade market. |
Van Vleet is the only one that would improve our perimeter shooting. He would fit really well. We could try to get him via sign and trade? Kuzma, Caruso and Green for Van Vleet? |
LOL that much for a ufa
Smh |
Still nowhere near enough |
Would depend on what Van Vleet wants. If he says he’s leaving, I’m sure Toronto would be willing to play ball to pick up assets |
I think the Raptors would let him walk for nothing before taking on the salary of those three guys. |
McGee/AB (2 starters on a championship team  )could be flipped to a team with a cap space for a 2nd round pick. Cook is unguranteed.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Don't think we have the parts for LaVine.
Realistic trade targets would be Dinwiddie/D.Rose and possibly A.Gordon or Van Vleet/Gallo,Millsap,Ibaka on the sign and trade market. |
Van Vleet is the only one that would improve our perimeter shooting. He would fit really well. We could try to get him via sign and trade? Kuzma, Caruso and Green for Van Vleet? |
LOL that much for a ufa
Smh |
Still nowhere near enough |
Would depend on what Van Vleet wants. If he says he’s leaving, I’m sure Toronto would be willing to play ball to pick up assets |
I think the Raptors would let him walk for nothing before taking on the salary of those three guys. |
McGee/AB (2 starters on a championship team )could be flipped to a team with a cap space for a 2nd round pick. Cook is unguranteed. |
Salary cap is likely to plummet this year. There may not be many teams with cap space, and that cap space probably won't be cheap.
Anyway, this thread strikes me is the same wishful thinking you hear from fans every year. The idea that we painlessly get a star in exchange for players who we are indifferent about |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | | Green, Caruso, Cook, 1st (signed) are enough salary to trade for DeRozan if he opts into his deal. Could swap Caruso for Kuzma too. Not sure that's the best fit with LeBron and Davis. But you would have a hell of a third option. |
Unless San Antonio is absolutely in love Kuz's potential, and I can't imagine why they would be, I don't see why they would make that deal. They can work out a better sign and trade than that |
That very well could be true. But DRoz is about to be 31 and is going to be looking for his last big deal. With a career 28% from deep on 1.5 attempts, he's probably a really high level 3rd option, or an expensive 2nd option. He makes $27.7M next year, if he opts in and will be looking to get paid. What is the market for that in today's NBA? |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | He would be the perfect 3rd option on offense. |
still cant shoot a 3. how many years he has he been in the league? |
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DeMar is a terrible fit.
Even as a 6th man role, I'd much prefer Clarkson at the MLE. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | He would be the perfect 3rd option on offense. |
still cant shoot a 3. how many years he has he been in the league? |
11, and counting |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | DeMar is a terrible fit.
Even as a 6th man role, I'd much prefer Clarkson at the MLE. |
They're both terrible options.
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That very well could be true. But DRoz is about to be 31 and is going to be looking for his last big deal. With a career 28% from deep on 1.5 attempts, he's probably a really high level 3rd option, or an expensive 2nd option. He makes $27.7M next year, if he opts in and will be looking to get paid. What is the market for that in today's NBA? |
Again, this seems like typical fan wishful thinking. Talk down the star we want to get, while saying how the nothing-special players we want to give up are really, really good.
DRoz won't be a Laker. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| nickuku wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | DeMar is a terrible fit.
Even as a 6th man role, I'd much prefer Clarkson at the MLE. |
They're both terrible options. |
A mid range scorer that needs the ball in his hands and cant even defend is not what we need. I mean, I could stomach such a player if they could at least play defense. We would be much better off with a below average defensive wing if they could at least shoot the three and play off the ball. |
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| Don’t have the assets to make a move for Beal almost all the teams have more to offer in a deal for Bradley Beal. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1270394322408689664?s=21
Too difficult to pull off imo, but Beal with Lebron/AD 👀 |
haha you are fast. just came here to post the tweet.
nets have better assets then us tough.
I am happy to get Levert and Specer from wizards if they want |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1270394322408689664?s=21
Too difficult to pull off imo, but Beal with Lebron/AD 👀 |
Going to imagine that "different points" meant pre-AD trade |
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| 2019 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1270394322408689664?s=21
Too difficult to pull off imo, but Beal with Lebron/AD 👀 |
Going to imagine that "different points" meant pre-AD trade |
That makes sense. No chance the Lakers pull off a deal without at least part of the package that was sent to the Pels.
It also aligns from a time perspective. Once the FO got the Pels to agree, there was a pretty quick pivot to the wizards getting Wagner, Bonga and Jones. Usually that happens when teams are talking throughout the process and sometimes they agree to some smaller deal. |
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