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| yinoma2001 wrote: | How old is Buddy Hield again?
He was 21. Then 27. Is he 34 yet? |
Still 27, until December 17.
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| pio2u wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | You know the player I wish we could trade for next year?
Josh Richardson |
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| Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | I have seen plenty of defensive lapses. He's definitely shown great improvement in bursts, but he is still struggling with consistency.
That said, i'm working tonight, so i didn't see tonight's game. Maybe tonight is where he put it altogether. |
Not really. He made some plays, but had some lapses. His defense has improved a notch since he was a rookie, but that's more or less the normal progression that you would expect. Last night was just a night when his shot was dropping.
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| LakerSD wrote: | | Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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 Man. People going back to the Thibs/Kidd well over and over again.
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| LakerSD wrote: | | Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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Jeff wouldnt leave that cushy job at ESPN to coach those drama queens. Or would he. Hmm.
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| epic_ wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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Jeff wouldnt leave that cushy job at ESPN to coach those drama queens. Or would he. Hmm. |
JVG probably leveraging ABC for a pay raise.
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| LakerSD wrote: | | Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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Well, the pool of quality head coaching candidates is pretty shallow these days. I'm sure that Ty Lue's name will come up, too.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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Well, the pool of quality head coaching candidates is pretty shallow these days. I'm sure that Ty Lue's name will come up, too. |
Ty Lue to New Orleans makes sense.
And then the Pels miss the playoffs again, proving Ty is a fraud. 
Well, that and that David Griffin is a fraud?
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Pels will be an interesting place this summer. Will they go status quo and keep everyone to build around Zion? (Doubtful IMO).
I think they will package our picks and maybe some of our baby Lakers to go after someone like Beal. I think there is some Zion resentment, that he's getting all the adulation while guys like BI are putting in the work.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Pels will be an interesting place this summer. Will they go status quo and keep everyone to build around Zion? (Doubtful IMO).
I think they will package our picks and maybe some of our baby Lakers to go after someone like Beal. I think there is some Zion resentment, that he's getting all the adulation while guys like BI are putting in the work. |
It'll depend on if Zion can be more than half man, half a season.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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Man. People going back to the Thibs/Kidd well over and over again. |
I swear this Giannis thing is real. Kidd’s name is involved with every team’s search
I do think he has the respect of the superstars. Guys like Lebron, Giannis, KD seem to think very highly of Kidd. |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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Man. People going back to the Thibs/Kidd well over and over again. |
I swear this Giannis thing is real. Kidd’s name is involved with every team’s search
I do think he has the respect of the superstars. Guys like Lebron, Giannis, KD seem to think very highly of Kidd. |
I mean, Kidd did coach Byron Scott to the finals for 2 straight years. So I guess there's some value in that.
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| epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pels will be an interesting place this summer. Will they go status quo and keep everyone to build around Zion? (Doubtful IMO).
I think they will package our picks and maybe some of our baby Lakers to go after someone like Beal. I think there is some Zion resentment, that he's getting all the adulation while guys like BI are putting in the work. |
It'll depend on if Zion can be more than half man, half a season. |
The health of Zion will be key. If he can remain healthy it changes the team significantly. And if they ever find a coach that will stress and the overall will to play defense they could be an interesting team for the next 5 years as all the young players develop or they bring in some vets as suggested.
They learn how to win and they could be a consistent playoff team. Whether that translates into a "contender" could be entertaining.
Just looked up their picks. Did not realize they had Cleveland's 1st this year, except it is protected top 10! That has to hurt. Getting two future 2nds just isnt the same. lol
Brutal that the Lakers picks have no protections. Sort of?
- 2021- Lakers 1st (protected 8-30 in 2021, unprotected in 2022)
- 2023 right to swap 1st picks
- 2024 - right to Lakers 1st or choose to take 2025 1st instead. (Dangerous if post James is a rebuild) |
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| epic_ wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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Well, the pool of quality head coaching candidates is pretty shallow these days. I'm sure that Ty Lue's name will come up, too. |
Ty Lue to New Orleans makes sense.
And then the Pels miss the playoffs again, proving Ty is a fraud.
Well, that and that David Griffin is a fraud? |
So Ty Lue went from turning down the Laker job, to becoming Doc's "yes man," to (potentially) coaching the Pelicans?
Can you say "a series of bad decisions?"
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pels will be an interesting place this summer. Will they go status quo and keep everyone to build around Zion? (Doubtful IMO).
I think they will package our picks and maybe some of our baby Lakers to go after someone like Beal. I think there is some Zion resentment, that he's getting all the adulation while guys like BI are putting in the work. |
It'll depend on if Zion can be more than half man, half a season. |
The health of Zion will be key. If he can remain healthy it changes the team significantly. And if they ever find a coach that will stress and the overall will to play defense they could be an interesting team for the next 5 years as all the young players develop or they bring in some vets as suggested.
They learn how to win and they could be a consistent playoff team. Whether that translates into a "contender" could be entertaining.
Just looked up their picks. Did not realize they had Cleveland's 1st this year, except it is protected top 10! That has to hurt. Getting two future 2nds just isnt the same. lol
Brutal that the Lakers picks have no protections. Sort of?
- 2021- Lakers 1st (protected 8-30 in 2021, unprotected in 2022)
- 2023 right to swap 1st picks
- 2024 - right to Lakers 1st or choose to take 2025 1st instead. (Dangerous if post James is a rebuild) |
Our pick obligations aren't as bad as people made it out to be. 2021 we will still be in the championship mix. I think we will pick up some key FAs in 2021 to continue the train rolling. Maybe 2025 may be the questionable one but that is an eternity away.
Remember when folks were pissing and moaning about the 1st for Nash? They amounted to literally nothing for the Suns.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pels will be an interesting place this summer. Will they go status quo and keep everyone to build around Zion? (Doubtful IMO).
I think they will package our picks and maybe some of our baby Lakers to go after someone like Beal. I think there is some Zion resentment, that he's getting all the adulation while guys like BI are putting in the work. |
It'll depend on if Zion can be more than half man, half a season. |
The health of Zion will be key. If he can remain healthy it changes the team significantly. And if they ever find a coach that will stress and the overall will to play defense they could be an interesting team for the next 5 years as all the young players develop or they bring in some vets as suggested.
They learn how to win and they could be a consistent playoff team. Whether that translates into a "contender" could be entertaining.
Just looked up their picks. Did not realize they had Cleveland's 1st this year, except it is protected top 10! That has to hurt. Getting two future 2nds just isnt the same. lol
Brutal that the Lakers picks have no protections. Sort of?
- 2021- Lakers 1st (protected 8-30 in 2021, unprotected in 2022)
- 2023 right to swap 1st picks
- 2024 - right to Lakers 1st or choose to take 2025 1st instead. (Dangerous if post James is a rebuild) |
Our pick obligations aren't as bad as people made it out to be. 2021 we will still be in the championship mix. I think we will pick up some key FAs in 2021 to continue the train rolling. Maybe 2025 may be the questionable one but that is an eternity away.
Remember when folks were pissing and moaning about the 1st for Nash? They amounted to literally nothing for the Suns. |
What were those draft spots?
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pels will be an interesting place this summer. Will they go status quo and keep everyone to build around Zion? (Doubtful IMO).
I think they will package our picks and maybe some of our baby Lakers to go after someone like Beal. I think there is some Zion resentment, that he's getting all the adulation while guys like BI are putting in the work. |
It'll depend on if Zion can be more than half man, half a season. |
The health of Zion will be key. If he can remain healthy it changes the team significantly. And if they ever find a coach that will stress and the overall will to play defense they could be an interesting team for the next 5 years as all the young players develop or they bring in some vets as suggested.
They learn how to win and they could be a consistent playoff team. Whether that translates into a "contender" could be entertaining.
Just looked up their picks. Did not realize they had Cleveland's 1st this year, except it is protected top 10! That has to hurt. Getting two future 2nds just isnt the same. lol
Brutal that the Lakers picks have no protections. Sort of?
- 2021- Lakers 1st (protected 8-30 in 2021, unprotected in 2022)
- 2023 right to swap 1st picks
- 2024 - right to Lakers 1st or choose to take 2025 1st instead. (Dangerous if post James is a rebuild) |
Our pick obligations aren't as bad as people made it out to be. 2021 we will still be in the championship mix. I think we will pick up some key FAs in 2021 to continue the train rolling. Maybe 2025 may be the questionable one but that is an eternity away.
Remember when folks were pissing and moaning about the 1st for Nash? They amounted to literally nothing for the Suns. |
What were those draft spots? |
That's the point. Our draft picks will likely fall in the 20s for the next 2-3 seasons, possibly longer. I can't forecast 5 years out.
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pels will be an interesting place this summer. Will they go status quo and keep everyone to build around Zion? (Doubtful IMO).
I think they will package our picks and maybe some of our baby Lakers to go after someone like Beal. I think there is some Zion resentment, that he's getting all the adulation while guys like BI are putting in the work. |
It'll depend on if Zion can be more than half man, half a season. |
The health of Zion will be key. If he can remain healthy it changes the team significantly. And if they ever find a coach that will stress and the overall will to play defense they could be an interesting team for the next 5 years as all the young players develop or they bring in some vets as suggested.
They learn how to win and they could be a consistent playoff team. Whether that translates into a "contender" could be entertaining.
Just looked up their picks. Did not realize they had Cleveland's 1st this year, except it is protected top 10! That has to hurt. Getting two future 2nds just isnt the same. lol
Brutal that the Lakers picks have no protections. Sort of?
- 2021- Lakers 1st (protected 8-30 in 2021, unprotected in 2022)
- 2023 right to swap 1st picks
- 2024 - right to Lakers 1st or choose to take 2025 1st instead. (Dangerous if post James is a rebuild) |
So, in essence, the Lakers will have a #1 in 2020, a#1 in 2021, a #1 in 2023 and a #1 in either 2024 or 2025.
As long as AD comes back, that deal looks pretty good for us.
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| Quote: | That's the point. Our draft picks will likely fall in the 20s for the next 2-3 seasons, possibly longer. I can't forecast 5 years out.
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I meant, what were the PHX pick positions.
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Pels will be an interesting place this summer. Will they go status quo and keep everyone to build around Zion? (Doubtful IMO).
I think they will package our picks and maybe some of our baby Lakers to go after someone like Beal. I think there is some Zion resentment, that he's getting all the adulation while guys like BI are putting in the work. |
It'll depend on if Zion can be more than half man, half a season. |
The health of Zion will be key. If he can remain healthy it changes the team significantly. And if they ever find a coach that will stress and the overall will to play defense they could be an interesting team for the next 5 years as all the young players develop or they bring in some vets as suggested.
They learn how to win and they could be a consistent playoff team. Whether that translates into a "contender" could be entertaining.
Just looked up their picks. Did not realize they had Cleveland's 1st this year, except it is protected top 10! That has to hurt. Getting two future 2nds just isnt the same. lol
Brutal that the Lakers picks have no protections. Sort of?
- 2021- Lakers 1st (protected 8-30 in 2021, unprotected in 2022)
- 2023 right to swap 1st picks
- 2024 - right to Lakers 1st or choose to take 2025 1st instead. (Dangerous if post James is a rebuild) |
Our pick obligations aren't as bad as people made it out to be. 2021 we will still be in the championship mix. I think we will pick up some key FAs in 2021 to continue the train rolling. Maybe 2025 may be the questionable one but that is an eternity away.
Remember when folks were pissing and moaning about the 1st for Nash? They amounted to literally nothing for the Suns. |
What were those draft spots? |
2018 #10
2014 #36
2013 #57
2013 #30
I believe.
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The issue with acquiring Hield is the salary, what it would take to get him, and the significant hit we’d take on defense.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Quote: | | Jason Kidd and Jeff Van Gundy are among the external candidates being considered for the open head coaching position in Brooklyn, league sources tell The Athletic's @shamscharania. |
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Well, the pool of quality head coaching candidates is pretty shallow these days. I'm sure that Ty Lue's name will come up, too. |
Ty Lue to New Orleans makes sense.
And then the Pels miss the playoffs again, proving Ty is a fraud.
Well, that and that David Griffin is a fraud? |
So Ty Lue went from turning down the Laker job, to becoming Doc's "yes man," to (potentially) coaching the Pelicans?
Can you say "a series of bad decisions?" |
Coaching the Pelicans going forward is a pretty great job. Could be a long term home for him. If he had taken the Lakers offer he contends for a couple seasons and gets canned when LeBron stops being LeBron.
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| Why are you guys talking about Buddy Hield? Kuzma is turning into the 3rd star we need and he has developed a very good defensive game, I wouldn’t trade Kuzma unless we are getting LaVine or another top notch scorer. |
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