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| LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/thehoopcentral/status/1307034967017390084?s=21
Dumbass Sixers FO going to bail out clippers again? |
I don't see the Sixers trading Richardson for Lou, and even if they did I don't think it moves the needle for them that much next season. And then the year after Paul George will suddenly remember he was a Nets fan as a kid and we'll be done talking about them  |
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| OG and Zo for Smith and Waiters... Klutch |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/americans-free-agents-euroleague |
any thoughts on Nando De Colo? 40+% from 3 each of his last 6 seasons in Euro League. Very good FT shooter. Decent playmaking skills from what i can tell off youtube highlights. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/americans-free-agents-euroleague |
The only name of interest is Paul Zipser. He flashed talent during his time with the Bulls and was wondering what happened to him after his injury.
Edit. Btw is Ante Zizic just too stiff and a defensive liability for the NBA?
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| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/americans-free-agents-euroleague |
any thoughts on Nando De Colo? 40+% from 3 each of his last 6 seasons in Euro League. Very good FT shooter. Decent playmaking skills from what i can tell off youtube highlights. |
A few years back I believe he was a name being mentioned as a potential NBA pickup. Kinda old now. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/thehoopcentral/status/1307034967017390084?s=21
Dumbass Sixers FO going to bail out clippers again? |
I don't see the Sixers trading Richardson for Lou, and even if they did I don't think it moves the needle for them that much next season. And then the year after Paul George will suddenly remember he was a Nets fan as a kid and we'll be done talking about them |
That'll be interesting. I would think the Clippers realized their guards suck on defense. But a big part of the Clippers regular season success was due to Lou's offense. I don't think the Clippers would trade Lou for anyone less than Richardson though.
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| scoobs wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | As LBJ/Rondo age, I would put a premium on a player who can operate confidently as a creator and playmaker. LBJ is turning 36 in December; Rondo 35 in February.  |
Yep. It's gonna have to be Lavine and Lonzo in the backcourt with AD. Bright future. |
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LaVine would be great on this squad....
kuzma/28/filler for LaVine
Avery/mcgee for Zo
lol, then i wake up |
LeVine would be close to ideal. Something like Green, Kuzma, THT and #28 for LeVine and Felicio. |
Lavine would give opposing offenses a defender to target
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | As LBJ/Rondo age, I would put a premium on a player who can operate confidently as a creator and playmaker. LBJ is turning 36 in December; Rondo 35 in February. |
Yep. It's gonna have to be Lavine and Lonzo in the backcourt with AD. Bright future. |
I'd like to know how we're getting these guys. |
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Hey, that's Rob's job. |
LaVine would be great on this squad....
kuzma/28/filler for LaVine
Avery/mcgee for Zo
lol, then i wake up |
LeVine would be close to ideal. Something like Green, Kuzma, THT and #28 for LeVine and Felicio. |
Lavine would give opposing offenses a defender to target |
Can he adapt to sharing the ball? He is really ball dominant with the Bulls and st times seemed to be going 1 against 5. |
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| PlantedTanks wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | As LBJ/Rondo age, I would put a premium on a player who can operate confidently as a creator and playmaker. LBJ is turning 36 in December; Rondo 35 in February. |
Yep. It's gonna have to be Lavine and Lonzo in the backcourt with AD. Bright future. |
I'd like to know how we're getting these guys. |
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Hey, that's Rob's job. |
LaVine would be great on this squad....
kuzma/28/filler for LaVine
Avery/mcgee for Zo
lol, then i wake up |
LeVine would be close to ideal. Something like Green, Kuzma, THT and #28 for LeVine and Felicio. |
Lavine would give opposing offenses a defender to target |
Can he adapt to sharing the ball? He is really ball dominant with the Bulls and st times seemed to be going 1 against 5. |
Yea, not sure why the guys above want him so much.
I'd much rather have a Bradley Beal type of player.
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| PlantedTanks wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | As LBJ/Rondo age, I would put a premium on a player who can operate confidently as a creator and playmaker. LBJ is turning 36 in December; Rondo 35 in February. |
Yep. It's gonna have to be Lavine and Lonzo in the backcourt with AD. Bright future. |
I'd like to know how we're getting these guys. |
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Hey, that's Rob's job. |
LaVine would be great on this squad....
kuzma/28/filler for LaVine
Avery/mcgee for Zo
lol, then i wake up |
LeVine would be close to ideal. Something like Green, Kuzma, THT and #28 for LeVine and Felicio. |
Lavine would give opposing offenses a defender to target |
Can he adapt to sharing the ball? He is really ball dominant with the Bulls and st times seemed to be going 1 against 5. |
Great point 👍. He was 11th in the NBA with a 31% usage percentage. With that being said, 55% of his threes were catch and shoot, so he can play off the ball and he shot nearly 50% from corner threes, which would be phenomenal with lebron and ad. Some one mentioned Beal. I would prefer Beal, but he would probably be more expensive. I also wouldn't mind Hield. |
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The only issue with Hield is that his defense might be worse than Lavine's
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If the Lakers end up winning this series and the next one fairly easily, do you think that will make some veteran players either more willing to resign with the team (eg, Howard, Bradley), or more willing to join the team at a discount?
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Jesusdelonla
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Guys that absolutely need to be back
D Howard
Kieff Morris
Rondoooo |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | Guys that absolutely need to be back
D Howard
Kieff Morris
Rondoooo |
Dwight - 35
Rondo - 35
Morris - 31
Ages for next season. If they do come back, we'll need to preserve D39 and Rondo till the playoffs.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Guys that absolutely need to be back
D Howard
Kieff Morris
Rondoooo |
Dwight - 35
Rondo - 35
Morris - 31
Ages for next season. If they do come back, we'll need to preserve D39 and Rondo till the playoffs. |
I dont see their age as much as a problem. Keep their minutes under 20 and they will be good. Rondo will be injured anyway many times during the season. Nothing new there. Important he is fresh for PO. Dwight seems in great shape after losing weight and pressure on his back.
Morris is 31. He is at his peak anyway.
These three should back for sure.
I would get rid off McGee. IMO useless player on court but good chemistry guy on the other hand.
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| epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Guys that absolutely need to be back
D Howard
Kieff Morris
Rondoooo |
Dwight - 35
Rondo - 35
Morris - 31
Ages for next season. If they do come back, we'll need to preserve D39 and Rondo till the playoffs. |
so ur solution is to get Lavine and Lonzo |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | What I would like to see the Lakers "young" core looking like next season
DeVontae Cacok (24)
Christian Wood (25)
Kyle Kuzma (25)
Talen Horton Tucker (20)
Lonzo Ball (23)
Alex Caruso (26)
Josh Jackson (23)
I believe we are sleeping on Cacok. He has the potential to turn into a rotational big. Would also like to possibly bring Jemerrio Jones back on a 2 way. Remember the big impact and crazy he energy he bought to the Lakers closing last season out? A true DAWG. |
The love affair with Lonzo is just irrational. Lonzo adds nothing of value to this team.
Josh Jackson, Wood, Melton, Malik Beasley. |
What does Jackson add? The other 3 guys are MLE+ players. Lucky to be MLE range. |
I don't expect him to add anything. He would be the 15th man with upside.
Last year, he seemed to mature, so this year he could potentially take a leap with the right player development coaching. |
He matured because of team situation.
But I don't think it's a fair assumption that he'll settle for a vet min. |
It's that or Europe.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Guys that absolutely need to be back
D Howard
Kieff Morris
Rondoooo |
Dwight - 35
Rondo - 35
Morris - 31
Ages for next season. If they do come back, we'll need to preserve D39 and Rondo till the playoffs. |
Bench role, 10-15 minutes a game. We will see if we can retain anyone of them. Good chance we can but sometimes money talks and when a nice retirement check is offered, priority can make it challenging as they are not getting any younger. Winning and happiness can be a great equalizer for few mil though. However, what if Clippers offer their full MLE to Rondo. They need a playmaker and a leader for their playoff run. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | What I would like to see the Lakers "young" core looking like next season
DeVontae Cacok (24)
Christian Wood (25)
Kyle Kuzma (25)
Talen Horton Tucker (20)
Lonzo Ball (23)
Alex Caruso (26)
Josh Jackson (23)
I believe we are sleeping on Cacok. He has the potential to turn into a rotational big. Would also like to possibly bring Jemerrio Jones back on a 2 way. Remember the big impact and crazy he energy he bought to the Lakers closing last season out? A true DAWG. |
I appreciate this is semantics, but your "core" are the key guys you expect to move forward with. I wouldn't call a 24-year-old player on a two-way contract part of the core. If you're not instantly penciling someone into the rotation, I wouldn't consider them core players.
I also wonder if you would be exciting about Kuzma, Caruso, and Cacok if they weren't on the Lakers. At this moment, none of them seem like anything more than serviceable. |
When I say core, I mean rotation parts. All the players listed has the potential to be a top 10 player on a championship team. 4 already is(Wood/Zo/Kuz/Caruso)andwith further development in a year or 2 the others will be. THT is already knocking on the door. Cacok will continue to get better. Jackson has the talent, just has to find his niche. The good thing about us, we are vet heavy. So those guys would have plenty of time to develop over the next year or 2.
AD will still be here. Will just have to find that 2nd star somehow.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | What I would like to see the Lakers "young" core looking like next season
DeVontae Cacok (24)
Christian Wood (25)
Kyle Kuzma (25)
Talen Horton Tucker (20)
Lonzo Ball (23)
Alex Caruso (26)
Josh Jackson (23)
I believe we are sleeping on Cacok. He has the potential to turn into a rotational big. Would also like to possibly bring Jemerrio Jones back on a 2 way. Remember the big impact and crazy he energy he bought to the Lakers closing last season out? A true DAWG. |
I appreciate this is semantics, but your "core" are the key guys you expect to move forward with. I wouldn't call a 24-year-old player on a two-way contract part of the core. If you're not instantly penciling someone into the rotation, I wouldn't consider them core players.
I also wonder if you would be exciting about Kuzma, Caruso, and Cacok if they weren't on the Lakers. At this moment, none of them seem like anything more than serviceable. |
When I say core, I mean rotation parts. All the players listed has the potential to be a top 10 player on a championship team. 4 already is(Wood/Zo/Kuz/Caruso)andwith further development in a year or 2 the others will be. THT is already knocking on the door. Cacok will continue to get better. Jackson has the talent, just has to find his niche. The good thing about us, we are vet heavy. So those guys would have plenty of time to develop over the next year or 2.
AD will still be here. Will just have to find that 2nd star somehow. |
we up 1-0 in WCF and this dude only posts here in the FA thread...
his love for C Wood... |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Guys that absolutely need to be back
D Howard
Kieff Morris
Rondoooo |
Dwight - 35
Rondo - 35
Morris - 31
Ages for next season. If they do come back, we'll need to preserve D39 and Rondo till the playoffs. |
so ur solution is to get Lavine and Lonzo |
My solution is to preserve them.
I found someone who wants that backcourt btw
| Jesusdelonla wrote: | LaVine would be great on this squad....
kuzma/28/filler for LaVine
Avery/mcgee for Zo
lol, then i wake up |
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| epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Guys that absolutely need to be back
D Howard
Kieff Morris
Rondoooo |
Dwight - 35
Rondo - 35
Morris - 31
Ages for next season. If they do come back, we'll need to preserve D39 and Rondo till the playoffs. |
so ur solution is to get Lavine and Lonzo |
My solution is to preserve them.
I found someone who wants that backcourt btw
| Quote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | LaVine would be great on this squad....
kuzma/28/filler for LaVine
Avery/mcgee for Zo
lol, then i wake up |
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that was a joke passive aggressive Tupac...epak...or whatever ur new name is |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Guys that absolutely need to be back
D Howard
Kieff Morris
Rondoooo |
Dwight - 35
Rondo - 35
Morris - 31
Ages for next season. If they do come back, we'll need to preserve D39 and Rondo till the playoffs. |
so ur solution is to get Lavine and Lonzo |
My solution is to preserve them.
I found someone who wants that backcourt btw
| Quote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | LaVine would be great on this squad....
kuzma/28/filler for LaVine
Avery/mcgee for Zo
lol, then i wake up |
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that was a joke passive aggressive Tupac...epak...or whatever ur new name is |
Aw.. Booboo.
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | What I would like to see the Lakers "young" core looking like next season
DeVontae Cacok (24)
Christian Wood (25)
Kyle Kuzma (25)
Talen Horton Tucker (20)
Lonzo Ball (23)
Alex Caruso (26)
Josh Jackson (23)
I believe we are sleeping on Cacok. He has the potential to turn into a rotational big. Would also like to possibly bring Jemerrio Jones back on a 2 way. Remember the big impact and crazy he energy he bought to the Lakers closing last season out? A true DAWG. |
I appreciate this is semantics, but your "core" are the key guys you expect to move forward with. I wouldn't call a 24-year-old player on a two-way contract part of the core. If you're not instantly penciling someone into the rotation, I wouldn't consider them core players.
I also wonder if you would be exciting about Kuzma, Caruso, and Cacok if they weren't on the Lakers. At this moment, none of them seem like anything more than serviceable. |
When I say core, I mean rotation parts. All the players listed has the potential to be a top 10 player on a championship team. 4 already is(Wood/Zo/Kuz/Caruso)andwith further development in a year or 2 the others will be. THT is already knocking on the door. Cacok will continue to get better. Jackson has the talent, just has to find his niche. The good thing about us, we are vet heavy. So those guys would have plenty of time to develop over the next year or 2.
AD will still be here. Will just have to find that 2nd star somehow. |
we up 1-0 in WCF and this dude only posts here in the FA thread...
his love for C Wood... |
Check my posts. More than just in here lol. But that's me always looking to the future. The ring is ours for the taking this season.
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