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Dwight allowed his feelings to get in the way of making the best decision....he comes back to the Lakers and has another good season, the Lakers will not be hard capped in 2021-22 and would have his early bird rights allowing them to pay him a respectable amount. It was likely his only chance to sign another contract more than the Vet. Minimum in his career.


True...but playing time was also an issue for him here...he's saying that right now in his Sixer interview. I don't blame him...honestly I saw so many times when he had sealed his man under the basket and we never would get him the ball...he san still be effective offensively and I think he'll put up much better numbers in Philly because Simmons will find him often. He may have not had the same attitude here if given the same role as last year.


Yeah, I think we were so worried about awakening the old Dwight that we overcompensated by completely neutering his old role. He was just a defensive specialist and most of time the only offense he got was what he was able to generate himself. We should have used him a little more as an offensive weapon... but of course our main priority is showcasing LBJ and AD.
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I like the personnel we have on roster, and the flex we have as youthful talent we have going into mid season; where teams not in contention would be willing to trade personnel to invest in their future. The vets we have are proven champions, and I’m loving the fact that we still are in the running for big hitters like Freak and Beal. Lakernation, stand proud of our brain trust and brand.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:58 am    Post subject:

I’m still hoping the Kings match Bogdan’s offer sheet with the intention of trading him during the season and not losing him for nothing. Thus keeping the dream alive of us.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:00 am    Post subject:

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Dwight allowed his feelings to get in the way of making the best decision....he comes back to the Lakers and has another good season, the Lakers will not be hard capped in 2021-22 and would have his early bird rights allowing them to pay him a respectable amount. It was likely his only chance to sign another contract more than the Vet. Minimum in his career.


True...but playing time was also an issue for him here...he's saying that right now in his Sixer interview. I don't blame him...honestly I saw so many times when he had sealed his man under the basket and we never would get him the ball...he san still be effective offensively and I think he'll put up much better numbers in Philly because Simmons will find him often. He may have not had the same attitude here if given the same role as last year.


Yeah, I think we were so worried about awakening the old Dwight that we overcompensated by completely neutering his old role. He was just a defensive specialist and most of time the only offense he got was what he was able to generate himself. We should have used him a little more as an offensive weapon... but of course our main priority is showcasing LBJ and AD.


I agree....at least throw him the ball if he has his man sealed under the basket...can't tell you how many times Kuz and AD wouldn't even look at him...It's over now and Mac is a smarter player, great passer and low post defender...but he'll be worse than Dwight in PNR and will rarely if ever block a shot.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:01 am    Post subject:

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IF Marc isn't playing next season but Lakers are paying him and NBA doesn't remove Deng from Lakers payroll that means Lakers will have ~$8M in dead money?

Good grief Charlie Brown!


What makes you think Marc isn’t playing next season?


Anyone know if Marc's second year is guaranteed or is their an option?


Yes. The second-year he has a player's option.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:03 am    Post subject:

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IF Marc isn't playing next season but Lakers are paying him and NBA doesn't remove Deng from Lakers payroll that means Lakers will have ~$8M in dead money?

Good grief Charlie Brown!


What makes you think Marc isn’t playing next season?


Anyone know if Marc's second year is guaranteed or is their an option?


Yes. The second-year he has a player's option.


Thanks 32.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:03 am    Post subject:

Awfully good offseason this year - I think this year compares in some ways to when we brought in Shaq and traded for the rights to Kobe.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:05 am    Post subject:

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Dwight allowed his feelings to get in the way of making the best decision....he comes back to the Lakers and has another good season, the Lakers will not be hard capped in 2021-22 and would have his early bird rights allowing them to pay him a respectable amount. It was likely his only chance to sign another contract more than the Vet. Minimum in his career.


True...but playing time was also an issue for him here...he's saying that right now in his Sixer interview. I don't blame him...honestly I saw so many times when he had sealed his man under the basket and we never would get him the ball...he san still be effective offensively and I think he'll put up much better numbers in Philly because Simmons will find him often. He may have not had the same attitude here if given the same role as last year.


Yeah I don’t see where Dwight’s minutes are coming from on this team. He made the right move.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:06 am    Post subject:

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Dwight allowed his feelings to get in the way of making the best decision....he comes back to the Lakers and has another good season, the Lakers will not be hard capped in 2021-22 and would have his early bird rights allowing them to pay him a respectable amount. It was likely his only chance to sign another contract more than the Vet. Minimum in his career.


True...but playing time was also an issue for him here...he's saying that right now in his Sixer interview. I don't blame him...honestly I saw so many times when he had sealed his man under the basket and we never would get him the ball...he san still be effective offensively and I think he'll put up much better numbers in Philly because Simmons will find him often. He may have not had the same attitude here if given the same role as last year.


Yeah, I think we were so worried about awakening the old Dwight that we overcompensated by completely neutering his old role. He was just a defensive specialist and most of time the only offense he got was what he was able to generate himself. We should have used him a little more as an offensive weapon... but of course our main priority is showcasing LBJ and AD.


I agree....at least throw him the ball if he has his man sealed under the basket...can't tell you how many times Kuz and AD wouldn't even look at him...It's over now and Mac is a smarter player, great passer and low post defender...but he'll be worse than Dwight in PNR and will rarely if ever block a shot.


Yeah, I'm looking on the bright side and expecting an older version of what we got from Brook Lopez. Apples and oranges.

But it's a blow to lose Dwight... hopefully we don't see him in the playoffs.

Embiid and Dwight simultaneously would be a handful for AD.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:12 am    Post subject:

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THT is unproven... at 28 years old, I'm pretty sure McKinnie is what is he's proven to be which is an athletic guy who can play some defense but who can't really shoot and has had some injury issues.

Someone just implied that the front office is infallible... and while they have done a fantastic job... no one is infallible... otherwise we'd have Dwight or Boogie on the roster instead of McKinnie.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone as angry as you are about keeping a guy who projects to be a 14th man. You’re in like every thread complaining about McKinnie
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:14 am    Post subject:

32 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
markjay wrote:
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IF Marc isn't playing next season but Lakers are paying him and NBA doesn't remove Deng from Lakers payroll that means Lakers will have ~$8M in dead money?

Good grief Charlie Brown!


What makes you think Marc isn’t playing next season?


Anyone know if Marc's second year is guaranteed or is their an option?


Yes. The second-year he has a player's option.


According to Shams, it’s 2 year deal w no options.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:15 am    Post subject:

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Dwight allowed his feelings to get in the way of making the best decision....he comes back to the Lakers and has another good season, the Lakers will not be hard capped in 2021-22 and would have his early bird rights allowing them to pay him a respectable amount. It was likely his only chance to sign another contract more than the Vet. Minimum in his career.

I honestly don’t think there’s many minutes for Dwight anyways unless someone gets hurt. Gasol, AD, and Harrell are going to be soaking up near 100% of the Center minutes. Kieff will probably play some there too.

If the choice was Dwight or Marc, I’m taking Marc.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:17 am    Post subject:

Just curious what Vegas thinks. Did the Lakers odds of winning the championship go up after free agency?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:22 am    Post subject:

It's not like next year will matter. I believe that the plan is to maintain the team for the next 2 years and just sign another player with the tax payer MLE
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:24 am    Post subject:

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Is Taj Gibson available? Dude always killed us.


He looked a little washed to me and also too redundant with Harrell. I’d rather Whiteside tbh.


Whiteside won't come to be an end of bench, 4th option, use only when there's an injury, player


That’s true. Maybe just see how it goes and adjust...just like last season with Kief.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:27 am    Post subject:

Where the foouuck did Marc not playing come from?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:28 am    Post subject:

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Charania: Marc Gasol has signed his two-year, $5.3M deal with the Lakers, source tells @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. No team or player option in second season.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:29 am    Post subject:

AY2043 wrote:
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THT is unproven... at 28 years old, I'm pretty sure McKinnie is what is he's proven to be which is an athletic guy who can play some defense but who can't really shoot and has had some injury issues.

Someone just implied that the front office is infallible... and while they have done a fantastic job... no one is infallible... otherwise we'd have Dwight or Boogie on the roster instead of McKinnie.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone as angry as you are about keeping a guy who projects to be a 14th man. You’re in like every thread complaining about McKinnie


Again I'm happy overall and nitpicking... I'm more upset that we lost Dwight and Boogie than anything else.

Maybe he'll be a nice surprise... but in my mind, no detail is too small when trying to go for another title. It was those bargain signings that helped bring us over the top this season. If we didn't sign Rondo when Avery became unavailable... no title.
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32 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
markjay wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
IF Marc isn't playing next season but Lakers are paying him and NBA doesn't remove Deng from Lakers payroll that means Lakers will have ~$8M in dead money?

Good grief Charlie Brown!


What makes you think Marc isn’t playing next season?


Anyone know if Marc's second year is guaranteed or is their an option?


Yes. The second-year he has a player's option.


According to Shams, it’s 2 year deal w no options.


Thanks. This is new. Previous reports is he had one.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:31 am    Post subject:

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THT is unproven... at 28 years old, I'm pretty sure McKinnie is what is he's proven to be which is an athletic guy who can play some defense but who can't really shoot and has had some injury issues.

Someone just implied that the front office is infallible... and while they have done a fantastic job... no one is infallible... otherwise we'd have Dwight or Boogie on the roster instead of McKinnie.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone as angry as you are about keeping a guy who projects to be a 14th man. You’re in like every thread complaining about McKinnie


Again I'm happy overall and nitpicking... I'm more upset that we lost Dwight and Boogie than anything else.

Maybe he'll be a nice surprise... but in my mind, no detail is too small when trying to go for another title. It was those bargain signings that helped bring us over the top this season. If we didn't sign Rondo when Avery became unavailable... no title.

The Lakers were not interested in Boogie, maybe they know something that we don't. The last news are that he can't even play right now.

We lost Howard because he made a Howard thing, it's not the Lakers' fault that he can't wait a few more hours.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:32 am    Post subject:

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32 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
markjay wrote:
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IF Marc isn't playing next season but Lakers are paying him and NBA doesn't remove Deng from Lakers payroll that means Lakers will have ~$8M in dead money?

Good grief Charlie Brown!


What makes you think Marc isn’t playing next season?


Anyone know if Marc's second year is guaranteed or is their an option?


Yes. The second-year he has a player's option.


Thanks 32.


Sorry. Shams just sent a tweet he has no options in 2nd year.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1331269041374236672?s=20
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:32 am    Post subject:

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Dwight allowed his feelings to get in the way of making the best decision....he comes back to the Lakers and has another good season, the Lakers will not be hard capped in 2021-22 and would have his early bird rights allowing them to pay him a respectable amount. It was likely his only chance to sign another contract more than the Vet. Minimum in his career.


True...but playing time was also an issue for him here...he's saying that right now in his Sixer interview. I don't blame him...honestly I saw so many times when he had sealed his man under the basket and we never would get him the ball...he san still be effective offensively and I think he'll put up much better numbers in Philly because Simmons will find him often. He may have not had the same attitude here if given the same role as last year.


When guys start whining about their roles or touches on a team that just won a championship, it's time for them to go. I'm glad Dwight came here and did what we asked - his reward was a championship ring. If that wasn't enough for him, then moving to Philly was the best move for all concerned.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:33 am    Post subject:

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I have no inside info here, but lack of player option increases suspicion that this is the Tim Duncan Memorial sign-and-retire arrangement - play one yr, get paid for two. Lakers didn't need to trade McGee if it was 1-year minimum, and Marc could have got a minimum again next yr.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:34 am    Post subject:

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I have no inside info here, but lack of player option increases suspicion that this is the Tim Duncan Memorial sign-and-retire arrangement - play one yr, get paid for two. Lakers didn't need to trade McGee if it was 1-year minimum, and Marc could have got a minimum again next yr.


Credit Eric Pincus for mentioning this first as far as I've seen.
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