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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:55 pm    Post subject:

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Orlando would trade Vucevic to Dallas for Dennis Smith Jr. (and Matthews) before they trade him to the Lakers for Hart, Zubac, Wagner, and a first.

If the Lakers want Vucevic, they'll have to include one of Ball or Ingram. It is what it is.




1. Even those that wanted to trade BI wouldn't do that trade.
2. Is DSJ + Wes better than Hart, Zubac, Wagner and a 1st? (Not that I would do #2 either)


Hell yes DSJ+Wes is better than our offering.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:13 pm    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
epak wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
Joe Pesci wrote:
Orlando would trade Vucevic to Dallas for Dennis Smith Jr. (and Matthews) before they trade him to the Lakers for Hart, Zubac, Wagner, and a first.

If the Lakers want Vucevic, they'll have to include one of Ball or Ingram. It is what it is.




1. Even those that wanted to trade BI wouldn't do that trade.
2. Is DSJ + Wes better than Hart, Zubac, Wagner and a 1st? (Not that I would do #2 either)


Hell yes DSJ+Wes is better than our offering.


You're pretty high on DSJ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject:

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Can we trade Lance and money for Wayne Ellington?

Then maybe we can re-visit the KCP for Ariza in a 3-team trade?

Still dont think we trade any young guys or 1st round picks until Summer when we know on AD.


ellington and Ariza would be nice additions.


Would be AMAZING additions.


Theres gotta be a way to get 1-2 guys like that without giving up our young guys + 1st round picks

Money. 2nd round picks, whatever..

Go get 1-2 guys like Ellington and Ariza.

Ideally WIZ start losing and we can do something with them and Houston and get Ariza,


As much as I want Ariza, I doubt they will jettison him at this point.


I agree but they're also #6 on Tankathon.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:25 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
epak wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
Joe Pesci wrote:
Orlando would trade Vucevic to Dallas for Dennis Smith Jr. (and Matthews) before they trade him to the Lakers for Hart, Zubac, Wagner, and a first.

If the Lakers want Vucevic, they'll have to include one of Ball or Ingram. It is what it is.




1. Even those that wanted to trade BI wouldn't do that trade.
2. Is DSJ + Wes better than Hart, Zubac, Wagner and a 1st? (Not that I would do #2 either)


Hell yes DSJ+Wes is better than our offering.


You're pretty high on DSJ?

This league is al km about hype and upside. Smith has both.

Across the league ralent evaluators see Hart as having very little upside. Zubac is a throw-in with remote porential. Wagner is a complete unknown, and the first round pick sounds good on paper, but will more than likely not yield a player with even a half of Smith's potential.

The league loves "pop" and loves youthful upside. Smith checks both boxes -- even though, to me, he's a mental midget.

I can almost guarantee you Orlando would rather have Smith for Vucevic than Hart, Zubac, Wagner, and a first.

Like I said before, if the Lakers truly want Vucevic, the price will be a player with hype and youthful upside -- the price will be Ball or Ingram.

It is what it is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:21 pm    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
epak wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
epak wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
Joe Pesci wrote:
Orlando would trade Vucevic to Dallas for Dennis Smith Jr. (and Matthews) before they trade him to the Lakers for Hart, Zubac, Wagner, and a first.

If the Lakers want Vucevic, they'll have to include one of Ball or Ingram. It is what it is.




1. Even those that wanted to trade BI wouldn't do that trade.
2. Is DSJ + Wes better than Hart, Zubac, Wagner and a 1st? (Not that I would do #2 either)


Hell yes DSJ+Wes is better than our offering.


You're pretty high on DSJ?

This league is al km about hype and upside. Smith has both.

Across the league ralent evaluators see Hart as having very little upside. Zubac is a throw-in with remote porential. Wagner is a complete unknown, and the first round pick sounds good on paper, but will more than likely not yield a player with even a half of Smith's potential.

The league loves "pop" and loves youthful upside. Smith checks both boxes -- even though, to me, he's a mental midget.

I can almost guarantee you Orlando would rather have Smith for Vucevic than Hart, Zubac, Wagner, and a first.

Like I said before, if the Lakers truly want Vucevic, the price will be a player with hype and youthful upside -- the price will be Ball or Ingram.

It is what it is.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:24 pm    Post subject:

Ingram or Ball for a player who is a FA this summer? Does Pesci even know he’s on a expiring contract? The Magic should take the Hart/Wagner/Zubac package and run.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:31 pm    Post subject:

The expiring contract of Vucevic will probably net Orlando a talented PG on a rookie deal (Dennis Smith Jr.).

Context is everything. Not all trades involving expirings are sold fifty cents on the dollar. Some actually net you real young talent on rookie deals. This is an example of the latter.

Orlando, I'm sure, would rather have the "potential" franchise PG who packs loads of excitemental than a hodge podge of role players.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:33 pm    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
The expiring contract of Vucevic will probably net Orlando a talented PG on a rookie deal (Dennis Smith Jr.).

Context is everything. Not all trades involving expirings are sold fifty cents on the dollar. Some actually net you real young talent on rookie deals. This is an example of the latter.

Orlando, I'm sure, would rather have the "potential" franchise PG who packs loads of excitemental than a hodge podge of role players.


How do we even know the trade involving Vucevic is centered around Smith? anyone have a link for that?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:49 pm    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
The expiring contract of Vucevic will probably net Orlando a talented PG on a rookie deal (Dennis Smith Jr.).

Context is everything. Not all trades involving expirings are sold fifty cents on the dollar. Some actually net you real young talent on rookie deals. This is an example of the latter.

Orlando, I'm sure, would rather have the "potential" franchise PG who packs loads of excitemental than a hodge podge of role players.


Ya Dallas really wants Vucevic when they are paying 24/25m to DJ
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:50 pm    Post subject:

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Joe Pesci wrote:
The expiring contract of Vucevic will probably net Orlando a talented PG on a rookie deal (Dennis Smith Jr.).

Context is everything. Not all trades involving expirings are sold fifty cents on the dollar. Some actually net you real young talent on rookie deals. This is an example of the latter.

Orlando, I'm sure, would rather have the "potential" franchise PG who packs loads of excitemental than a hodge podge of role players.


How do we even know the trade involving Vucevic is centered around Smith? anyone have a link for that?


Nobody knows, Joe is pretending like he has an inside source
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:52 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
epak wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
Joe Pesci wrote:
Orlando would trade Vucevic to Dallas for Dennis Smith Jr. (and Matthews) before they trade him to the Lakers for Hart, Zubac, Wagner, and a first.

If the Lakers want Vucevic, they'll have to include one of Ball or Ingram. It is what it is.




1. Even those that wanted to trade BI wouldn't do that trade.
2. Is DSJ + Wes better than Hart, Zubac, Wagner and a 1st? (Not that I would do #2 either)


Hell yes DSJ+Wes is better than our offering.


You're pretty high on DSJ?


My opinion of DSJ is irrelevant since its not what the Magic *should* do it is what *would* they do.

IMO, they’d much rather have a package centering around DSJ than Hart.

DSJ has the upside factor that Hart doesn’t. Zu is a nobody. Wagner is a nobody.

(But if they have an affinity for SGs that love to foul 3pt shooters with regularity, that might change some things)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Ingram for prince/bembry

Who says no?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject:

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Ingram for prince/bembry

Who says no?


Lakers.

BI has more upside than Taurean
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:18 pm    Post subject:

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Ingram for prince/bembry

Who says no?


Lakers.

BI has more upside than Taurean

Problem is that the Lakers are in win now mode with 34 year old LeBron. Prince would be a better fit with LeBron than BI too due to his shooting & being a good free throw shooter, along with being a nice all around player that doesn't have to have the ball in his hands to be productive. Hawks would have to throw in a future first rounder, but Lakers would only trade BI if they are getting back an All-Star/Superstar player imo.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:17 pm    Post subject:

We are supposedly interested in signing Chandler Parsons

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsoEH6sBGzQ/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=XD7MaAAAAAHV56iN2m_Mn4pEaW9W
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:18 pm    Post subject:

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We are supposedly interested in signing Chandler Parsons

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsoEH6sBGzQ/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=XD7MaAAAAAHV56iN2m_Mn4pEaW9W


Hahahahahahahaha
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:23 pm    Post subject:

Parsons shot 42% last year from three at high volume.
That would make him 6th in the league this season.

Look at this list of players who have taken 5 shots from three per game.

Kuzma is almost last.

At least Lonzo seems to be improving but whoever said 30% is acceptable... never compared this shooting to the rest of the league.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&year_min=2019&year_max=2019&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fg3a_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=5&c2stat=fg3_pct&c2comp=gt&order_by=fg3_pct


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:28 pm    Post subject:

After buyout I won't mind Chandler
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:45 pm    Post subject:

Yes he shot 3s great last year. In 36 games. 42%.
And he shot 27% in 34 games the year before.
And he's 30% in 3 games this year.
Will the real Chandler Parsons please stand up? Wasn't he horrible on defense?
Either way, will he get hurt again? I think his health is the most important thing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:55 pm    Post subject:

Would you guys trade Hart and a first for TJ? He’s been wet from 3 all season.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:57 pm    Post subject:

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Would you guys trade Hart and a first for TJ? He’s been wet from 3 all season.


A first for a potential one year rental?
Only if we can get a 1st or early 2nd for KCP
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:59 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
We are supposedly interested in signing Chandler Parsons

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsoEH6sBGzQ/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=XD7MaAAAAAHV56iN2m_Mn4pEaW9W

No thanks. I'd rather take Nick Young.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:01 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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Would you guys trade Hart and a first for TJ? He’s been wet from 3 all season.


A first for a potential one year rental?
Only if we can get a 1st or early 2nd for KCP
Warren is signed until 2022....
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Would you guys trade Hart and a first for TJ? He’s been wet from 3 all season.


A first for a potential one year rental?
Only if we can get a 1st or early 2nd for KCP
Warren is signed until 2022....


My bad. Spotrac isn't updated.
How much does he make this and next year?
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