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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 pm    Post subject:

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Brian Windhorst on Hoop collective Pod: LeBron doesn’t care about his teammates he would ship all of them out in a trade.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnnyNBA/status/1087818375718465536


windhorst turned sour on LeBron now he's not in Cleveland, and LA's healthy eating culture isn't worth it for windhorst to relocate.


he did not turn sour on him....he still speaks about him in awe....but always takes the angle that the Lakers have failed Lebron by not putting the proper pieces around him. Lebron is great, but Windhorst overvalues him at this point in his career.

Nothing new here, when things are not going well, Lebron always makes sure everyone is to blame but himself.....while ensuring he receives all the credit when things go well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:20 pm    Post subject:

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I have to see where that $ goes that was supposed to go to PG13 in free agency.
If that $ goes to KD or Kawhi this offseason. All the decisions leading up to that point are fine by me.


That's a fair way of looking at it. Does that include a trade for Anthony Davis? The object is to get another star to pair with Lebron this summer. What about Klay or Kyrie does that count?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:22 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
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Brian Windhorst on Hoop collective Pod: LeBron doesn’t care about his teammates he would ship all of them out in a trade.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnnyNBA/status/1087818375718465536


windhorst turned sour on LeBron now he's not in Cleveland, and LA's healthy eating culture isn't worth it for windhorst to relocate.


he did not turn sour on him....he still speaks about him in awe....but always takes the angle that the Lakers have failed Lebron by not putting the proper pieces around him. Lebron is great, but Windhorst overvalues him at this point in his career.

Nothing new here, when things are not going well, Lebron always makes sure everyone is to blame but himself.....while ensuring he receives all the credit when things go well.

Why would Lebron be at fault here?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:23 pm    Post subject:

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Brian Windhorst on Hoop collective Pod: LeBron doesn’t care about his teammates he would ship all of them out in a trade.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnnyNBA/status/1087818375718465536
If true, that says more about Lebron than anything else and isn't all that surprising either. Hopefully it's all a bunch of bs.


Lebron is about winning championships and I am good wih that. I love the young guys we have but would happily trade any combination of them for a title.
Young players are trade assets until proven otherwise. Just depends on their value at this point.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:29 pm    Post subject:

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if we resign Zubac how soon can we turn around and trade him? It looks like he will be a necessary piece to help get AD since the stock for BI and Hart dropped.

Also another thing I realized... Im not sure how attractive BI would be in any trade because he is an FA in the following offseason. Who would really want to trade for him and then have to turn around and likely overpay to resign him or let him walk a year later.


If a sign and trade of Zubac, then it would need to be done within 48 hours because that is a requirement for that transaction.


Otherwise...

101. When can't a player be traded? Can players be given "no-trade" clauses in their contracts?


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A "no-trade" clause prevents the team from trading the player without the player's consent. A no-trade clause can be negotiated into a new contract1 if the player has been in the NBA for at least eight seasons, and has played for the team with which he is signing for at least four seasons2. They don't have to be the four most recent seasons -- for example, Horace Grant received a no-trade clause from Orlando when he signed with them in 2001. He had played for Orlando for the requisite four seasons, but had played for Seattle and Los Angeles in the interim. Few players actually have one of these negotiated no-trade clauses -- currently only Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James and Dirk Nowitzki have them.

If a player with a negotiated no-trade clause consents to a trade and is traded, his no-trade clause remains in effect with his new team.

There are two additional circumstances in which a trade requires the player's consent:

When the player is playing under a one-year contract (excluding any option year) and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the season. This includes first round draft picks following their fourth (option) season, who accept their team's qualifying offer for their fifth season. When the player consents to such a trade, his Larry Bird/Early Bird rights are not traded with him, and instead becomes a Non-Bird free agent3. The player's consent is also required for any subsequent trades that season.

For one year after exercising the right of first refusal to keep a restricted free agent. The player must consent to a trade to any team, although he cannot be traded to the team that signed him to the offer sheet.


In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:

* For two months after receiving the player in trade, if the trade aggregates the player's salary with the salaries of other players. However, the team is free to trade the player immediately, either by himself or without aggregating his salary with other salaries. This restriction applies only to players who were acquired using an exception (and not cap room). (Also see question number 90.)

* When the trade deadline has passed. Teams are free to make trades again once their season has ended4, but cannot trade players whose contracts are ending or could end due to an option or ETO.

* For three months or until December 15 of that season (whichever is later) after signing a contract as a free agent or matching an offer sheet to a restricted free agent. This obviously does not apply to the trade completing a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 92).

* For three months or until December 15 of that season (whichever is later) after converting a Two-Way contract to a standard contract (see question number 83), with the three months beginning on the date the contract is converted.

* For three months or until January 15 of that season (whichever is later) after re-signing a free agent with Larry Bird or Early Bird rights, if the team is over the cap, the player's new salary is above the minimum, and he receives a raise greater than 20%.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:39 pm    Post subject:

noahp45 wrote:
Wander how many back courts Ball and Klay will shut down next year as a duo?


I don’t see a reason why he would come here
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:49 pm    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1087778389321166848?s=20
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:53 pm    Post subject:

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For first time, Memphis will begin listening to trade offers on franchise stars Marc Gasol and Mike Conley, league sources tell ESPN. Memphis has reached a crossroads and is preparing to weigh deals involving one or both of its cornerstone veterans. Story soon on ESPN
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:55 pm    Post subject:

I still think the Lakers primary target is Anthony Davis. And a lot of people won't like this but it's possible they will punt the cap space to 2020 if they're confident he's coming. That's if they can't trade for him first.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:55 pm    Post subject:

Before IG goes crazy, don't want either of m gasoline or conley
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:58 pm    Post subject:

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Before IG goes crazy, don't want either of m gasoline or conley


Yep. No thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:01 pm    Post subject:

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Before IG goes crazy, don't want either of m gasoline or conley


Marc would be a nice target if he didn't have that PO for next year.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:02 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
I still think the Lakers primary target is Anthony Davis. And a lot of people won't like this but it's possible they will punt the cap space to 2020 if they're confident he's coming. That's if they can't trade for him first.


NO would be fools to let him walk for nothing. They might just wait until next season and trade him at the deadline. That way they can take one last crack at it next season and see where it goes. Atleast they save face that way by saying they tried everything they could and were convinced he was leaving.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:03 pm    Post subject:

Anyone mention any interest in the name (and the albatross contract) of Conley here, you have to "just say no".

His contract is brutal.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:04 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
I still think the Lakers primary target is Anthony Davis. And a lot of people won't like this but it's possible they will punt the cap space to 2020 if they're confident he's coming. That's if they can't trade for him first.

I dont see that happening at all.
1) that means TWO wasted seasons of Lebrons prime. Not happening.
2)there is pretty much no elite players hitting the market in 2020 besides AD. If we miss on him we are completely screwed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:08 pm    Post subject:

You guys might not want Conley, but I bet Lebron does.....

Lebron probably vouching for him right now to the Front office..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:10 pm    Post subject:

Don't forget that Anthony Davis is Agent is Rich Paul the same agent for LeBron. Of course LeBron would have to sign off on it to wait until 2020.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:10 pm    Post subject:

Conley is overrated and overpaid and is always injured.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:11 pm    Post subject:

If anyone wants Gasol, just remember those dark days when we had Pau right before he left. He was so frustrating to watch and washed. I'm good on another Gasol. Still having PTSD from those days.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:12 pm    Post subject:

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Before IG goes crazy, don't want either of m gasoline or conley


Marc would be a nice target if he didn't have that PO for next year.


Yeah. That's not going to work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:13 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
Conley is overrated and overpaid and is always injured.


him and Marc Gasol will not get many suitors, their game isn't the modern day NBA. Marc Gasol is a lumbering center with good passing ability and mid-range shot, basically an even less athletic version of Aldridge. Conley's signature has never his ability to score, which in today's NBA is a must-have quality for a starting PG. Memphis is playing at the slowest pace in the league mostly due to Conley being their PG, he's more comfortable in half court game.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:14 pm    Post subject:

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Conley is overrated and overpaid and is always injured.


him and Marc Gasol will not get many suitors, their game isn't the modern day NBA. Marc Gasol is a lumbering center with good passing ability and mid-range shot, basically an even less athletic version of Aldridge. Conley's signature is never his ability to score, which in today's NBA is a must-have quality for a starting PG.


Conley avgs like 20ppg this season.

I would rate him and Jrue to be the best 2 way pgs in the nba still
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:15 pm    Post subject:

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I still think the Lakers primary target is Anthony Davis. And a lot of people won't like this but it's possible they will punt the cap space to 2020 if they're confident he's coming. That's if they can't trade for him first.


NO would be fools to let him walk for nothing. They might just wait until next season and trade him at the deadline. That way they can take one last crack at it next season and see where it goes. Atleast they save face that way by saying they tried everything they could and were convinced he was leaving.


I think that the Pelicans deal AD in the offseason and more than likely he goes to the Eastern Conference. I believe that their preferred currency will be draft picks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:20 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
Before IG goes crazy, don't want either of m gasoline or conley


I think the guys we are interested in on the Grizzles roster is Shelvin Mack and Garret Temple...


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:26 pm    Post subject:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ralph_MasonJr/status/1087845964499476480

KD will be a Laker


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