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| LakerSanity wrote: | I made a joke earlier in this thread that the Lakers would end up this summer spending $38 million per year x 4 years on Harrison Barnes and Nikola Vucevic this summer (i.e. the modern day Deng and Mozgov contracts). Funny that people want to max out Vucevic like he actually screams championship player or something.
The irony of all of this is that Jim/Mitch played the same game Magic/Pelinka are now. Punt cap space until a free agent will take it. Then Jim put a deadline on himself, just like Magic is doing now. Then came Deng/Mozgov as a desperation move to meet the self-imposed deadline. It wouldn't shock me to Magic do the same this summer. |
Magic promised a star, if he/Pelinka does this (it should be vetoed by Jeanie if she has a brain), they should both be fired for even bringing it up. Then they should both be run outa town
We should be in charge over Magic, we're more knowledgeable
Only options:
Kawhi, Kyrie, or trade for AD, maybe Dame
If not, hold cap space for next year. Goal is championship, not middle of road playoff team |
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Lmao what the (bleep) is that dudes problem? Went from stanning Kobe to sabotaging the Lakers. He that mad the Lakers prioritized Bron over him? |
Honestly, I really wanted him and I think he and LBJ would have been a devastating duo.
But I do think he's easily influenced (WB/OKC/agent did a number on him IMO).
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | I made a joke earlier in this thread that the Lakers would end up this summer spending $38 million per year x 4 years on Harrison Barnes and Nikola Vucevic this summer (i.e. the modern day Deng and Mozgov contracts). Funny that people want to max out Vucevic like he actually screams championship player or something.
The irony of all of this is that Jim/Mitch played the same game Magic/Pelinka are now. Punt cap space until a free agent will take it. Then Jim put a deadline on himself, just like Magic is doing now. Then came Deng/Mozgov as a desperation move to meet the self-imposed deadline. It wouldn't shock me to Magic do the same this summer. |
Well, one did get LBJ.
But the more depressing thing is that after getting LBJ, they squandered that season with absolutely pitiful signings (28m). |
the way I see it this may all be a blessing in disguise. Once PG13 didnt sign this was a punting season period. So might as well tank for a top 8 draft pick to load up on as much talents/assets for next season
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Darth Los Angeles wrote: | The Lakers need to clear up the perception that Klutch and LeBron are running this organization.
This is why...
The Lakers are only going to be as great as LeBron's character while he's the focal point of the team. We've seen it for years and now we finally got to see just how destructive LeBron is towards his teammates and the organization. It's going to happen as long as he's not forced to be accountable among his teammates or coaches. I'd like to see the Lakers bring in some grown men.
LeBron CANNOT be depended on for leadership or as the face of the organization. The Lakers have to treat LeBron as just another player because he showed us this year that his needs are more important than the Lakers brand. So if that means we take a route where LeBron no longer at the center of the team dynamic; so be it. LeBron is not trustworthy and doesn't deserve to have any consultation type of input going forward.
If the Lakers are not willing to do this... We're screwed. |
This isn't even a LBJ thread and here is Mr. Gloom and Doom.  |
rent free |
I actually believe LBJ getting 5 months to get his body right for 2019-20 will result in a rejuvenated and better conditioned LBJ.
I hated how he gave up on the team but I do expect a better LBJ next season. Like top 5 MVP candidate version. |
Is he going to get in shape by filming Space Jam 2? That could take up part of the offseason.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Darth Los Angeles wrote: | The Lakers need to clear up the perception that Klutch and LeBron are running this organization.
This is why...
The Lakers are only going to be as great as LeBron's character while he's the focal point of the team. We've seen it for years and now we finally got to see just how destructive LeBron is towards his teammates and the organization. It's going to happen as long as he's not forced to be accountable among his teammates or coaches. I'd like to see the Lakers bring in some grown men.
LeBron CANNOT be depended on for leadership or as the face of the organization. The Lakers have to treat LeBron as just another player because he showed us this year that his needs are more important than the Lakers brand. So if that means we take a route where LeBron no longer at the center of the team dynamic; so be it. LeBron is not trustworthy and doesn't deserve to have any consultation type of input going forward.
If the Lakers are not willing to do this... We're screwed. |
This isn't even a LBJ thread and here is Mr. Gloom and Doom. |
rent free |
I actually believe LBJ getting 5 months to get his body right for 2019-20 will result in a rejuvenated and better conditioned LBJ.
I hated how he gave up on the team but I do expect a better LBJ next season. Like top 5 MVP candidate version. |
Is he going to get in shape by filming Space Jam 2? That could take up part of the offseason. |
is filming for space jam 2 as intense as playing playoffs bb? |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Darth Los Angeles wrote: | The Lakers need to clear up the perception that Klutch and LeBron are running this organization.
This is why...
The Lakers are only going to be as great as LeBron's character while he's the focal point of the team. We've seen it for years and now we finally got to see just how destructive LeBron is towards his teammates and the organization. It's going to happen as long as he's not forced to be accountable among his teammates or coaches. I'd like to see the Lakers bring in some grown men.
LeBron CANNOT be depended on for leadership or as the face of the organization. The Lakers have to treat LeBron as just another player because he showed us this year that his needs are more important than the Lakers brand. So if that means we take a route where LeBron no longer at the center of the team dynamic; so be it. LeBron is not trustworthy and doesn't deserve to have any consultation type of input going forward.
If the Lakers are not willing to do this... We're screwed. |
This isn't even a LBJ thread and here is Mr. Gloom and Doom. |
rent free |
I actually believe LBJ getting 5 months to get his body right for 2019-20 will result in a rejuvenated and better conditioned LBJ.
I hated how he gave up on the team but I do expect a better LBJ next season. Like top 5 MVP candidate version. |
Is he going to get in shape by filming Space Jam 2? That could take up part of the offseason. |
Maybe. Fighting aliens and monsters may make him tougher and he'll have to work on defense for sure against extraterrestrials.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Darth Los Angeles wrote: | The Lakers need to clear up the perception that Klutch and LeBron are running this organization.
This is why...
The Lakers are only going to be as great as LeBron's character while he's the focal point of the team. We've seen it for years and now we finally got to see just how destructive LeBron is towards his teammates and the organization. It's going to happen as long as he's not forced to be accountable among his teammates or coaches. I'd like to see the Lakers bring in some grown men.
LeBron CANNOT be depended on for leadership or as the face of the organization. The Lakers have to treat LeBron as just another player because he showed us this year that his needs are more important than the Lakers brand. So if that means we take a route where LeBron no longer at the center of the team dynamic; so be it. LeBron is not trustworthy and doesn't deserve to have any consultation type of input going forward.
If the Lakers are not willing to do this... We're screwed. |
This isn't even a LBJ thread and here is Mr. Gloom and Doom. |
rent free |
I actually believe LBJ getting 5 months to get his body right for 2019-20 will result in a rejuvenated and better conditioned LBJ.
I hated how he gave up on the team but I do expect a better LBJ next season. Like top 5 MVP candidate version. |
Is he going to get in shape by filming Space Jam 2? That could take up part of the offseason. |
Maybe. Fighting aliens and monsters may make him tougher and he'll have to work on defense for sure against extraterrestrials. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | I made a joke earlier in this thread that the Lakers would end up this summer spending $38 million per year x 4 years on Harrison Barnes and Nikola Vucevic this summer (i.e. the modern day Deng and Mozgov contracts). Funny that people want to max out Vucevic like he actually screams championship player or something.
The irony of all of this is that Jim/Mitch played the same game Magic/Pelinka are now. Punt cap space until a free agent will take it. Then Jim put a deadline on himself, just like Magic is doing now. Then came Deng/Mozgov as a desperation move to meet the self-imposed deadline. It wouldn't shock me to Magic do the same this summer. |
Well, one did get LBJ.
But the more depressing thing is that after getting LBJ, they squandered that season with absolutely pitiful signings (28m). |
Not sure how much credit Magic should get with LBJ. I believe "LA" made that signing - not the management. LBJ wanted the LA logistics. |
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| Laker Hefe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | I made a joke earlier in this thread that the Lakers would end up this summer spending $38 million per year x 4 years on Harrison Barnes and Nikola Vucevic this summer (i.e. the modern day Deng and Mozgov contracts). Funny that people want to max out Vucevic like he actually screams championship player or something.
The irony of all of this is that Jim/Mitch played the same game Magic/Pelinka are now. Punt cap space until a free agent will take it. Then Jim put a deadline on himself, just like Magic is doing now. Then came Deng/Mozgov as a desperation move to meet the self-imposed deadline. It wouldn't shock me to Magic do the same this summer. |
Well, one did get LBJ.
But the more depressing thing is that after getting LBJ, they squandered that season with absolutely pitiful signings (28m). |
Not sure how much credit Magic should get with LBJ. I believe "LA" made that signing - not the management. LBJ wanted the LA logistics. |
I have to be objective.
I credit him for getting LBJ.
I credit him for ruining a season with LBJ.
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| LakerSD wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | The irony of all of this is that Jim/Mitch played the same game Magic/Pelinka are now. Punt cap space until a free agent will take it. Then Jim put a deadline on himself, just like Magic is doing now. Then came Deng/Mozgov as a desperation move to meet the self-imposed deadline. It wouldn't shock me to Magic do the same this summer. |
Nailed it. |
Jim and Mitch were still trying to make the playoffs post Dwightmare and were targeting Melo in 2014 and Aldridge in 2016 and when they couldn't get them, decided to tank. We already have the young talent and a superstar in place, and are now looking to use our cap space on another one. The situations are entirely different. |
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| LakerSanity wrote: | I made a joke earlier in this thread that the Lakers would end up this summer spending $38 million per year x 4 years on Harrison Barnes and Nikola Vucevic this summer (i.e. the modern day Deng and Mozgov contracts). Funny that people want to max out Vucevic like he actually screams championship player or something.
The irony of all of this is that Jim/Mitch played the same game Magic/Pelinka are now. Punt cap space until a free agent will take it. Then Jim put a deadline on himself, just like Magic is doing now. Then came Deng/Mozgov as a desperation move to meet the self-imposed deadline. It wouldn't shock me to Magic do the same this summer. |
The initial failure was when there wasn't unity between Jim and Jeannie when it was apparent that a Kobe led championship team was no longer likely and a rebuild was coming.
Since not meeting a deadline was one of the reasons to push Jim & Mitch out, then Magic & Pelinka having some type of deadline to meet is a reasonable expectation.
Whether the deadlines for both the past and current Front Offices were realistic is an entirely different question.
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| nzahir wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | I made a joke earlier in this thread that the Lakers would end up this summer spending $38 million per year x 4 years on Harrison Barnes and Nikola Vucevic this summer (i.e. the modern day Deng and Mozgov contracts). Funny that people want to max out Vucevic like he actually screams championship player or something.
The irony of all of this is that Jim/Mitch played the same game Magic/Pelinka are now. Punt cap space until a free agent will take it. Then Jim put a deadline on himself, just like Magic is doing now. Then came Deng/Mozgov as a desperation move to meet the self-imposed deadline. It wouldn't shock me to Magic do the same this summer. |
Magic promised a star, if he/Pelinka does this (it should be vetoed by Jeanie if she has a brain), they should both be fired for even bringing it up. Then they should both be run outa town
We should be in charge over Magic, we're more knowledgeable
Only options:
Kawhi, Kyrie, or trade for AD, maybe Dame
If not, hold cap space for next year. Goal is championship, not middle of road playoff team |
Magic's version of the Jim/Mitch is Cousins. He can blow smoke up our butts about how he is a star. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: |
Well, KL has already won a championship b/f so not sure why he needs advice from PG13...about what? |
 FOH |
I do think KL's mental resolve >>>> PG13's.
He isn't going to be brainwashed by a WB.
If KL wants to be a Laker, he will be a Laker.
If he wants to join the Raps or Clips he will.
PG13 has nothing to offer him but weak minded thinking. |
I understand why Lakers fans hate PG but weak minded thinking is BS. Saying he was brainwashed is BS. He’s the best player on a contender and avoided the (bleep) show that comes with playing next to LeBron. After seeing how this year unfolded, it’s hard to argue that he made the wrong decision. |
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| trablos wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | The irony of all of this is that Jim/Mitch played the same game Magic/Pelinka are now. Punt cap space until a free agent will take it. Then Jim put a deadline on himself, just like Magic is doing now. Then came Deng/Mozgov as a desperation move to meet the self-imposed deadline. It wouldn't shock me to Magic do the same this summer. |
Nailed it. |
Jim and Mitch were still trying to make the playoffs post Dwightmare and were targeting Melo in 2014 and Aldridge in 2016 and when they couldn't get them, decided to tank. We already have the young talent and a superstar in place, and are now looking to use our cap space on another one. The situations are entirely different. |
Agree to disagree.
Magic is doing the same thing Jim Buss did...which is funny because he blasted Jim (tweets out there to prove it) for the exact same things he is doing. If the Lakers do not get another legitimate Max FA this summer, it’s no different than what Jim Buss had going on.
The only difference would have been that Magic used his friend Jeanie’s pursuit for power to become president of basketball operations.
If this FO lands a legitimate Max FA then I will stfu and give them credit. Kemba, Butler, Cousins and Vucevic is not what I’m talking about. Talking Kawhi, Kyrie, etc.
If the Clippers win the Kawhi sweepstakes, that’s a huge indictment on this FO.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Laker Hefe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | I made a joke earlier in this thread that the Lakers would end up this summer spending $38 million per year x 4 years on Harrison Barnes and Nikola Vucevic this summer (i.e. the modern day Deng and Mozgov contracts). Funny that people want to max out Vucevic like he actually screams championship player or something.
The irony of all of this is that Jim/Mitch played the same game Magic/Pelinka are now. Punt cap space until a free agent will take it. Then Jim put a deadline on himself, just like Magic is doing now. Then came Deng/Mozgov as a desperation move to meet the self-imposed deadline. It wouldn't shock me to Magic do the same this summer. |
Well, one did get LBJ.
But the more depressing thing is that after getting LBJ, they squandered that season with absolutely pitiful signings (28m). |
Not sure how much credit Magic should get with LBJ. I believe "LA" made that signing - not the management. LBJ wanted the LA logistics. |
I have to be objective.
I credit him for getting LBJ.
I credit him for ruining a season with LBJ. |
Point and point. |
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dont trade the pick to NO
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who here wants Kyrie?
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Damn 1K lol
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Darth Los Angeles wrote: | The Lakers need to clear up the perception that Klutch and LeBron are running this organization.
This is why...
The Lakers are only going to be as great as LeBron's character while he's the focal point of the team. We've seen it for years and now we finally got to see just how destructive LeBron is towards his teammates and the organization. It's going to happen as long as he's not forced to be accountable among his teammates or coaches. I'd like to see the Lakers bring in some grown men.
LeBron CANNOT be depended on for leadership or as the face of the organization. The Lakers have to treat LeBron as just another player because he showed us this year that his needs are more important than the Lakers brand. So if that means we take a route where LeBron no longer at the center of the team dynamic; so be it. LeBron is not trustworthy and doesn't deserve to have any consultation type of input going forward.
If the Lakers are not willing to do this... We're screwed. |
This isn't even a LBJ thread and here is Mr. Gloom and Doom. |
rent free |
I actually believe LBJ getting 5 months to get his body right for 2019-20 will result in a rejuvenated and better conditioned LBJ.
I hated how he gave up on the team but I do expect a better LBJ next season. Like top 5 MVP candidate version. |
Is he going to get in shape by filming Space Jam 2? That could take up part of the offseason. |
is filming for space jam 2 as intense as playing playoffs bb? |
I have no idea
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LG 4 months ago: “Who do you think is going to sign here first? Durant or Kawhi or Klay?”
LG now: “We’d be lucky to get Jimmy Butler.”
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | LG 4 months ago: “Who do you think is going to sign here first? Durant or Kawhi or Klay?”
LG now: “We’d be lucky to get Jimmy Butler.” |
It seemed like a sure lock right? But now given the toxicity regarding LeBron, FO, AD trade saga, and missing the playoffs, I think this turns players away. Hope I'm wrong.
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | LG 4 months ago: “Who do you think is going to sign here first? Durant or Kawhi or Klay?”
LG now: “We’d be lucky to get Jimmy Butler.” |
4 months ago LG wouldn't mind Butler coming as FA actually. |
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