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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:06 am    Post subject:

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Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.
how was he average today?


Last year he was taking dudes off the dribble. Playing lock down defense. This year he has been silent. Dumb mistakes missing easy layups, you can look at the box score and say "hey he had solid numbers". But that doesn't tell you how he played


Got to watch the game.


You say that but you ignored the fact that Kyrie and Hayward are in this year's game and they were NOT last year.

Tatum showed skills at Duke and as a rookie. Those skills didn't disappear.


Tatum, as a player, is the same as last year. His role is not.


If you're going to chide someone for watching the game, (respectfully) please make sure you take your own advice. Tatum isn't the only BOS player not playing the same as last year and for the same reasons.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:15 am    Post subject:

I didn't watch the Leprechauns-Pacers game, only the highlights... but Jayson Christ had some clutch plays at the end that helped them win?
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Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.
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Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.
how was he average today?


Last year he was taking dudes off the dribble. Playing lock down defense. This year he has been silent. Dumb mistakes missing easy layups, you can look at the box score and say "hey he had solid numbers". But that doesn't tell you how he played


Got to watch the game.


You say that but you ignored the fact that Kyrie and Hayward are in this year's game and they were NOT last year.

Tatum showed skills at Duke and as a rookie. Those skills didn't disappear.


Tatum, as a player, is the same as last year. His role is not.


If you're going to chide someone for watching the game, (respectfully) please make sure you take your own advice. Tatum isn't the only BOS player not playing the same as last year and for the same reasons.


I will give you Kyrie, but not Hayward. Kyrie had to take over because the team wasn't getting it done
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Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because the hype is still real
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Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:26 am    Post subject:

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Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


Based on
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Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
l4kerz wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.


That's your opinion. I've heard him say how much he thinks of Ingram...It's still possible to have a package of Ingram, Hart and picks IMO...But if Boston offers Tatum and Brown or better picks he may end up there. Point is Griffin will do what's best for the Pelicans.
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King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
l4kerz wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.


That's your opinion. I've heard him say how much he thinks of Ingram...It's still possible to have a package of Ingram, Hart and picks IMO...But if Boston offers Tatum and Brown or better picks he may end up there. Point is Griffin will do what's best for the Pelicans.


And the "Pelicans" owner remains the same. If the reported Godfather offer wasn't enough, why would a lesser package with BI who now has a blood clot issue be "better?"
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:51 am    Post subject:

This feels like another PG13 "'Celtics and Lakers battling it out for star' who then gets traded to a third team no one was talking about" scenario.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:52 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
l4kerz wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.


That's your opinion. I've heard him say how much he thinks of Ingram...It's still possible to have a package of Ingram, Hart and picks IMO...But if Boston offers Tatum and Brown or better picks he may end up there. Point is Griffin will do what's best for the Pelicans.


And the "Pelicans" owner remains the same. If the reported Godfather offer wasn't enough, why would a lesser package with BI who now has a blood clot issue be "better?"


If you believe Jeanie there was no "Godfather" offer.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:53 am    Post subject:

King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
l4kerz wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.


That's your opinion. I've heard him say how much he thinks of Ingram...It's still possible to have a package of Ingram, Hart and picks IMO...But if Boston offers Tatum and Brown or better picks he may end up there. Point is Griffin will do what's best for the Pelicans.


They’ll riot on Bourbon Street if all he gets is Ingram Hart and picks. But hopefully he does it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:03 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
This feels like another PG13 "'Celtics and Lakers battling it out for star' who then gets traded to a third team no one was talking about" scenario.


Exactamundo.

Who thought PG would go to OKC/KL to the Raptors?

Lakers deal won't be enough and there's still resistance to trading a star to the Lakers.

Celts may lose Kyrie and all of a sudden want to hold onto their young guys.

So a random 3rd team (Chicago?) will try to woo AD to stay.
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Math wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
l4kerz wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.


That's your opinion. I've heard him say how much he thinks of Ingram...It's still possible to have a package of Ingram, Hart and picks IMO...But if Boston offers Tatum and Brown or better picks he may end up there. Point is Griffin will do what's best for the Pelicans.


And the "Pelicans" owner remains the same. If the reported Godfather offer wasn't enough, why would a lesser package with BI who now has a blood clot issue be "better?"


If you believe Jeanie there was no "Godfather" offer.


I don't think I can believe her.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:29 am    Post subject:

King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
l4kerz wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.


That's your opinion. I've heard him say how much he thinks of Ingram...It's still possible to have a package of Ingram, Hart and picks IMO...But if Boston offers Tatum and Brown or better picks he may end up there. Point is Griffin will do what's best for the Pelicans.


No way Ingram with bloodclot scare gets it done without Lonzo and the lottery pick.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
This feels like another PG13 "'Celtics and Lakers battling it out for star' who then gets traded to a third team no one was talking about" scenario.


Exactamundo.

Who thought PG would go to OKC/KL to the Raptors?

Lakers deal won't be enough and there's still resistance to trading a star to the Lakers.

Celts may lose Kyrie and all of a sudden want to hold onto their young guys.

So a random 3rd team (Chicago?) will try to woo AD to stay.


Still think we have the leg up if Kyrie leaves Boston and thus trading for AD doesn't make sense but I see the following teams being able to make very competitive offers for AD. Whether AD stay there or not is a different thing.

Chicago - Lotto Pick, WCJ, Lavine or Porter, Dunn (If they offer Lauri, it's over)
NY- Lotto Pick, Robinson, DSJ, Frank, Trier (makes sense if they can sign a max guy)
Wash - Lotto Pick, Beal, Future 1st (AD is a huge flight risk but that's a good offer)
Miami - Bam, Lotto Pick, Richardson, Winslow (Flight risk but Miami is hard to leave)
Denver - Murray, Milsap, Porter Jr, Future 1sts (Little depth but Jokic and AD...)

Again, I doubt AD stays in many of those places, but I think that if teams are willing to gamble, and for one reason or another some of those teams should be willing, there are good packages out there. Still think ours would be at the top of the list but you never know what Griffin values...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:30 am    Post subject:

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If you believe Jeanie there was no "Godfather" offer.


I don't think I can believe her.


Can you believe common sense?

The most ridiculous offer "leaked" - Zo, BI, Kuz, Zu, two #1s, two #2s and taking back a bad contract - should have the NOLA fans calling for Mrs. Benson to sell the team!

Who turns that offer down, even out of spite?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:30 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Math wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
l4kerz wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.


That's your opinion. I've heard him say how much he thinks of Ingram...It's still possible to have a package of Ingram, Hart and picks IMO...But if Boston offers Tatum and Brown or better picks he may end up there. Point is Griffin will do what's best for the Pelicans.


And the "Pelicans" owner remains the same. If the reported Godfather offer wasn't enough, why would a lesser package with BI who now has a blood clot issue be "better?"


If you believe Jeanie there was no "Godfather" offer.


I don't think I can believe her.


After hearing Jerry West's quotes this morning about how Ryan thinks some of the negative stuff coming out is unfair I start to wonder how much the Buss family trust, and specifically a scorned Jim, has reacted to being ousted.

How much of this negative press can be attributed to a family power struggle over the reins with an ultimate goal of removing Jeanie?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:36 am    Post subject:

Math wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Math wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
l4kerz wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.


That's your opinion. I've heard him say how much he thinks of Ingram...It's still possible to have a package of Ingram, Hart and picks IMO...But if Boston offers Tatum and Brown or better picks he may end up there. Point is Griffin will do what's best for the Pelicans.


And the "Pelicans" owner remains the same. If the reported Godfather offer wasn't enough, why would a lesser package with BI who now has a blood clot issue be "better?"


If you believe Jeanie there was no "Godfather" offer.


I don't think I can believe her.


After hearing Jerry West's quotes this morning about how Ryan thinks some of the negative stuff coming out is unfair I start to wonder how much the Buss family trust, and specifically a scorned Jim, has reacted to being ousted.

How much of this negative press can be attributed to a family power struggle over the reins with an ultimate goal of removing Jeanie?


Link?
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After hearing Jerry West's quotes this morning about how Ryan thinks some of the negative stuff coming out is unfair I start to wonder how much the Buss family trust, and specifically a scorned Jim, has reacted to being ousted.

How much of this negative press can be attributed to a family power struggle over the reins with an ultimate goal of removing Jeanie?


I'm sure there's some. But I mean do we need any evidence? Magic frickin' resigned. Lakers have the worst record in the NBA for the past 6 years combined. We get LBJ and miss the playoffs. Luke is gone. I mean the dysfunction and impotence of this team is fairly evident (even if there's a possibility that things can turn around this summer).
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After hearing Jerry West's quotes this morning about how Ryan thinks some of the negative stuff coming out is unfair I start to wonder how much the Buss family trust, and specifically a scorned Jim, has reacted to being ousted.

How much of this negative press can be attributed to a family power struggle over the reins with an ultimate goal of removing Jeanie?


*** I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF THIS ***

I have long suspected that there are posters here who are *tasked* with posting anti-Jeanie items and whip up sentiment to disparage her and get her to sell the team (which is reportedly an aim of Jimmy and Johnnie). They then use their burner accounts to support their posts, which is why there'll be a 30-quote chain of dittos.

Just my humble opinion.
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Math wrote:
After hearing Jerry West's quotes this morning about how Ryan thinks some of the negative stuff coming out is unfair I start to wonder how much the Buss family trust, and specifically a scorned Jim, has reacted to being ousted.

How much of this negative press can be attributed to a family power struggle over the reins with an ultimate goal of removing Jeanie?


*** I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF THIS ***

I have long suspected that there are posters here who are *tasked* with posting anti-Jeanie items and whip up sentiment to disparage her and get her to sell the team (which is reportedly an aim of Jimmy and Johnnie). They then use their burner accounts to support their posts, which is why there'll be a 30-quote chain of dittos.

Just my humble opinion.


Wow. Tinfoil hat time.
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Jesusdelonla wrote:
Math wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Math wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
l4kerz wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Watching Boston I could see them getting AD. They will add Tatum he looks average right now.

If Tatum looks average, why would NO want him?


Because he's not on the Lakers.


Griffin is different. He will absolutely want the best package...even if its the Lakers. He's not influenced by Pop or anyone else.


His owner remains the same. And they did not want to trade AD to the Lakers. Just like the Pacers. Just like the Spurs.

We will have to either sign them as FAs or have home grown ones.


That's your opinion. I've heard him say how much he thinks of Ingram...It's still possible to have a package of Ingram, Hart and picks IMO...But if Boston offers Tatum and Brown or better picks he may end up there. Point is Griffin will do what's best for the Pelicans.


And the "Pelicans" owner remains the same. If the reported Godfather offer wasn't enough, why would a lesser package with BI who now has a blood clot issue be "better?"


If you believe Jeanie there was no "Godfather" offer.


I don't think I can believe her.


After hearing Jerry West's quotes this morning about how Ryan thinks some of the negative stuff coming out is unfair I start to wonder how much the Buss family trust, and specifically a scorned Jim, has reacted to being ousted.

How much of this negative press can be attributed to a family power struggle over the reins with an ultimate goal of removing Jeanie?


Link?


He was on the Dan Patrick show.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:47 am    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
Math wrote:
After hearing Jerry West's quotes this morning about how Ryan thinks some of the negative stuff coming out is unfair I start to wonder how much the Buss family trust, and specifically a scorned Jim, has reacted to being ousted.

How much of this negative press can be attributed to a family power struggle over the reins with an ultimate goal of removing Jeanie?


*** I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF THIS ***

I have long suspected that there are posters here who are *tasked* with posting anti-Jeanie items and whip up sentiment to disparage her and get her to sell the team (which is reportedly an aim of Jimmy and Johnnie). They then use their burner accounts to support their posts, which is why there'll be a 30-quote chain of dittos.

Just my humble opinion.


Oh this is very obvious you can see there are some posters that are here just to create mayhem and hatred towards Jeanne and the FO. Some of these people are not Laker fans just outsiders trying to destroy this organization. Probably over 90% of what is stated here is false, and that also includes the media. The Lakers need to be very tight lipped and try to remove those that leak out information.
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