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yinoma2001
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AD will be the most lucrative trade we've seen in a while if he's even put on the trading block.
An in-prime, all-NBA, MVP/HOF caliber player? Damn, it's going to be a bidding frenzy.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | I still do not see a path this year or next. This year the salaries will not match and both teams are above the cap. I do not think the Celts would do Al or Hayward dirty next year. Kyrie is the problem for them. They are worried because he told them last year he would sign with the NY. Now he is saying he will resign. Has anyone even come up with a realistic scenario of a trade in regards to salaries? I would love to see it. |
AD makes 27m in 2019-20.
Smart = 12.5 (2019-20 salaries)
Brown = 6.5
Rozier = 4.2
Boom you're basically there.
Throw in a 2019 Sacto and Memphis pick and I can't see how any team beats that. |
My bad. You are correct. I did not think the Celts could do this because they are way over the cap and they are bringing in more salary than sending out. Thanks. |
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yinoma2001
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| RI Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | I still do not see a path this year or next. This year the salaries will not match and both teams are above the cap. I do not think the Celts would do Al or Hayward dirty next year. Kyrie is the problem for them. They are worried because he told them last year he would sign with the NY. Now he is saying he will resign. Has anyone even come up with a realistic scenario of a trade in regards to salaries? I would love to see it. |
AD makes 27m in 2019-20.
Smart = 12.5 (2019-20 salaries)
Brown = 6.5
Rozier = 4.2
Boom you're basically there.
Throw in a 2019 Sacto and Memphis pick and I can't see how any team beats that. |
My bad. You are correct. I did not think the Celts could do this because they are way over the cap and they are bringing in more salary. Thanks. |
It makes me sick b/c of the trade assets they posses. They can trade ALL that still have:
Kyrie
Tatum
Hayward
Horford
AD
Good lord.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| So if they do not do it before the deadline, than would they be out of the running next year? |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | So if they do not do it before the deadline, than would they be out of the running next year? |
No. Celts CANNOT do that trade this year b/c it would violate the Rose rules (i.e. can't trade for two Rose rule players, Kyrie being one already).
It would have to be next season (which is why I added next season salaries).
And I don't see why the Pels trade AD right now, fully knowing the best deal (Celts) can't be made until next season.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | GET US A BACKUP CENTER ASAP.
That is all. |
Yeah no doubt.
Watching the game last night it was so evident we need a back up 5.
McGee is a great fit with the first unit, but his PT is limited.
Really too bad Zub is such a dud. I was excited when we drafted him. I thought he was in the mold of Jokic/Nurkic, and hoped that by now (year 3), he'd be a solid NBA contributor.
Imagine a bonafide 8-6 backup 5. (Think Nurkic in Denver a few years ago)
Kuz back to 4 where he belongs.
Lonzo (I believe we have too much invested in him not to start him)
Hart (may be a better fit than KCP with the first unit)
BI
LBJ
McGee (great fit with this unit)
Rondo (need his steadying influence on the 2nd unit, and see above on Zo)
KCP
Lance
Kuz
Solid back up 5
Finish with small ball lineup (Zo/Hart/BI/Kuz/LBJ)
I'd even roll with Hart at the 1 in the small lineup if Zo/Rondo can't hit 3s or FTs.
That would be a really solid, deep team.
Maybe Mo can help fill the roll.
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Someone like Dedmon would fit right in. But we can't really trade for him now until our summer signings become trade-able (12/15).
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KCP is the most worthless signing followed by Lance and then beast
Magic build a playoffs team but they need to make playoffs 1st |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | AD will be the most lucrative trade we've seen in a while if he's even put on the trading block.
An in-prime, all-NBA, MVP/HOF caliber player? Damn, it's going to be a bidding frenzy. |
Not if he has only one year left and gives the vibe to most teams that he won't re-sign. Just like KL did. He's the biggest star to have been on the trade market in recent years and offers weren't mind-blowing. AD has Rich Paul representing him so if the objective is to team up with LeBron, they won't make it easy for NO to trade him to other teams. His value might not be what NO expects.
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| saetarubia wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | AD will be the most lucrative trade we've seen in a while if he's even put on the trading block.
An in-prime, all-NBA, MVP/HOF caliber player? Damn, it's going to be a bidding frenzy. |
Not if he has only one year left and gives the vibe to most teams that he won't re-sign. Just like KL did. He's the biggest star to have been on the trade market and offers weren't mind-blowing. AD has Rich Paul representing him so if the objective is to team up with LeBron, they won't make it easy for NO to trade him to other teams. His value might not be what NO expects. |
Nah. KL was coming off an injury and had the bizarre relationship with the Spurs. The value damage was his own.
I doubt he turns down the Celts if they want him. That's a championship core right there while the Lakers would be stripping itself thin to trade for him.
NO is getting a ton of assets back. Book it.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | I still do not see a path this year or next. This year the salaries will not match and both teams are above the cap. I do not think the Celts would do Al or Hayward dirty next year. Kyrie is the problem for them. They are worried because he told them last year he would sign with the NY. Now he is saying he will resign. Has anyone even come up with a realistic scenario of a trade in regards to salaries? I would love to see it. |
AD makes 27m in 2019-20.
Smart = 12.5 (2019-20 salaries)
Brown = 6.5
Rozier = 4.2
Boom you're basically there.
Throw in a 2019 Sacto and Memphis pick and I can't see how any team beats that. |
Your post induces my gag reflex. I am dry-heaving at the thought of Boston with AD. Gotta go grab a trash can.  |
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| Ziggy wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | I still do not see a path this year or next. This year the salaries will not match and both teams are above the cap. I do not think the Celts would do Al or Hayward dirty next year. Kyrie is the problem for them. They are worried because he told them last year he would sign with the NY. Now he is saying he will resign. Has anyone even come up with a realistic scenario of a trade in regards to salaries? I would love to see it. |
AD makes 27m in 2019-20.
Smart = 12.5 (2019-20 salaries)
Brown = 6.5
Rozier = 4.2
Boom you're basically there.
Throw in a 2019 Sacto and Memphis pick and I can't see how any team beats that. |
Your post induces my gag reflex. I am dry-heaving at the thought of Boston with AD. Gotta go grab a trash can. |
I know. I had tears streaming down my face as I check the salaries on Basketball Insiders.
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86. How do simultaneous trades work? How much salary can a team take back in a simultaneous trade?
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Taxpaying Teams Outgoing salary.......Maximum incoming salary
Any..................................................125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000
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Do the calculations in reverse order.
$27,093,019......Davis 2019 - 20 Salary
- $100,000
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$26,993,019
รท 1.25
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$21,594,415.20
Round up to $21,594,416
Then work it forward to verify.
$21,594,416
X 1.25
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$26,993,020
+ $100,000
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$27,093,020
That is $1 over the $27,093,019 (Davis 2019 - 20 Salary) above.
So offering a package with $21,594,416 in salary appears to be good with CBA rules. |
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| saetarubia wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | AD will be the most lucrative trade we've seen in a while if he's even put on the trading block.
An in-prime, all-NBA, MVP/HOF caliber player? Damn, it's going to be a bidding frenzy. |
Not if he has only one year left and gives the vibe to most teams that he won't re-sign. Just like KL did. He's the biggest star to have been on the trade market and offers weren't mind-blowing. AD has Rich Paul representing him so if the objective is to team up with LeBron, they won't make it easy for NO to trade him to other teams. His value might not be what NO expects. |
He could pick up his trade kicker and complicate things for the teams he doesnt want to go to. Also, threat of not resigning. Thats about all he and his camp can do. Not too confident with that strategy. Have to hope that if he doesnt ended in LA, he should want to sign in New york in 2020 (assuming we are capped out) |
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I wouldn't make that trade if I were the Pelicans unless I was desperate and got no other offers. Except for Brown they are flashy but inefficient players.
I'd rather do what the Spurs did and go after one all star that was a notch below AD paired with another guy who fills a need instead of three guys who aren't quite there yet. Maybe Brown or Rozier will move up to that next level but I'm sure they can find someone who already is there. |
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| chantruong wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | AD will be the most lucrative trade we've seen in a while if he's even put on the trading block.
An in-prime, all-NBA, MVP/HOF caliber player? Damn, it's going to be a bidding frenzy. |
Not if he has only one year left and gives the vibe to most teams that he won't re-sign. Just like KL did. He's the biggest star to have been on the trade market and offers weren't mind-blowing. AD has Rich Paul representing him so if the objective is to team up with LeBron, they won't make it easy for NO to trade him to other teams. His value might not be what NO expects. |
He could pick up his trade kicker and complicate things for the teams he doesnt want to go to. Also, threat of not resigning. Thats about all he and his camp can do. Not too confident with that strategy. Have to hope that if he doesnt ended in LA, he should want to sign in New york in 2020 (assuming we are capped out) |
AD strikes me as someone who is on a biological championship winning clock and would not turn down the Celts. In fact they're my lead bet for getting him, as much as the thought of that hurts me.
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | I wouldn't make that trade if I were the Pelicans unless I was desperate and got no other offers. Except for Brown they are flashy but inefficient players.
I'd rather do what the Spurs did and go after one all star that was a notch below AD paired with another guy who fills a need instead of three guys who aren't quite there yet. Maybe Brown or Rozier will move up to that next level but I'm sure they can find someone who already is there. |
But they'd have to rebuild. And getting two young players to start at PG/SF (currently their biggest weaknesses), a bulldog defender in Smart, and 2 lottery picks is a great way to do that.
What does the equivalent "DROZ" deal do for them? Nothing.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | I wouldn't make that trade if I were the Pelicans unless I was desperate and got no other offers. Except for Brown they are flashy but inefficient players.
I'd rather do what the Spurs did and go after one all star that was a notch below AD paired with another guy who fills a need instead of three guys who aren't quite there yet. Maybe Brown or Rozier will move up to that next level but I'm sure they can find someone who already is there. |
But they'd have to rebuild. And getting two young players to start at PG/SF (currently their biggest weaknesses), a bulldog defender in Smart, and 2 lottery picks is a great way to do that.
What does the equivalent "DROZ" deal do for them? Nothing. |
With two lotto picks... I suppose that would be a good deal... but otherwise I don't know. I doubt Boston would give that much.
I thought you were only saying one pick. |
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| who cares about boston celtics. lets move on |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | who cares about boston celtics. lets move on |
This is the free agency/trades thread. You can certainly move on. 
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | who cares about boston celtics. lets move on |
This is the free agency/trades thread. You can certainly move on. |
but u forgot, this is lakers forum, not celtics |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | who cares about boston celtics. lets move on |
This is the free agency/trades thread. You can certainly move on. |
but u forgot, this is lakers forum, not celtics |
Jason Tatum (with the help of Kobe) will remind us of the Celtics for many years to come... |
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I've wanted him for a while.
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| Emeka Okafor is available...just saying. He could be a decent enough backup C for us if he's only playing 15mpg. |
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