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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | I know we have gone back and forth on the young core. Max Kellerman thinks based on Magic’s first take appearance few days ago; that Magic is staying hush on the 2 “steals” Hart and Kuzma, while pumping up Ingram/Lonzo because he sees them as the ones ultimately packaged in a deal for a star.
Everyone has their own opinion, but I thought that was a pretty interesting take and I know others on LG have brought up that they think Magic/Lakers FO is trying to inflate value of certain players. |
Yet Kuzma's the worst out of the four at everything except pointz! and Ingram and Ball clearly have more upside than Hart.
Ball and Ingram are more likely to be traded than the other two because they're more talented. Other teams will want them more. Kellerman is coming up with an unfalsifiable hypothesis where he'll be "proven right" by the most likely outcome. |
I don’t disagree. It’s still early but these guys need to step up.
If I had to guess I would say around the league it’s Kuz/Ingram followed by Lonzo/Hart but that’s because I don’t think executives truly understand Lonzo’s game and it doesn’t help that there is the Ball family circus surrounding him.
Anyway, still some time left but all 4 have things they need to work on and improve and do it fast...Magic and Lebron will be patient but only to a certain extent imo. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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^ I'm actually glad that the media pumps up Kuzma.
Greater trade value if needed. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Right now as of a small 2 game sample we do not have a true number 2 option. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:23 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Right now as of a small 2 game sample we do not have a true number 2 option. |
Hard to be a second option with no touches. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:33 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Right now as of a small 2 game sample we do not have a true number 2 option. |
The guy who can be, We r making him play out of position, banging on dudes who 30-50 pounds heavier and who got 2/3 inches on him |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Right now as of a small 2 game sample we do not have a true number 2 option. |
They may have no one who can reliably create his own shot outside of Lebron and Stephenson. _________________ Under New Management |
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Mustaine Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:45 am Post subject: |
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We need a center.
It's painful to watch us play with Kuz at 5. |
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Practice Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Right now as of a small 2 game sample we do not have a true number 2 option. |
The guy who can be, We r making him play out of position, banging on dudes who 30-50 pounds heavier and who got 2/3 inches on him |
Kuzma needs to find his jumper and show that he can guard any position first. |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Brandon hasn’t had a chance To prove if he’s a second option or not imo. The ball doesn’t touch anyone’s hands consistently outside of Lebron, Rondo and JaVale. |
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Mustaine wrote: | We need a center.
It's painful to watch us play with Kuz at 5. |
Asik just got waived. It’s been awhile since I saw or heard of him but my last sighting was he’s at least decent defensively. Can play pick and roll and little else. |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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I’d honestly play Zubac over Kuzma at center at this point. _________________ |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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24Legend007 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Trade KCP/Beasley/Zubac or Caruso/1st for Walker/Kaminsky
A little early and U hate to give a first, but that team has more versatility this season and is more dangerous imo.
Walker/Rondo
Lonzo/Hart
Ingram/Stephenson
Lebron/Kuzma
McGee/Kaminsky |
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Chad09 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure I would give him the max with his knee issues. |
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Chad09 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thunder & Lakers are dead last in team 3 point %. Both haven't won a game. 23.9/24.2 |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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24Legend007 wrote: | Trade KCP/Beasley/Zubac or Caruso/1st for Walker/Kaminsky
A little early and U hate to give a first, but that team has more versatility this season and is more dangerous imo.
Walker/Rondo
Lonzo/Hart
Ingram/Stephenson
Lebron/Kuzma
McGee/Kaminsky |
Would love Walker on this team and Kaminsky another big who can stretch the floor... and would give us a boost at the big man position. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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24Legend007 wrote: | Trade KCP/Beasley/Zubac or Caruso/1st for Walker/Kaminsky
A little early and U hate to give a first, but that team has more versatility this season and is more dangerous imo.
Walker/Rondo
Lonzo/Hart
Ingram/Stephenson
Lebron/Kuzma
McGee/Kaminsky |
Why r the hornets trading their best player for pile of ? |
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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After Dec 15 - what big are we trading KCP for?
Do we attach a 1st and go for someone good?
Or attach a 2nd and just go for someone solis?
- Dedmon
- Tyson Chandler
- Marc Gasol
- Cauley Stein _________________ 24 |
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lukewaltonsdad Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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24Legend007 wrote: | Trade KCP/Beasley/Zubac or Caruso/1st for Walker/Kaminsky
A little early and U hate to give a first, but that team has more versatility this season and is more dangerous imo.
Walker/Rondo
Lonzo/Hart
Ingram/Stephenson
Lebron/Kuzma
McGee/Kaminsky |
I'd take a look at Walker... |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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lukewaltonsdad wrote: | 24Legend007 wrote: | Trade KCP/Beasley/Zubac or Caruso/1st for Walker/Kaminsky
A little early and U hate to give a first, but that team has more versatility this season and is more dangerous imo.
Walker/Rondo
Lonzo/Hart
Ingram/Stephenson
Lebron/Kuzma
McGee/Kaminsky |
I'd take a look at Walker... |
Ironically he can be LeBron’s Irving |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | After Dec 15 - what big are we trading KCP for?
Do we attach a 1st and go for someone good?
Or attach a 2nd and just go for someone solis?
- Dedmon
- Tyson Chandler
- Marc Gasol
- Cauley Stein |
KCP is not going to give his approval for a trade. |
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chantruong Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | After Dec 15 - what big are we trading KCP for?
Do we attach a 1st and go for someone good?
Or attach a 2nd and just go for someone solis?
- Dedmon
- Tyson Chandler
- Marc Gasol
- Cauley Stein |
KCP is not going to give his approval for a trade. |
He might if we bench him and sort things out with his agent with the prospect of his Free Agency |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Right now as of a small 2 game sample we do not have a true number 2 option. |
They may have no one who can reliably create his own shot outside of Lebron and Stephenson. |
I'm already thawing on going after Kemba. |
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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24Legend007 wrote: | Trade KCP/Beasley/Zubac or Caruso/1st for Walker/Kaminsky
A little early and U hate to give a first, but that team has more versatility this season and is more dangerous imo.
Walker/Rondo
Lonzo/Hart
Ingram/Stephenson
Lebron/Kuzma
McGee/Kaminsky |
No way the Hornets accept that 😂 |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:21 am Post subject: |
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24Legend007 wrote: | Trade KCP/Beasley/Zubac or Caruso/1st for Walker/Kaminsky
A little early and U hate to give a first, but that team has more versatility this season and is more dangerous imo.
Walker/Rondo
Lonzo/Hart
Ingram/Stephenson
Lebron/Kuzma
McGee/Kaminsky |
Well, if you throw in Caruso, how could Michael Jordan turn down that trade? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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