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LakerMindLA
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| The Lebrons wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | We have KCP's bird rights? |
That's correct, Early Bird I believe. Yay us. |
This is actually good in my view. He's a rotation guy at worst, and we can use his salary in a trade since he'll be an expiring.
He's 100% coming back. No way he gets a better offer than 1year/10mill. |
Should be signing him for a deal at $4-5m and then you can pay him way more once you have his bird rights.
Bullock's cap hold is already extremely value.
Wish we still had Zubac so you could give him lot of money as a RFA and then use that as a trade filler later in the year. |
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | We have KCP's bird rights? |
That's correct, Early Bird I believe. Yay us. |
This is actually good in my view. He's a rotation guy at worst, and we can use his salary in a trade since he'll be an expiring.
He's 100% coming back. No way he gets a better offer than 1year/10mill. |
Should be signing him for a deal at $4-5m and then you can pay him way more once you have his bird rights.
Bullock's cap hold is already extremely value.
Wish we still had Zubac so you could give him lot of money as a RFA and then use that as a trade filler later in the year. |
I would pay him more just to create a larger salary for potential trades. Say we land AD, we're pretty capped out. If we sign KCP to a 1 year/15mill deal, we could theoretically be players to trade for a guy with 3 years left that a team wants to clear. |
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ChickenStu
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | We have KCP's bird rights? |
That's correct, Early Bird I believe. Yay us. |
This is actually good in my view. He's a rotation guy at worst, and we can use his salary in a trade since he'll be an expiring.
He's 100% coming back. No way he gets a better offer than 1year/10mill. |
Should be signing him for a deal at $4-5m and then you can pay him way more once you have his bird rights.
Bullock's cap hold is already extremely value.
Wish we still had Zubac so you could give him lot of money as a RFA and then use that as a trade filler later in the year. |
You have to release Bullock's hold if you want to sign a 30% max free agent, assuming we keep the #4's hold on the books through free agency. |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| only way I would want to keep KCP is if he signed for Vet Minimum....then we can overpay him next summer for 2 years to make up for it with full Bird Rights....just align his services with Lebrons. |
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cital
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| What is DLo's max start at? Thanks |
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cital
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| cital wrote: | | What does DLo's max start at? Thanks |
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The Lebrons
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A name I haven't seen mentioned, if we get AD, and strike out on free agents...
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ChickenStu
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| cital wrote: | | What is DLo's max start at? Thanks |
Whatever 25% of $109MM is, it should be. So it should be $27.25MM. |
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saetarubia
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Pelicans value Kyle Kuzma more than Lonzo Ball.
However, before the two sides reach a deal, the Lakers have to decide how much they’re willing to give up for Davis. According to Marc Stein of The New York Times, the Lakers have offered Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram and the No. 4 pick, but they’ve been reluctant to offer anything else. To be more specific, they haven’t been able to talk themselves into parting ways with Kyle Kuzma, according to Tania Ganguli and Broderick Tuner of the Los Angeles Times:
The Pelicans are interested in three of the Lakers’ young players — whether that’s Kuzma, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram or Josh Hart — and the No. 4 draft pick in order to acquire Davis, according to people familiar with the trade discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly. It’s possible New Orleans could use the No. 4 pick to acquire a player from a third team
Among the young Lakers, New Orleans covets Kuzma the most.
While it’s unlikely the Lakers would let a deal for a perennial All-Star in Davis pass them by for Kuzma, who is only three years younger than Davis, they seem to really like him:
According to people familiar with the Lakers’ thinking, Kuzma has ingratiated himself with the organization both on the court and off, and management does not want to trade the forward, who is entering his third season. The Lakers might have an opportunity to keep their No. 4 pick should they agree to part with Kuzma.
https://lonzowire.usatoday.com/2019/06/12/la-lakers-anthony-davis-trade-rumors-pelicans-value-kyle-kuzma-more-than-lonzo-ball/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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adkindo
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | cital wrote: | | What is DLo's max start at? Thanks |
Whatever 25% of $109MM is, it should be. So it should be $27.25MM. |
rather give a 23 year old DLo a 4 year deal more than a 29 year old Kemba |
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realking24
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| saetarubia wrote: | Pelicans value Kyle Kuzma more than Lonzo Ball.
However, before the two sides reach a deal, the Lakers have to decide how much they’re willing to give up for Davis. According to Marc Stein of The New York Times, the Lakers have offered Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram and the No. 4 pick, but they’ve been reluctant to offer anything else. To be more specific, they haven’t been able to talk themselves into parting ways with Kyle Kuzma, according to Tania Ganguli and Broderick Tuner of the Los Angeles Times:
The Pelicans are interested in three of the Lakers’ young players — whether that’s Kuzma, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram or Josh Hart — and the No. 4 draft pick in order to acquire Davis, according to people familiar with the trade discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly. It’s possible New Orleans could use the No. 4 pick to acquire a player from a third team
Among the young Lakers, New Orleans covets Kuzma the most.
While it’s unlikely the Lakers would let a deal for a perennial All-Star in Davis pass them by for Kuzma, who is only three years younger than Davis, they seem to really like him:
According to people familiar with the Lakers’ thinking, Kuzma has ingratiated himself with the organization both on the court and off, and management does not want to trade the forward, who is entering his third season. The Lakers might have an opportunity to keep their No. 4 pick should they agree to part with Kuzma.
https://lonzowire.usatoday.com/2019/06/12/la-lakers-anthony-davis-trade-rumors-pelicans-value-kyle-kuzma-more-than-lonzo-ball/amp/?__twitter_impression=true |
Keep 4 and Get AD would be amazing |
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adkindo
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| saetarubia wrote: | Pelicans value Kyle Kuzma more than Lonzo Ball.
However, before the two sides reach a deal, the Lakers have to decide how much they’re willing to give up for Davis. According to Marc Stein of The New York Times, the Lakers have offered Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram and the No. 4 pick, but they’ve been reluctant to offer anything else. To be more specific, they haven’t been able to talk themselves into parting ways with Kyle Kuzma, according to Tania Ganguli and Broderick Tuner of the Los Angeles Times:
The Pelicans are interested in three of the Lakers’ young players — whether that’s Kuzma, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram or Josh Hart — and the No. 4 draft pick in order to acquire Davis, according to people familiar with the trade discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly. It’s possible New Orleans could use the No. 4 pick to acquire a player from a third team
Among the young Lakers, New Orleans covets Kuzma the most.
While it’s unlikely the Lakers would let a deal for a perennial All-Star in Davis pass them by for Kuzma, who is only three years younger than Davis, they seem to really like him:
According to people familiar with the Lakers’ thinking, Kuzma has ingratiated himself with the organization both on the court and off, and management does not want to trade the forward, who is entering his third season. The Lakers might have an opportunity to keep their No. 4 pick should they agree to part with Kuzma.
https://lonzowire.usatoday.com/2019/06/12/la-lakers-anthony-davis-trade-rumors-pelicans-value-kyle-kuzma-more-than-lonzo-ball/amp/?__twitter_impression=true |
if you take out the #4 for Kuzma....then you have to add in Hart and Wagner to make the money work....if you are hoping to sign a max free agent 1st. That said, I would take the #4 over Kuzma. |
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Beir32
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| The Lebrons wrote: | A name I haven't seen mentioned, if we get AD, and strike out on free agents...
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Kevin Love |
That would go over well around here. Another guy who misses huge chunks of the season. |
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ChickenStu
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | cital wrote: | | What is DLo's max start at? Thanks |
Whatever 25% of $109MM is, it should be. So it should be $27.25MM. |
rather give a 23 year old DLo a 4 year deal more than a 29 year old Kemba |
I totally agree with this, actually. I just think it's remarkably unlikely that Dlo crosses that bridge again, even with Magic out of the picture. If Dlo somehow became an unrestricted free agent because the Nets renounce him, my guess is that he goes to play with his friend Booker in Phoenix, or maybe to Dallas, or maybe even to the Knicks. Even though we'd give him a great chance to compete for a ring (if we got AD) and even though he'd be a good fit if we lose Lonzo (because then we'd possibly need 2 starting guards), I just can't see him agreeing to come back here. But I suppose stranger things have happened. |
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Beir32
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| realking24 wrote: | | saetarubia wrote: | Pelicans value Kyle Kuzma more than Lonzo Ball.
However, before the two sides reach a deal, the Lakers have to decide how much they’re willing to give up for Davis. According to Marc Stein of The New York Times, the Lakers have offered Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram and the No. 4 pick, but they’ve been reluctant to offer anything else. To be more specific, they haven’t been able to talk themselves into parting ways with Kyle Kuzma, according to Tania Ganguli and Broderick Tuner of the Los Angeles Times:
The Pelicans are interested in three of the Lakers’ young players — whether that’s Kuzma, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram or Josh Hart — and the No. 4 draft pick in order to acquire Davis, according to people familiar with the trade discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly. It’s possible New Orleans could use the No. 4 pick to acquire a player from a third team
Among the young Lakers, New Orleans covets Kuzma the most.
While it’s unlikely the Lakers would let a deal for a perennial All-Star in Davis pass them by for Kuzma, who is only three years younger than Davis, they seem to really like him:
According to people familiar with the Lakers’ thinking, Kuzma has ingratiated himself with the organization both on the court and off, and management does not want to trade the forward, who is entering his third season. The Lakers might have an opportunity to keep their No. 4 pick should they agree to part with Kuzma.
https://lonzowire.usatoday.com/2019/06/12/la-lakers-anthony-davis-trade-rumors-pelicans-value-kyle-kuzma-more-than-lonzo-ball/amp/?__twitter_impression=true |
Keep 4 and Get AD would be amazing |
Keeping a draft pick instead of a rotation player who plays well with Lebron doesn't fit for a team in "win now" mode. |
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levon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Honestly just get this (bleep) done so we can all move on with our lives |
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realking24
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| adkindo wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | cital wrote: | | What is DLo's max start at? Thanks |
Whatever 25% of $109MM is, it should be. So it should be $27.25MM. |
rather give a 23 year old DLo a 4 year deal more than a 29 year old Kemba |
I’m sure the ship has sailed but if no one is coming FA and we are trading for AD I wouldn’t mind Russell back. I realize he’s not a world beater but decent shooter and passer would fit nicely. |
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realking24
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| levon wrote: | | Honestly just get this (bleep) done so we can all move on with our lives |
Seriously |
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cital
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hear me out on DLo... If we pull off a Davis deal, but then can't land any of the top tier free agents, DLo would be a very nice pickup, plus because of his starting salary of 27.25, we would have an additional 5.45 in cap space, which is enough to hold onto Bullock's hold. We could resign Bullock (or another free agent with the cap space), plus we would have the 4.76 million room exception to use on another player...
Russell
Bullock/Hart
James
Kuzma
Davis/Wagner
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The Lebrons
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Lebron/AD/DLO
Can you say superteam? |
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Beir32
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| realking24 wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | cital wrote: | | What is DLo's max start at? Thanks |
Whatever 25% of $109MM is, it should be. So it should be $27.25MM. |
rather give a 23 year old DLo a 4 year deal more than a 29 year old Kemba |
I’m sure the ship has sailed but if no one is coming FA and we are trading for AD I wouldn’t mind Russell back. I realize he’s not a world beater but decent shooter and passer would fit nicely. |
I don't see why Russell would want any part of this organization. We sold him for an empty chair after throwing him under the bus on his way out of town. We didn't exactly treat him great when he was supposed to be a part of our future either. |
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LakerLogic
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| Can you say no defense? |
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| Someone hit us with a “my body is read” scenario. 😝 |
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ChickenStu
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| Beir32 wrote: | | realking24 wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | cital wrote: | | What is DLo's max start at? Thanks |
Whatever 25% of $109MM is, it should be. So it should be $27.25MM. |
rather give a 23 year old DLo a 4 year deal more than a 29 year old Kemba |
I’m sure the ship has sailed but if no one is coming FA and we are trading for AD I wouldn’t mind Russell back. I realize he’s not a world beater but decent shooter and passer would fit nicely. |
I don't see why Russell would want any part of this organization. We sold him for an empty chair after throwing him under the bus on his way out of town. We didn't exactly treat him great when he was supposed to be a part of our future either. |
At least Byron and Magic are gone, but yes, I just can't see it. He'll have other options, and he'll likely be much happier somewhere else. |
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