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LKA
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | mookielala wrote: | | Realistically, we aren't going to hear anything reliable until at least July 1, right? |
I guarantee Pelinka is smarter than people like to believe lol |
Name 1 move so far that shows this.
So far he has proven over and over again that he has no clue how to build a team. |
Personally I don't agree with you. Magic showed he had no idea how to build a team. It's obvious he's the one that wanted Rondo Lance and Beasley because we had "too many nice guys".
I'm willing to bet the only thing Magic allowed Pelinka to take part in was the Clarkson and Nance trade. Because that took a little use of brain.
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CamReddish
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | mookielala wrote: | | Realistically, we aren't going to hear anything reliable until at least July 1, right? |
I guarantee Pelinka is smarter than people like to believe lol |
Name 1 move so far that shows this.
So far he has proven over and over again that he has no clue how to build a team. |
Just got a top 5 26 year old player.
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| If they sign KL, they should sign Beverley as PG. |
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| noahp45 wrote: | | If they sign KL, they should sign Beverley as PG. |
Won’t have the $ probly |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | If they sign KL, they should sign Beverley as PG. |
Won’t have the $ probly |
that's where the challenge lies.
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| LBJ23 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | mookielala wrote: | | Realistically, we aren't going to hear anything reliable until at least July 1, right? |
I guarantee Pelinka is smarter than people like to believe lol |
Name 1 move so far that shows this.
So far he has proven over and over again that he has no clue how to build a team. |
Just got a top 5 26 year old player. |
With that we gave up, you could have been the GM and gotten the same deal.
He couldn’t even get the timing right so we have room to sign a max. |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | mookielala wrote: | | Realistically, we aren't going to hear anything reliable until at least July 1, right? |
I guarantee Pelinka is smarter than people like to believe lol |
Name 1 move so far that shows this.
So far he has proven over and over again that he has no clue how to build a team. |
Just got a top 5 26 year old player. |
With that we gave up, you could have been the GM and gotten the same deal.
He couldn’t even get the timing right so we have room to sign a max. |
I must have missed free agency passing by without us signing a max player. |
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noahp45
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | If they sign KL, they should sign Beverley as PG. |
Won’t have the $ probly |
Then bump KL, let's use the 32 mil to get some legit pieces.
4 players atleast! |
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AllorNothing
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | mookielala wrote: | | Realistically, we aren't going to hear anything reliable until at least July 1, right? |
I guarantee Pelinka is smarter than people like to believe lol |
Name 1 move so far that shows this.
So far he has proven over and over again that he has no clue how to build a team. |
Just got a top 5 26 year old player. |
With that we gave up, you could have been the GM and gotten the same deal.
He couldn’t even get the timing right so we have room to sign a max. |
Pelinka must be clever enough to not be fired. |
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| noahp45 wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | If they sign KL, they should sign Beverley as PG. |
Won’t have the $ probly |
Then bump KL, let's use the 32 mil to get some legit pieces.
4 players atleast! |
We might not have 32. We might have 24. All depends on when the trade goes through, and so far reports aren’t encouraging. |
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Happy Father's day. Anthony Davis! In 2.5 years we turned Mozgov and Deng into Lebron and AD! We now have between $23M and $33M in capspace plus $6M room exception. Very excited for this free agency.
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LKA
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| Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| noahp45 wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | If they sign KL, they should sign Beverley as PG. |
Won’t have the $ probly |
Then bump KL, let's use the 32 mil to get some legit pieces.
4 players atleast! |
Normally I'd agree
But it's hard to say bump Kawhi. One has to think those 3 wouldn't lose to anyone... kinda regardless of who else is on the team lol
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| Username wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | mookielala wrote: | | Realistically, we aren't going to hear anything reliable until at least July 1, right? |
I guarantee Pelinka is smarter than people like to believe lol |
Name 1 move so far that shows this.
So far he has proven over and over again that he has no clue how to build a team. |
Just got a top 5 26 year old player. |
With that we gave up, you could have been the GM and gotten the same deal.
He couldn’t even get the timing right so we have room to sign a max. |
I must have missed free agency passing by without us signing a max player. |
Based on everything said so far, this trade will be done on the 6th and Lakers will be short of max space.
It should have been part of the deal that this trade would be executed on July 30th. It wasn’t. |
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| 32 wrote: | | Happy Father's day. Anthony Davis! In 2.5 years we turned Mozgov and Deng into Lebron and AD! We now have between $23M and $33M in capspace plus $6M room exception. Very excited for this free agency. |
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| LKA wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Happy Father's day. Anthony Davis! In 2.5 years we turned Mozgov and Deng into Lebron and AD! We now have between $23M and $33M in capspace plus $6M room exception. Very excited for this free agency. |
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| LBJ23 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | mookielala wrote: | | Realistically, we aren't going to hear anything reliable until at least July 1, right? |
I guarantee Pelinka is smarter than people like to believe lol |
Name 1 move so far that shows this.
So far he has proven over and over again that he has no clue how to build a team. |
Just got a top 5 26 year old player. |
does that mean he not going to get injured because je 26..because he's proven otherwise.
Annd where was the genius in getting a guy you could clearly have gotten in 2020 straight up and not having to rearrange the july 6-30 arrangement? Seem like Griffin worked him like a donkey |
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(u) “Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent” means a Veteran Free
Agent who, prior to becoming a Veteran Free Agent, played under one (1)
or more Player Contracts covering some or all of each of the two (2)
preceding Seasons, and who either played exclusively with his Prior Team
during such two (2) Seasons, or, if he played for more than one (1) Team
during such period, changed Teams only (i) by means of trade, (ii) by
means of assignment via the NBA’s waiver procedures, or (iii) by signing
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(yy) “Qualifying Veteran Free Agent” means a Veteran Free Agent
who, prior to becoming a Veteran Free Agent, played under one (1) or
more Player Contracts covering some or all of each of the three (3)
preceding Seasons, and who either played exclusively with his Prior Team
during such three (3) Seasons, or, if he played for more than one (1) Team
during such period, changed Teams only (i) by means of trade, (ii) by
means of assignment via the NBA’s waiver procedures during the first of the three (3) Seasons, or (ii) by signing with his Prior Team during the first of the three (3) Seasons.
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| 32 wrote: | | Happy Father's day. Anthony Davis! In 2.5 years we turned Mozgov and Deng into Lebron and AD! We now have between $23M and $33M in capspace plus $6M room exception. Very excited for this free agency. |
Room exception is 6m? |
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Let’s use all our cap space on Randle and DLO, our original youngsters. Jk
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(b) Veteran Free Agent Exception. Subject to the rules set forth in
Section 6(m) below, beginning at 12:01 p.m. eastern time on the last day of
the Moratorium Period following the last Season covered by a Veteran
Free Agent’s Player Contract, such player may enter into a new Player
Contract with his Prior Team (or, in the case of a player selected in an
Expansion Draft that year, with the Team that selected such player in an
Expansion Draft) as follows:
(1) If the player is a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent, the new
Player Contract may provide for Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in
the first Salary Cap Year totaling up to the maximum amount
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(3) (i) If the player is an Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent, the
new Player Contract must cover at least two (2) Seasons
(not including a Season covered by an Option Year) and,
subject to Article II, Section 7, may provide in the first
Salary Cap Year up to the greater of: (A) one hundred
seventy-five percent (175%) of the Regular Salary for the
final Salary Cap Year covered by his prior Contract, plus
one hundred seventy-five percent (175%) of any Likely
Bonuses and Unlikely Bonuses, respectively, called for in
the final Salary Cap Year covered by the player’s prior
Contract, or (B) Salary plus Unlikely Bonuses totaling an
amount equal to one hundred five percent (105%) of the
Average Player Salary for the prior Salary Cap Year (or if
the Audit Report for the prior Salary Cap Year has not
been completed, one hundred five percent (105%) of the
Average Player Salary for the prior Salary Cap Year as
computed by substituting Estimated Total Salaries (as
defined in Section 1(i) above) for Total Salaries).
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| noahp45 wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | If they sign KL, they should sign Beverley as PG. |
Won’t have the $ probly |
Then bump KL, let's use the 32 mil to get some legit pieces.
4 players atleast! |
This is not just for you specifically but for everyone who’s worried about depth. Look at it this way, if we sign Kawhi or another max, that would give us three max players plus Kuzma. No coach in their right mind is going to have all those guys sitting at the same time. In all likelihood we will always have two of AD/LBJ/KL/Kuz running with three bench guys against the other team’s bench... game over. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | Username wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | mookielala wrote: | | Realistically, we aren't going to hear anything reliable until at least July 1, right? |
I guarantee Pelinka is smarter than people like to believe lol |
Name 1 move so far that shows this.
So far he has proven over and over again that he has no clue how to build a team. |
Just got a top 5 26 year old player. |
With that we gave up, you could have been the GM and gotten the same deal.
He couldn’t even get the timing right so we have room to sign a max. |
I must have missed free agency passing by without us signing a max player. |
Based on everything said so far, this trade will be done on the 6th and Lakers will be short of max space.
It should have been part of the deal that this trade would be executed on July 30th. It wasn’t. |
What you've read is speculation because the pick is a fluid piece that could still get moved. Tania said the Pelicans are fine with delaying the trade, but they're shopping the pick and it's difficult to put iron-clad language in asking a third team to trade for a pick and draft a player they won't be able to see in Summer League.
It's going to depend on who ends up with the pick, and who that team wants to draft. If the team with the 4 pick is drafting Garland, they may not expect him to play in SL anyway so delaying until July 30 would be no issue. Right now, there's nothing definite so it's pointless to whine about it until there's actually something worth whining about. |
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Go for depth
Bogdanovic
Beverly
Mclemore
Bullock
Vonleh
Burke
PG.Beverly / Burke
SG.Bogdanovic / Bullock
SF.Lebron / Mclemore
PF.Kuzma / Mo
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noahp45
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| Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | If they sign KL, they should sign Beverley as PG. |
Won’t have the $ probly |
Then bump KL, let's use the 32 mil to get some legit pieces.
4 players atleast! |
We might not have 32. We might have 24. All depends on when the trade goes through, and so far reports aren’t encouraging. |
Lakers walk away if no 32mil |
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If we are fortunate enough to land Kawhi or Kyrie in free agency then these are the guys that would seem to be the best options when it comes to our $4.5m exception and/or minimum contracts...
GUARDS: Alex Caruso, Ramon Rondo, Derrick Rose, Trey Burke, Iman Shumpert
WINGS: Reggie Bullock, Trevor Ariza, Wayne Ellington, Jeff Green, James Ennis, Darius Miller, Wes Matthews, Alec Burks
BIGS: JaVale McGee, Ed Davis, Nerlens Noel, Trey Lyles, Mike Scott
My guess is that Robin Lopez, Taj Gibson, Cory Joseph and Darren Collison will all receive deals north of what the Lakers can offer. Lopez and Gibson do strike me as guys that might be willing to take less in order to win... but I don’t see the Lakers offering their exception to a backup big, and I don’t see either of them taking the minimum.
Of those guys above, I’d be really happy if the Lakers could bring back McGee and Caruso, and add Matthews, Ariza and Shumpert. Also, I would highly expect the Lakers to buy a second round pick on Thursday.
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