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Iron Mamba
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Based on everything I've read/heard from Dave McMenamin:
Finalized Date:
Lakers were "quite aware" that timing of the trade date is important.
Trade has only been reported, not made official. An agreement can be made but not legally documented.
Lakers and Pelicans likely have some sort of agreement about the finalized date depending on circumstances of whether the Pelians keep the pick or whether the Lakers can land a top star.
Teams can always re-negotiate and amend the date by including extra sweeteners to the Pelicans or 3rd team that comes into the picture. Griffin has worked with amended agreement dates before when trading Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love.
Trade Kicker:
Rich Paul is representing the best interest of his client so he will put out that his client will not waive his trade kicker.
If Lakers can land a top star, they can go to Rich Paul and Anthony Davis and ask them if they are amicable to waiving the trade kicker. Cases in the past like Kyrie Irving waived his trade kicker to help the trade to get him to Boston.
Cap Space:
The Lakers have 2 ways of thinking:
- First one is to clear as much cap space as possible and get the full max.
- Second one is they do not need to get the full, full max since all the players they are targeting (Kawhi, Kyre, Kemba, Butler) do not have 10 years experience and they may be open to looking for a 2+1 deal and sacrificing about $4 million per year for the first 2 years then re-negotiating after they hit their 10 year tenure where they can make more.
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| Jon Lovitz wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t think Arye is a hack. I think he does have connections around the NBA.. |
I think he sees verified reports and copies them, and also the only connections he has is his own when stalking players leaving LA hotels. |
I just recall he was trying to claim he was at a hotel a couple years ago and someone was there meeting with the Lakers.....then others at the same time confirmed the player was not even in LA....and dude went silent for a long time. |
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epak
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| adkindo wrote: | | Jon Lovitz wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t think Arye is a hack. I think he does have connections around the NBA.. |
I think he sees verified reports and copies them, and also the only connections he has is his own when stalking players leaving LA hotels. |
I just recall he was trying to claim he was at a hotel a couple years ago and someone was there meeting with the Lakers.....then others at the same time confirmed the player was not even in LA....and dude went silent for a long time. |
Was it the Corey Brewer meeting with the rockets one? And no one was at the hotel? |
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818fan
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t think Arye is a hack. I think he does have connections around the NBA.. |
Of course you don't. You blindly listen to every single Twitter hack out there |
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dcastillo
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| adkindo wrote: | | Jon Lovitz wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t think Arye is a hack. I think he does have connections around the NBA.. |
I think he sees verified reports and copies them, and also the only connections he has is his own when stalking players leaving LA hotels. |
I just recall he was trying to claim he was at a hotel a couple years ago and someone was there meeting with the Lakers.....then others at the same time confirmed the player was not even in LA....and dude went silent for a long time. |
lamarcus aldridge I think |
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LakerSD
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| epak wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Jon Lovitz wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t think Arye is a hack. I think he does have connections around the NBA.. |
I think he sees verified reports and copies them, and also the only connections he has is his own when stalking players leaving LA hotels. |
I just recall he was trying to claim he was at a hotel a couple years ago and someone was there meeting with the Lakers.....then others at the same time confirmed the player was not even in LA....and dude went silent for a long time. |
Was it the Corey Brewer meeting with the rockets one? And no one was at the hotel? |
https://twitter.com/arye_abraham/status/1141055870958071808?s=21
Ayre going after Woj. |
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| 818fan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t think Arye is a hack. I think he does have connections around the NBA.. |
Of course you don't. You blindly listen to every single Twitter hack out there |
Lol |
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adkindo
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| epak wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Jon Lovitz wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t think Arye is a hack. I think he does have connections around the NBA.. |
I think he sees verified reports and copies them, and also the only connections he has is his own when stalking players leaving LA hotels. |
I just recall he was trying to claim he was at a hotel a couple years ago and someone was there meeting with the Lakers.....then others at the same time confirmed the player was not even in LA....and dude went silent for a long time. |
Was it the Corey Brewer meeting with the rockets one? And no one was at the hotel? |
I do not recall....but I think he had got one right earlier that year or a previous year....then when it was proved he was just making up stuff that he was claiming was literally taking place in front of him, he just went silent for a while. Then that is when his age and stuff was exposed....think he was 14 at the time? |
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Palin
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| Iron Mamba wrote: | Based on everything I've read/heard from Dave McMenamin:
Finalized Date:
Lakers were "quite aware" that timing of the trade date is important.
Trade has only been reported, not made official. An agreement can be made but not legally documented.
Lakers and Pelicans likely have some sort of agreement about the finalized date depending on circumstances of whether the Pelians keep the pick or whether the Lakers can land a top star.
Teams can always re-negotiate and amend the date by including extra sweeteners to the Pelicans or 3rd team that comes into the picture. Griffin has worked with amended agreement dates before when trading Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love.
Trade Kicker:
Rich Paul is representing the best interest of his client so he will put out that his client will not waive his trade kicker.
If Lakers can land a top star, they can go to Rich Paul and Anthony Davis and ask them if they are amicable to waiving the trade kicker. Cases in the past like Kyrie Irving waived his trade kicker to help the trade to get him to Boston.
Cap Space:
The Lakers have 2 ways of thinking:
- First one is to clear as much cap space as possible and get the full max.
- Second one is they do not need to get the full, full max since all the players they are targeting (Kawhi, Kyre, Kemba, Butler) do not have 10 years experience and they may be open to looking for a 2+1 deal and sacrificing about $4 million per year for the first 2 years then re-negotiating after they hit their 10 year tenure where they can make more. |
Dave is a Lebron guy so i guess Klutch will guide Lakers to do what so thank god its not just Pelinka. |
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| oh crap....I think epak is Arye?!?!? |
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styleripftw
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| Iron Mamba wrote: | Based on everything I've read/heard from Dave McMenamin:
Finalized Date:
Lakers were "quite aware" that timing of the trade date is important.
Trade has only been reported, not made official. An agreement can be made but not legally documented.
Lakers and Pelicans likely have some sort of agreement about the finalized date depending on circumstances of whether the Pelians keep the pick or whether the Lakers can land a top star.
Teams can always re-negotiate and amend the date by including extra sweeteners to the Pelicans or 3rd team that comes into the picture. Griffin has worked with amended agreement dates before when trading Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love.
Trade Kicker:
Rich Paul is representing the best interest of his client so he will put out that his client will not waive his trade kicker.
If Lakers can land a top star, they can go to Rich Paul and Anthony Davis and ask them if they are amicable to waiving the trade kicker. Cases in the past like Kyrie Irving waived his trade kicker to help the trade to get him to Boston.
Cap Space:
The Lakers have 2 ways of thinking:
- First one is to clear as much cap space as possible and get the full max.
- Second one is they do not need to get the full, full max since all the players they are targeting (Kawhi, Kyre, Kemba, Butler) do not have 10 years experience and they may be open to looking for a 2+1 deal and sacrificing about $4 million per year for the first 2 years then re-negotiating after they hit their 10 year tenure where they can make more. |
Awesome info, thanks! |
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The Juggernaut
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| adkindo wrote: | | oh crap....I think epak is Arye?!?!? |
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| I would take G.Hill over Beverly too. He can do a bit more with the ball. Might wana reunite w Vogel |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| Jon Lovitz wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t think Arye is a hack. I think he does have connections around the NBA.. |
I think he sees verified reports and copies them, and also the only connections he has is his own when stalking players leaving LA hotels. |
If you read some of the comments, Arye's getting called out by a lot of people for plagiarizing other people's report.
https://twitter.com/Esquate/status/1140783941579706368
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kawhi coming to LA lakers is 1:1500
can somebody help me where can i place a bet? i want to put 100$ on it |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | oh crap....I think epak is Arye?!?!? |
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investigation is underway and the early returns are in the affirmative
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | I would take G.Hill over Beverly too. He can do a bit more with the ball. Might wana reunite w Vogel |
Grant Hill is probably washed at this point  |
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The Juggernaut
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | I would take G.Hill over Beverly too. He can do a bit more with the ball. Might wana reunite w Vogel |
No way! Beverly is way better than current G Hill is. Pat Bev was running the Clippers offense in the playoffs and playing lockdown D while hitting over 40+% from 3. Hill has so many games where he just disappears on both ends especially with Bron and the Cavs last playoffs |
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epak
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | oh crap....I think epak is Arye?!?!? |
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investigation is underway and the early returns are in the affirmative |
Reported all 3 of u |
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PHILosophize
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| epak wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | oh crap....I think epak is Arye?!?!? |
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investigation is underway and the early returns are in the affirmative |
Reported all 3 of u |
there is no other way to receive this response than to add it to the available "in the affirmative" evidence folder
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | oh crap....I think epak is Arye?!?!? |
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investigation is underway and the early returns are in the affirmative |
Reported all 3 of u |
Lolz this is very Training Dayish of you.
“I’m putting cases on all you (bleep).” |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | kawhi coming to LA lakers is 1:1500
can somebody help me where can i place a bet? i want to put 100$ on it |
https://mobile.betonline.ag/
This place is the best. I have been using it for years.
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what is the maximum percentage increase on a players salary from one year to the next (for a player like kawhi or kyrie)?
For example, if they make 32.7 million next season, what percentage increase does that go up the following season? |
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| adkindo wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | I would take G.Hill over Beverly too. He can do a bit more with the ball. Might wana reunite w Vogel |
Grant Hill is probably washed at this point |
What about Glen Allen Hill |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| cital wrote: | what is the maximum percentage increase on a players salary from one year to the next (for a player like kawhi or kyrie)?
For example, if they make 32.7 million next season, what percentage increase does that go up the following season? |
I think it is 8% for their current team with Bird Rights....and 5% if they go to another team. |
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