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Lonzo-Lite
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| Iron Mamba wrote: | Based on everything I've read/heard from Dave McMenamin:
Finalized Date:
Lakers were "quite aware" that timing of the trade date is important.
Trade has only been reported, not made official. An agreement can be made but not legally documented.
Lakers and Pelicans likely have some sort of agreement about the finalized date depending on circumstances of whether the Pelians keep the pick or whether the Lakers can land a top star.
Teams can always re-negotiate and amend the date by including extra sweeteners to the Pelicans or 3rd team that comes into the picture. Griffin has worked with amended agreement dates before when trading Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love.
Trade Kicker:
Rich Paul is representing the best interest of his client so he will put out that his client will not waive his trade kicker.
If Lakers can land a top star, they can go to Rich Paul and Anthony Davis and ask them if they are amicable to waiving the trade kicker. Cases in the past like Kyrie Irving waived his trade kicker to help the trade to get him to Boston.
Cap Space:
The Lakers have 2 ways of thinking:
- First one is to clear as much cap space as possible and get the full max.
- Second one is they do not need to get the full, full max since all the players they are targeting (Kawhi, Kyre, Kemba, Butler) do not have 10 years experience and they may be open to looking for a 2+1 deal and sacrificing about $4 million per year for the first 2 years then re-negotiating after they hit their 10 year tenure where they can make more. |
When it comes to analysis, McMenamin >>>>>> Woj and not even close.
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Rek
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | I would take G.Hill over Beverly too. He can do a bit more with the ball. Might wana reunite w Vogel |
I'm greedy. I want both!  Seriously though, these are my favorite PGs that are realistic to acquire depending on how the FO uses their cap space. |
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Super Mega Team
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Quote: | Arye Abraham
@arye_abraham
I’m told that Kawhi Leonard will NOT consider the Knicks or Nets. The only teams Leonard will consider this summer: Raptors, Lakers, Clippers, sources say. |
OK, this is the make it or break it tweet for him. If he's wrong, I will never post his tweet again (unless as a joke). |
dude, nobody thought he was considering the Knicks or Nets. He gave you the two teams he is most closely tied to and the Lakers. My source told me that Kawhi will not be considering the Cleveland Cavs. |
mods pls verify his source |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| The Brow and the Bron wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | kawhi coming to LA lakers is 1:1500
can somebody help me where can i place a bet? i want to put 100$ on it |
https://mobile.betonline.ag/
This place is the best. I have been using it for years. |
thanks will do, once i go home |
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The Brow and the Bron
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | The Brow and the Bron wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | kawhi coming to LA lakers is 1:1500
can somebody help me where can i place a bet? i want to put 100$ on it |
https://mobile.betonline.ag/
This place is the best. I have been using it for years. |
thanks will do, once i go home |
No prob
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adkindo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | I would take G.Hill over Beverly too. He can do a bit more with the ball. Might wana reunite w Vogel |
Grant Hill is probably washed at this point  |
What about Glen Allen Hill |
the guy with arachnophobia? |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| The Brow and the Bron wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | kawhi coming to LA lakers is 1:1500
can somebody help me where can i place a bet? i want to put 100$ on it |
https://mobile.betonline.ag/
This place is the best. I have been using it for years. |
I mean he no longer has a house and lives in a van down by the river....but the Account Reps are very polite every time they take his money... |
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Heyvoon24
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Lonzo-Lite wrote: | | Iron Mamba wrote: | Based on everything I've read/heard from Dave McMenamin:
Finalized Date:
Lakers were "quite aware" that timing of the trade date is important.
Trade has only been reported, not made official. An agreement can be made but not legally documented.
Lakers and Pelicans likely have some sort of agreement about the finalized date depending on circumstances of whether the Pelians keep the pick or whether the Lakers can land a top star.
Teams can always re-negotiate and amend the date by including extra sweeteners to the Pelicans or 3rd team that comes into the picture. Griffin has worked with amended agreement dates before when trading Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love.
Trade Kicker:
Rich Paul is representing the best interest of his client so he will put out that his client will not waive his trade kicker.
If Lakers can land a top star, they can go to Rich Paul and Anthony Davis and ask them if they are amicable to waiving the trade kicker. Cases in the past like Kyrie Irving waived his trade kicker to help the trade to get him to Boston.
Cap Space:
The Lakers have 2 ways of thinking:
- First one is to clear as much cap space as possible and get the full max.
- Second one is they do not need to get the full, full max since all the players they are targeting (Kawhi, Kyre, Kemba, Butler) do not have 10 years experience and they may be open to looking for a 2+1 deal and sacrificing about $4 million per year for the first 2 years then re-negotiating after they hit their 10 year tenure where they can make more. |
When it comes to analysis, McMenamin >>>>>> Woj and not even close. |
Agree with your last point. |
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cital
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | cital wrote: | what is the maximum percentage increase on a players salary from one year to the next (for a player like kawhi or kyrie)?
For example, if they make 32.7 million next season, what percentage increase does that go up the following season? |
I think it is 8% for their current team with Bird Rights....and 5% if they go to another team. |
Ok, so if we have to make the Davis trade on the 6th, but Davis is willing to waive his trade kicker, and we trade Wagner/Bonga without any salary coming back... We would have 29.4 million in cap space and could give Kawhi or Kyrie a 2 year 60.27 million contract. At that point either one would be eligible for their 10 year vet extension. I think that might be enough to get it done. A team like the Clippers could offer 67 million over 2 years. |
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epak
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Intlakeshow wrote: | | epak wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | oh crap....I think epak is Arye?!?!? |
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investigation is underway and the early returns are in the affirmative |
Reported all 3 of u |
Lolz this is very Training Dayish of you.
“I’m putting cases on all you (bleep).” |
King Kong on a ladder couldnt reach that one!!!
Oh wait, wrong quote.
King Kong aint got nothing ... on.. me! |
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Nash Vegas
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Arye hasn’t been relevant since 2013.
He’s a has been.
Even in 2013 he never has inside sources unless they are waiters or parking attendants, he just stalks players and reports where they are and what they’re doing.
His sources are ESPN morning radio shows and scouring twitter and IG.
He is the twitter version of Peter Vecey, a has been.
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adkindo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | Arye hasn’t been relevant since 2013.
He’s a has been.
Even in 2013 he never uses sources, he just stalks players and reports where they are and what they’re doing.
His sources are ESPN morning radio shows and scouring twitter and IG.
He is the twitter version of Peter Vecey, a has been. |
take it easy...the guy has been here since 2005 and has almost 30K posts.... |
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kobedagoat
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Iron Mamba wrote: | Based on everything I've read/heard from Dave McMenamin:
Finalized Date:
Lakers were "quite aware" that timing of the trade date is important.
Trade has only been reported, not made official. An agreement can be made but not legally documented.
Lakers and Pelicans likely have some sort of agreement about the finalized date depending on circumstances of whether the Pelians keep the pick or whether the Lakers can land a top star.
Teams can always re-negotiate and amend the date by including extra sweeteners to the Pelicans or 3rd team that comes into the picture. Griffin has worked with amended agreement dates before when trading Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love.
Trade Kicker:
Rich Paul is representing the best interest of his client so he will put out that his client will not waive his trade kicker.
If Lakers can land a top star, they can go to Rich Paul and Anthony Davis and ask them if they are amicable to waiving the trade kicker. Cases in the past like Kyrie Irving waived his trade kicker to help the trade to get him to Boston.
Cap Space:
The Lakers have 2 ways of thinking:
- First one is to clear as much cap space as possible and get the full max.
- Second one is they do not need to get the full, full max since all the players they are targeting (Kawhi, Kyre, Kemba, Butler) do not have 10 years experience and they may be open to looking for a 2+1 deal and sacrificing about $4 million per year for the first 2 years then re-negotiating after they hit their 10 year tenure where they can make more. |
x1000.
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King Randle
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | Arye hasn’t been relevant since 2013.
He’s a has been.
Even in 2013 he never has inside sources unless they are waiters or parking attendants, he just stalks players and reports where they are and what they’re doing.
His sources are ESPN morning radio shows and scouring twitter and IG.
He is the twitter version of Peter Vecey, a has been. |
On his twitter profile he says he's featured on 710 ESPN Radio. Do they bring him on as a guest? If so they have some credibility issues. |
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Maginka
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| King Randle wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | Arye hasn’t been relevant since 2013.
He’s a has been.
Even in 2013 he never has inside sources unless they are waiters or parking attendants, he just stalks players and reports where they are and what they’re doing.
His sources are ESPN morning radio shows and scouring twitter and IG.
He is the twitter version of Peter Vecey, a has been. |
On his twitter profile he says he's featured on 710 ESPN Radio. Do they bring him on as a guest? If so they have some credibility issues. |
He told his stalker story one time, gotta build up your credibility sometimes |
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iimarshon
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:24 am Post subject: |
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If we have 24m..
• 12m - Danny Green
• 8m - Marcus Morris
• 4m - Reggie Bullock (cap hold)
Room Exception:
• George Hill
Vet Mins:
• Trevor Ariza
• Markieff Morris
• Tyson Chandler
HILL / Caruso
GREEN / Bullock
JAMES / Ariza
KUZMA / Morris
AD / Morris
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Nash Vegas
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| King Randle wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | Arye hasn’t been relevant since 2013.
He’s a has been.
Even in 2013 he never has inside sources unless they are waiters or parking attendants, he just stalks players and reports where they are and what they’re doing.
His sources are ESPN morning radio shows and scouring twitter and IG.
He is the twitter version of Peter Vecey, a has been. |
On his twitter profile he says he's featured on 710 ESPN Radio. Do they bring him on as a guest? If so they have some credibility issues. |
Yeah he was interviewed in 2013 from stalking Dwight’s hotel and restaurant meetings.
He hasn’t been on 710 ESPN since 2013
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| If someone would draft Cam Reddish @ #4....that would help. Is Garland going full contact yet? |
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tj24
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:25 am Post subject: |
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what do you guys think about jabari parker as the 6th man? thought he played pretty well last year after getting traded to washington
lakers probably have interest since they tried to trade kcp for him at the deadline. unless that was all magic. |
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King Randle
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | Arye hasn’t been relevant since 2013.
He’s a has been.
Even in 2013 he never uses sources, he just stalks players and reports where they are and what they’re doing.
His sources are ESPN morning radio shows and scouring twitter and IG.
He is the twitter version of Peter Vecey, a has been. |
take it easy...the guy has been here since 2005 and has almost 30K posts.... |
Are you serious? Haha... |
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levon
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| Iron Mamba wrote: | Based on everything I've read/heard from Dave McMenamin:
Finalized Date:
Lakers were "quite aware" that timing of the trade date is important.
Trade has only been reported, not made official. An agreement can be made but not legally documented.
Lakers and Pelicans likely have some sort of agreement about the finalized date depending on circumstances of whether the Pelians keep the pick or whether the Lakers can land a top star.
Teams can always re-negotiate and amend the date by including extra sweeteners to the Pelicans or 3rd team that comes into the picture. Griffin has worked with amended agreement dates before when trading Andrew Wiggins for Kevin Love.
Trade Kicker:
Rich Paul is representing the best interest of his client so he will put out that his client will not waive his trade kicker.
If Lakers can land a top star, they can go to Rich Paul and Anthony Davis and ask them if they are amicable to waiving the trade kicker. Cases in the past like Kyrie Irving waived his trade kicker to help the trade to get him to Boston.
Cap Space:
The Lakers have 2 ways of thinking:
- First one is to clear as much cap space as possible and get the full max.
- Second one is they do not need to get the full, full max since all the players they are targeting (Kawhi, Kyre, Kemba, Butler) do not have 10 years experience and they may be open to looking for a 2+1 deal and sacrificing about $4 million per year for the first 2 years then re-negotiating after they hit their 10 year tenure where they can make more. |
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epak
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | Arye hasn’t been relevant since 2013.
He’s a has been.
Even in 2013 he never uses sources, he just stalks players and reports where they are and what they’re doing.
His sources are ESPN morning radio shows and scouring twitter and IG.
He is the twitter version of Peter Vecey, a has been. |
take it easy...the guy has been here since 2005 and has almost 30K posts.... |
How should I respond to this rudeness? |
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| tj24 wrote: | what do you guys think about jabari parker as the 6th man? thought he played pretty well last year after getting traded to washington
lakers probably have interest since they tried to trade kcp for him at the deadline. unless that was all magic. |
No defense no thanks. Gotta think how a player you give real money to will look in the late rounds. I’d guess he wants around 8M or more |
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King Randle
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| iimarshon wrote: | If we have 24m..
• 12m - Danny Green
• 8m - Marcus Morris
• 4m - Reggie Bullock (cap hold)
Room Exception:
• George Hill
Vet Mins:
• Trevor Ariza
• Markieff Morris
• Tyson Chandler
HILL / Caruso
GREEN / Bullock
JAMES / Ariza
KUZMA / Morris
AD / Morris |
Replace Green with Ross or KCP and save yourself some money and get another asset. |
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