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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | If you’re calling for Beal, you don’t truly understand the machinations of the cap and what the implications would be in trading for him.
The implications of trading for Beal have been mentioned ad nauseam, but people continue to conveniently ignore the wisdom of a handful of diligent, sage posters.
Beal isn’t a viable option folks. Any trade proposal involving Beal might as well include Durant or Leonard being sent out as well. |
Yup. You empty out the clip if you trade for Beal.
I gather that like LBJ, Lakers have some intel on KD/KL and will wait for him.
Only Kemba makes sense cap-structure wise but I doubt MJ moves him now. |
Yeah, you guys are right.
If we had any confidence at all in any of our young players to become that 2nd or 3rd reliable option on a championship team, maybe a different story. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | If you’re calling for Beal, you don’t truly understand the machinations of the cap and what the implications would be in trading for him.
The implications of trading for Beal have been mentioned ad nauseam, but people continue to conveniently ignore the wisdom of a handful of diligent, sage posters.
Beal isn’t a viable option folks. Any trade proposal involving Beal might as well include Durant or Leonard being sent out as well. |
Yup. You empty out the clip if you trade for Beal.
I gather that like LBJ, Lakers have some intel on KD/KL and will wait for him.
Only Kemba makes sense cap-structure wise but I doubt MJ moves him now. |
shams came out with a video today that says MJ has no interest in trading Kemba and wants to build around him
ya so lets scratch that idea |
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LKA
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Could this Warriors team be heading to the same course as the last Kobe/Shaq team?
Guys sort of playing out the year and then losing in the Finals to a team that is more cohesive?
I know on paper, the Warriors talent runs laps around other teams. But funny things can happen by the end.
I'm hoping that if KD wants to leave, that he take a 1 hour flight down South to the Lakers.  |
I would bet against that happening |
04 Lakers were old GSW doesnt have that problem, their best 5 are all in their prime
Plus their locker room issues is no where near as bad as the 04 team was |
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Joe Pesci
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | If you’re calling for Beal, you don’t truly understand the machinations of the cap and what the implications would be in trading for him.
The implications of trading for Beal have been mentioned ad nauseam, but people continue to conveniently ignore the wisdom of a handful of diligent, sage posters.
Beal isn’t a viable option folks. Any trade proposal involving Beal might as well include Durant or Leonard being sent out as well. |
the sage posters who want to trade Lonzo + BI + picks to get Kemba. who MJ has no interest in trading?
ok |
I wasn’t speaking of myself. This is my first time speaking about Beal. I don’t write and speak cryptically, dude, if I was referring to myself, I would have simply said as much.
For the record, I ain’t wise or diligent at all. I’m a degenerate like yourself.
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LakerMindLA
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Gosh. I want me some Bradley Beal but he is pricey. I'm assuming there is no way we could take on his contract and still have room leftover for a summer FA? |
If we didn’t have Dengs 5m on the books we could have had Beal and room for a max. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | If you’re calling for Beal, you don’t truly understand the machinations of the cap and what the implications would be in trading for him.
The implications of trading for Beal have been mentioned ad nauseam, but people continue to conveniently ignore the wisdom of a handful of diligent, sage posters.
Beal isn’t a viable option folks. Any trade proposal involving Beal might as well include Durant or Leonard being sent out as well. |
the sage posters who want to trade Lonzo + BI + picks to get Kemba. who MJ has no interest in trading?
ok |
I wasn’t speaking of myself. This is my first time speaking about Beal. I don’t write and speak cryptically, dude, if I was referring to myself, I would have simply said as much.
For the record, I ain’t wise or diligent at all. I’m a degenerate like yourself. |
ok thanks.
i am fully aware of the cap ramifications if we go after Beal and i even suggested we trade beal later to make space for KD.
if our end goal is Bron + KD + AD then trading Ingram + Beal is a lot more attractive then BI + Lonzo. |
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Oubre is the only one I would be interested in
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Jesusdelonla
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shams on Kemba future:
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Our NBA Insider @ShamsCharania reports on 60-point man Kemba Walker and where his future stands in Charlotte. pic.twitter.com/4Rona232TO
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Jesusdelonla
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| venturalakersfan wrote: |
Oubre is the only one I would be interested in |
yes |
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ringfinger
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Oubre is the only one I would be interested in |
yes |
I like him too, although, not sure why they would want to move him. He's only 22. |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | If you’re calling for Beal, you don’t truly understand the machinations of the cap and what the implications would be in trading for him.
The implications of trading for Beal have been mentioned ad nauseam, but people continue to conveniently ignore the wisdom of a handful of diligent, sage posters.
Beal isn’t a viable option folks. Any trade proposal involving Beal might as well include Durant or Leonard being sent out as well. |
the sage posters who want to trade Lonzo + BI + picks to get Kemba. who MJ has no interest in trading?
ok |
I wasn’t speaking of myself. This is my first time speaking about Beal. I don’t write and speak cryptically, dude, if I was referring to myself, I would have simply said as much.
For the record, I ain’t wise or diligent at all. I’m a degenerate like yourself. |
ok thanks.
i am fully aware of the cap ramifications if we go after Beal and i even suggested we trade beal later to make space for KD.
if our end goal is Bron + KD + AD then trading Ingram + Beal is a lot more attractive then BI + Lonzo. |
You think Washington bites on Ball and filler for Beal?
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Could this Warriors team be heading to the same course as the last Kobe/Shaq team?
Guys sort of playing out the year and then losing in the Finals to a team that is more cohesive?
I know on paper, the Warriors talent runs laps around other teams. But funny things can happen by the end.
I'm hoping that if KD wants to leave, that he take a 1 hour flight down South to the Lakers. |
I would bet against that happening |
Many were betting against LBJ/Lakers this time last year (and many of us thought PG13 was coming).
July is an eternity.
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Jesusdelonla
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | If you’re calling for Beal, you don’t truly understand the machinations of the cap and what the implications would be in trading for him.
The implications of trading for Beal have been mentioned ad nauseam, but people continue to conveniently ignore the wisdom of a handful of diligent, sage posters.
Beal isn’t a viable option folks. Any trade proposal involving Beal might as well include Durant or Leonard being sent out as well. |
the sage posters who want to trade Lonzo + BI + picks to get Kemba. who MJ has no interest in trading?
ok |
I wasn’t speaking of myself. This is my first time speaking about Beal. I don’t write and speak cryptically, dude, if I was referring to myself, I would have simply said as much.
For the record, I ain’t wise or diligent at all. I’m a degenerate like yourself. |
ok thanks.
i am fully aware of the cap ramifications if we go after Beal and i even suggested we trade beal later to make space for KD.
if our end goal is Bron + KD + AD then trading Ingram + Beal is a lot more attractive then BI + Lonzo. |
You think Washington bites on Ball and filler for Beal? |
nope but we could try |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | If you’re calling for Beal, you don’t truly understand the machinations of the cap and what the implications would be in trading for him.
The implications of trading for Beal have been mentioned ad nauseam, but people continue to conveniently ignore the wisdom of a handful of diligent, sage posters.
Beal isn’t a viable option folks. Any trade proposal involving Beal might as well include Durant or Leonard being sent out as well. |
Yup. You empty out the clip if you trade for Beal.
I gather that like LBJ, Lakers have some intel on KD/KL and will wait for him.
Only Kemba makes sense cap-structure wise but I doubt MJ moves him now. |
shams came out with a video today that says MJ has no interest in trading Kemba and wants to build around him
ya so lets scratch that idea |
I'm not saying we would/should do it, but from a cap structure point of view, he's literally the only all star with a low enough cap hold for 2019.
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If anything, Oubre Jr. is consistent. Fits our length as well. Decent shooter. Still on a rook contract, no?
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I think our hesitation to move on guys like Beal, says a lot more about our young core than anything else.
If we swapped out BI (3rd season) and Lonzo (2nd season) for Embiid (3rd season) and Simmons (2nd season), giving us a core of:
Lebron/Simmons/Embiid
I think we'd be more than willing to move pieces to bring Beal in.
But the fact that it looks like we have a bunch of role players instead, definitely makes that decision that much more difficult. |
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| Quote: | | if our end goal is Bron + KD + AD then trading Ingram + Beal is a lot more attractive then BI + Lonzo. |
But how do you get KD with Beal? You'd have to trade him for 0 coming back basically.
So you can't package Beal for AD b/c he would have be to trade for cap space to get KD.
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Oubre is the only one I would be interested in |
yes |
I like him too, although, not sure why they would want to move him. He's only 22. |
If I were them I wouldn’t want to move him
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| €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | If anything, Oubre Jr. is consistent. Fits our length as well. Decent shooter. Still on a rook contract, no? |
Bad shooter |
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The only one who makes sense,salary wise,is Kemba
And i don't think that he's unattainable,because the guy wants to get paid,and he's deserving the max for the way he's been ballin',and i'll believe MJ paying that money when i'll see it
The risk of losing him for nothing in FA is uberhigh for the Hornets
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Mystified by people who are trying to trade Brandon Ingram but want to acquire Kelly Oubre... Am I missing something here?
He's worse than Ingram at everything except shooting free throws.
The only thing I've got is that he's cheap. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| LKA wrote: | | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | If anything, Oubre Jr. is consistent. Fits our length as well. Decent shooter. Still on a rook contract, no? |
Bad shooter |
28% |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Not getting none of those Wiz players.
Lakers looking at KD,KL and Klay like a English bulldog looks at cake. |
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Adkindo hasn’t mentioned Trading for Dwight yet   |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | If anything, Oubre Jr. is consistent. Fits our length as well. Decent shooter. Still on a rook contract, no? |
Bad shooter |
28% |
Get what you pay for? Lord... this clearance sale sucks.
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