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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:57 pm    Post subject:

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Really think Chris Paul buys out of OKC. He wants a big market. And he wants to win now.

If he and Rondo can bury the hatchet, I could see him coming here.


That would be unprecedented. A 100m+ buyout.

I think he gets traded to a team like Miami where they can send expiring deals there and maybe OKC actually sends a pick to Miami as a salary dump price.


Pat Riley didn't want to pay DWade. Don't see why he'd want to pay Paul. Buyout seems like the most likely scenario. Even if it isn't ideal.


A 100m+ buyout? If I'm an owner I'm firing you for that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:57 pm    Post subject:

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Really think Chris Paul buys out of OKC. He wants a big market. And he wants to win now.

If he and Rondo can bury the hatchet, I could see him coming here.


That would be unprecedented. A 100m+ buyout.

I think he gets traded to a team like Miami where they can send expiring deals there and maybe OKC actually sends a pick to Miami as a salary dump price.


Pat Riley didn't want to pay DWade. Don't see why he'd want to pay Paul. Buyout seems like the most likely scenario. Even if it isn't ideal.


I'm not ruling anything out--how can you with how this year's summer is playing out--but I think it would be an extraordinarily bad look if the president of the NBAPA takes a massive buyout.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:59 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Really think Chris Paul buys out of OKC. He wants a big market. And he wants to win now.

If he and Rondo can bury the hatchet, I could see him coming here.


That would be unprecedented. A 100m+ buyout.

I think he gets traded to a team like Miami where they can send expiring deals there and maybe OKC actually sends a pick to Miami as a salary dump price.


Pat Riley didn't want to pay DWade. Don't see why he'd want to pay Paul. Buyout seems like the most likely scenario. Even if it isn't ideal.


That would be a massive, unprecedented buy-out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:59 pm    Post subject:

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If you asked NBA players to rank the cities where they and their families would like to live, Houston and OKC would be in the bottom half.



Houston is the 4th largest Media Market in the USA and has zero State income tax. I doubt it is in the bottom half of NBA player preferred destinations.


I think AH is from or lives in Texas. I'll take his word on whether it's a pleasant place to live.


I chose Louisiana over Houston


That explains a lot.


I would too, New Orleans is cool.


One of the worst markets in the league. If not the worst.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:01 pm    Post subject:

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Really think Chris Paul buys out of OKC. He wants a big market. And he wants to win now.

If he and Rondo can bury the hatchet, I could see him coming here.


That would be unprecedented. A 100m+ buyout.

I think he gets traded to a team like Miami where they can send expiring deals there and maybe OKC actually sends a pick to Miami as a salary dump price.


Pat Riley didn't want to pay DWade. Don't see why he'd want to pay Paul. Buyout seems like the most likely scenario. Even if it isn't ideal.


That would be a massive, unprecedented buy-out.


They have so many draft picks that a team would take CP3 and a pick or two to take him on, with OKC getting at worst expiring deals back. But to walk up to your ownership group and say that we're paying someone 100m+ to NOT play for us, that's a hard pitch to make.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:03 pm    Post subject:

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kikanga wrote:
Really think Chris Paul buys out of OKC. He wants a big market. And he wants to win now.

If he and Rondo can bury the hatchet, I could see him coming here.


That would be unprecedented. A 100m+ buyout.

I think he gets traded to a team like Miami where they can send expiring deals there and maybe OKC actually sends a pick to Miami as a salary dump price.


Pat Riley didn't want to pay DWade. Don't see why he'd want to pay Paul. Buyout seems like the most likely scenario. Even if it isn't ideal.


Has OKC ever bought people out?

They traded Melo to ATL and the Hawks bought out that 27.9M.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:04 pm    Post subject:

Tyson Chandler to Rockets. Unfortunate, would have loved to see him back.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27176547/tyson-chandler-rockets-agree-one-year-deal
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:04 pm    Post subject:

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Roon wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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Aeneas Hunter wrote:
If you asked NBA players to rank the cities where they and their families would like to live, Houston and OKC would be in the bottom half.



Houston is the 4th largest Media Market in the USA and has zero State income tax. I doubt it is in the bottom half of NBA player preferred destinations.


I think AH is from or lives in Texas. I'll take his word on whether it's a pleasant place to live.


I chose Louisiana over Houston


That explains a lot.


I would too, New Orleans is cool.


One of the worst markets in the league. If not the worst.


You clearly have not been to Cleveland, Orlando, Detroit or Milwaukee.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:05 pm    Post subject:

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Tyson Chandler to Rockets. Unfortunate, would have loved to see him back.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27176547/tyson-chandler-rockets-agree-one-year-deal


Why he was awful ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:05 pm    Post subject:

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Tyson Chandler to Rockets. Unfortunate, would have loved to see him back.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27176547/tyson-chandler-rockets-agree-one-year-deal


I rather have Vince Carter then Chandler
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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Tyson Chandler to Rockets. Unfortunate, would have loved to see him back.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27176547/tyson-chandler-rockets-agree-one-year-deal


good luck to Tyson.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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Shoot Like Kobe wrote:
Roon wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
If you asked NBA players to rank the cities where they and their families would like to live, Houston and OKC would be in the bottom half.



Houston is the 4th largest Media Market in the USA and has zero State income tax. I doubt it is in the bottom half of NBA player preferred destinations.


I think AH is from or lives in Texas. I'll take his word on whether it's a pleasant place to live.


I chose Louisiana over Houston


That explains a lot.


I would too, New Orleans is cool.


One of the worst markets in the league. If not the worst.


You clearly have not been to Cleveland, Orlando, Detroit or Milwaukee.


Do your research.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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CandyCanes wrote:
Tyson Chandler to Rockets. Unfortunate, would have loved to see him back.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27176547/tyson-chandler-rockets-agree-one-year-deal


Why he was awful ?


I liked the Tyson pick up for the first few games and then disappeared and was injured for much of the season. No big loss.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:09 pm    Post subject:

Shoot Like Kobe wrote:
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Shoot Like Kobe wrote:
Roon wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
If you asked NBA players to rank the cities where they and their families would like to live, Houston and OKC would be in the bottom half.



Houston is the 4th largest Media Market in the USA and has zero State income tax. I doubt it is in the bottom half of NBA player preferred destinations.


I think AH is from or lives in Texas. I'll take his word on whether it's a pleasant place to live.


I chose Louisiana over Houston


That explains a lot.


I would too, New Orleans is cool.


One of the worst markets in the league. If not the worst.


You clearly have not been to Cleveland, Orlando, Detroit or Milwaukee.


Do your research.


Yeah, Milwaukee has a new arena and a revitalized downtown area.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:10 pm    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
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CandyCanes wrote:
Tyson Chandler to Rockets. Unfortunate, would have loved to see him back.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27176547/tyson-chandler-rockets-agree-one-year-deal


Why he was awful ?


I liked the Tyson pick up for the first few games and then disappeared and was injured for much of the season. No big loss.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:11 pm    Post subject:

I still dont get why Chris Paul and his contract is seen as so much worse than Westbrook...
CP3 - 3 years 124mil
Westbrook - 4 years 171mil
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:12 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
Shoot Like Kobe wrote:
Chick's Magic Johnson wrote:
Shoot Like Kobe wrote:
Roon wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
If you asked NBA players to rank the cities where they and their families would like to live, Houston and OKC would be in the bottom half.



Houston is the 4th largest Media Market in the USA and has zero State income tax. I doubt it is in the bottom half of NBA player preferred destinations.


I think AH is from or lives in Texas. I'll take his word on whether it's a pleasant place to live.


I chose Louisiana over Houston


That explains a lot.


I would too, New Orleans is cool.


One of the worst markets in the league. If not the worst.


You clearly have not been to Cleveland, Orlando, Detroit or Milwaukee.


Do your research.


Yeah, Milwaukee has a new arena and a revitalized downtown area.


I would go for NOLA over Milwaukee (as a city, place to live) any day of the week.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:14 pm    Post subject:

The only way CP3 gets a buy-out is if he gives up $90m, which is not going happen.

There is no reason to buy-out CP3. Let him sit on the bench and pout all he wants. At some-point his contract will become an asset.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:22 pm    Post subject:

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2018-2019
.428 FG% (20.2 attempts per game)
.290 3PT% (5.6 attempts per game)
4.5 TO

For someone who gets a good amount of dunks, layups, and is so aggressive to the rim, that is putrid.


MDA made Kendall Marshall look good. WB is gonna be scary with all that HOU floor spacing and 7 seconds or less.


Except they didn’t really play that AT ALL this year. Tons of burn the clock while Harden or whoever had the ball dribbled it out and tried to attack or shoot a pull up three. Their offense was trash. It got buckets was probably the most predictable I’ve seen in years.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:22 pm    Post subject:

Chandler played well the time he played.
In fact he helped turn the season around before the injuries.
Then father time caught up.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:24 pm    Post subject:

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Does Harden become a spot up jumpshooter or does Westbrook? I mean, talk about two players that absolutely need the ball in their hands.



I dont get Harden man.

He's 41.4% on c&s 3s. But he only takes them at a freq of 3.7%. How moronic. Guess what his freq on pull up 3s are.... 49.4% on 36.3% 3fg%.

And do you know what his wide open 3s are at? 46.1%!!!!

One would assume Harden should spot up more.
But something tells me he will NOT. What a moron.


The only other playmaker on the team was CP3, who missed 24 games each of the last two seasons. And when he plays the coach staggers their minutes to always have a playmaker on the court at all times. His iso scoring numbers in the regular season are amongst the most efficient in basketball, so that's why he has the ball so much.


This is like drinking salt water and trying to pass it off as 7UP.

The fit should be interesting. Let's see how long Harden agrees to play "off ball."


For as long as there is someone else to adequately playmake. His usage didn’t skyrocket until Mike D came and implemented a system where one guy dominates the ball. And it was further enhanced with CP3 missing nearly 1/3 of the prior two seasons.

He will come off the ball for Westbrook like he did the last time they played together. He would come off it if the coach had a different system in place, just like he did before Mike D was hired.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:25 pm    Post subject:

I don't see CP3 giving up all that money, I don't see the Thunder giving such a large buyout either. My guess is he will get traded from team to team until his contract is done.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:27 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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Really think Chris Paul buys out of OKC. He wants a big market. And he wants to win now.

If he and Rondo can bury the hatchet, I could see him coming here.


That would be unprecedented. A 100m+ buyout.

I think he gets traded to a team like Miami where they can send expiring deals there and maybe OKC actually sends a pick to Miami as a salary dump price.


Pat Riley didn't want to pay DWade. Don't see why he'd want to pay Paul. Buyout seems like the most likely scenario. Even if it isn't ideal.


A 100m+ buyout? If I'm an owner I'm firing you for that.


Rather just keep him on the books for the full amount if he refuses to play?
(Assuming nobody is willing to trade for him).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:27 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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Really think Chris Paul buys out of OKC. He wants a big market. And he wants to win now.

If he and Rondo can bury the hatchet, I could see him coming here.


That would be unprecedented. A 100m+ buyout.

I think he gets traded to a team like Miami where they can send expiring deals there and maybe OKC actually sends a pick to Miami as a salary dump price.


Pat Riley didn't want to pay DWade. Don't see why he'd want to pay Paul. Buyout seems like the most likely scenario. Even if it isn't ideal.


A 100m+ buyout? If I'm an owner I'm firing you for that.


Rather just keep him on the books for the full amount if he refuses to play?
(Assuming nobody is willing to trade for him).


No. There will be someone who would take him if you added a pick or two and they have 203,321 first rounders now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:28 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Really think Chris Paul buys out of OKC. He wants a big market. And he wants to win now.

If he and Rondo can bury the hatchet, I could see him coming here.


That would be unprecedented. A 100m+ buyout.

I think he gets traded to a team like Miami where they can send expiring deals there and maybe OKC actually sends a pick to Miami as a salary dump price.


Pat Riley didn't want to pay DWade. Don't see why he'd want to pay Paul. Buyout seems like the most likely scenario. Even if it isn't ideal.


A 100m+ buyout? If I'm an owner I'm firing you for that.


Rather just keep him on the books for the full amount if he refuses to play?
(Assuming nobody is willing to trade for him).


Guarnteed contract CP3 has no reason to give up a penny of that money nor should he if they want him to sit and pay $120 mil then he will sit
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