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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | numero-ocho wrote: |
SBNation is reporting it's a training camp deal so it looks like we still have our final regular season roster spot and one two-way contract available. |
I prefer to go into training camp with an open roster spot....gives guys like this something to play for....even if the odds are low, it is possible. |
Also korver was so bad he couldn't get minutes in playoffs when Utah needed shooting |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Robster8989 wrote: | Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: | laker50 wrote: | There doesn't seem to be any defensive SFs left worth signing.
Is Luc healthy? If he is it may be worth a gamble.
Otherwise, would just wait until training camp to see what the needs are.
Leave that spot to fill the need. |
Thabo Sefolosha. |
Good call.
Thabo can play D and shoot the 3.
I wonder if we could bring him in on a 2 way?
Or sign to vet min and release someone if Iggy becomes available? |
he is not eligible for a 2 way....only thing we have to offer is the Vet. Minimum. I assume you could always make it non guaranteed, but not sure why he would agree to that. Can always eat a guaranteed minimum contract to open up space. I am suspicious of Thabo at this point....why is an established contributor not signed? Maybe he would not pass physical? |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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anth2000 wrote: | Robster8989 wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | ocho wrote: | Quote: | Free agent Kyle Korver has agreed to a one-year deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, agent Jeff Schwartz of @excelsm tells ESPN. |
All in for Iggy it seems... |
Typical |
Like ur garbage posts everyday
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No disrespect Jim, but I actually think he has a point on this.
Korver was obtainable, and we really need a back up SF/wing shooter.
While I would of course rather have Iggy, he is beyond our control at this point, and may very well remain so.
And if Iggy does become available, we can always release a player to make the room.
I'd prefer someone who can defend better than Korver, but dude is a 40%+ career 3 pt shooter, and by all accounts a great teammate.
He would have been a great pick up, especially at a vet min.
A bit reminiscent of the "Kawhi or bust" attitude, that kept us from building the best possible team. While I do think we recovered well from the Kawhi fiasco, it was still a bit of a fiasco, in that it kept us from building the best possible team we could have. Also, signing players like Dudley, and the Cook/Daniels issue, made roster space tighter than it needed to be.
I would have signed Korver, and if Iggy became available, figured it out.
Now he is an asset on another title contender. |
I have to agree. Korver is pretty old and Iggy is a better option on defense. We have some shooters now so a guy like Korver is not a must have. Iggy, on the other hand, if he can be had, is the icing on the cake for this off season.
Still, as I stated previously, the Lakers roster Plan B looks to be more solid than Plan A with throwing all the money at one player with hopes of guys just taking the vet min. I know some folks here even argue that most of these guys that we got could have come for cheaper, but that's just making up crap. You don't know that, you are just assuming. Lakers have done a great offseason. Bravo!! |
Korver plays absolutely no defense |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | ocho wrote: | Quote: | Free agent Kyle Korver has agreed to a one-year deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, agent Jeff Schwartz of @excelsm tells ESPN. |
All in for Iggy it seems... |
Typical |
This isn’t close to being “typical.”
The smartest thing for the Lakers is to keep the roster spot open, Iggy or no Iggy. There is zero reason to sign Korver, JR Smith, Melo or anyone else currently available.
If it was any other team, you would be praising them for the flexibility of an open roster spot, but since it’s the Lakers.... |
Typical that if true, they are basing their plan on someone they can’t have. Keeping a spot open is fine. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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PRLakeShow Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Pureshot77 wrote: | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | Pureshot77 wrote: | Super Mega Team wrote: | JUST-MING wrote: | Super Mega Team wrote: | We can hope we do better than the Clippers and one viewpoint is since the Lakers and Raptors were in the mix, it forced the Clippers to “give up an incredible haul” of draft picks to OKC. |
Media spin. Clippers were clearly tampering. Sue Nike for Kawhi’s Logo? Not tampering at all lol. Clippers hands were “forced” to trade for an all-nba first team, all-defense first team, and top 3 mvp candidate. What a crock of... |
Are you sure he was too 3 mvp? |
PG was a MVP finalist. That's as definitive as it gets for top 3. |
Oh, you can get more definitive. George was the consensus third place choice.
https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/46/2019/06/2018-19-NBA-Most-Valuable-Player-Award-Voting-Totals.pdf |
There's a difference between top 3 and 3rd place, but thanks for the info. |
What? Math isn’t your friend. |
Was math taught differently when you grew up? This is not even math.
Top 3: Anywhere between 1st and 3rd. So 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.
3rd place: ... Literally it says it right there, just 3rd. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
It makes no sense for Cleveland to buyout Clarkson. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
I think he has more value than most of the other options. Considering, he's coming off the bench and playing a limited role. |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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SocalDevin wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
I think he has more value than most of the other options. Considering, he's coming off the bench and playing a limited role. |
Between Green and KCP there just won't be any minutes for JC at the 2.
We already have Bradley, Rondo, Cook and Daniels for the PG spot.
There's no need for JC at all. If he had developed into a combo guard, like we thought he could after his rookie year, maybe he'd be an option. He's also very ugly to look at now with all the neck tattoos. Hard pass. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Ziggy wrote: | SocalDevin wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
I think he has more value than most of the other options. Considering, he's coming off the bench and playing a limited role. |
Between Green and KCP there just won't be any minutes for JC at the 2.
We already have Bradley, Rondo, Cook and Daniels for the PG spot.
There's no need for JC at all. If he had developed into a combo guard, like we thought he could after his rookie year, maybe he'd be an option. He's also very ugly to look at now with all the neck tattoos. Hard pass. |
For all the reasons you highlighted I personally wouldn't consider him. I too, believed he was going to end up being a combo guard after he did pretty okay playing point. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | ocho wrote: | Quote: | Free agent Kyle Korver has agreed to a one-year deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, agent Jeff Schwartz of @excelsm tells ESPN. |
All in for Iggy it seems... |
Typical |
This isn’t close to being “typical.”
The smartest thing for the Lakers is to keep the roster spot open, Iggy or no Iggy. There is zero reason to sign Korver, JR Smith, Melo or anyone else currently available.
If it was any other team, you would be praising them for the flexibility of an open roster spot, but since it’s the Lakers.... |
Typical that if true, they are basing their plan on someone they can’t have. Keeping a spot open is fine. |
You simply don't know that. _________________ KOBE |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
I like Clarkson but want to keep the spot for Iggy. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
Is that reported anywhere IG...or an assumption? |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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King Randle wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
Is that reported anywhere IG...or an assumption? |
Just hypothetical |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
Why would Cavs do a stupid thing like that? _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
Why would Cavs do a stupid thing like that? |
Clarkson is a bench player and has limitations, there is no shock in the Cavs doing a buy out, plus they have Sexton and Garland both of those guys do what Clarkson does but better. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Car54 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
Why would Cavs do a stupid thing like that? |
Clarkson is a bench player and has limitations, there is no shock in the Cavs doing a buy out, plus they have Sexton and Garland both of those guys do what Clarkson does but better. |
So u think those 2 players who are in year 1 & year 2 are going to play 48/game? |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Car54 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
Why would Cavs do a stupid thing like that? |
Clarkson is a bench player and has limitations, there is no shock in the Cavs doing a buy out, plus they have Sexton and Garland both of those guys do what Clarkson does but better. |
So u think those 2 players who are in year 1 & year 2 are going to play 48/game? |
They are the future of the Cavs, so they will get more minutes then Clarkson. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Car54 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
Why would Cavs do a stupid thing like that? |
Clarkson is a bench player and has limitations, there is no shock in the Cavs doing a buy out, plus they have Sexton and Garland both of those guys do what Clarkson does but better. |
So u think those 2 players who are in year 1 & year 2 are going to play 48/game? |
They are the future of the Cavs, so they will get more minutes then Clarkson. |
Doesn't mean they are playing 48mins/game |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Is Joakim Noah still a FA? |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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mhan00 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | LakerLogic wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Laker's Fan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | If Kawhi opts out of his deal in 2 years and Giannis is a FA who do you guys prefer between the 2? I gotta say I really like Kawhi but if we have a chance at Giannis that would be amazing... AD + Giannis.. wow. |
The only way Kawhi opts out is if things go horribly wrong with the Clippers, he would be giving up Bird Rights. |
Early Bird rights. If the cap goes up a decent amount, that's not a path to greatest earnings. A cap team (which could include the Lakers) would be. |
No, he would have Early Bird Rights after 2 seasons, leaving then would cost his full Bird Rights after his third season. Lakers will be a cap team? |
He is opting out after 2 years so there is no full Bird Rights. |
He is? Doubtful. |
Of course he’s opting out. He wants the ten year max money. That’s obvious. |
If so then the Clippers will need the cap space to sign him. After 3 years they use his rights and keep everyone on the salary cap. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | King Randle wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
Is that reported anywhere IG...or an assumption? |
Just hypothetical |
🤦🏻♂️
You were doing so good for the past couple months |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | Robster8989 wrote: | Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: | laker50 wrote: | There doesn't seem to be any defensive SFs left worth signing.
Is Luc healthy? If he is it may be worth a gamble.
Otherwise, would just wait until training camp to see what the needs are.
Leave that spot to fill the need. |
Thabo Sefolosha. |
Good call.
Thabo can play D and shoot the 3.
I wonder if we could bring him in on a 2 way?
Or sign to vet min and release someone if Iggy becomes available? |
he is not eligible for a 2 way....only thing we have to offer is the Vet. Minimum. I assume you could always make it non guaranteed, but not sure why he would agree to that. Can always eat a guaranteed minimum contract to open up space. I am suspicious of Thabo at this point....why is an established contributor not signed? Maybe he would not pass physical? |
I keep seeing attempts to plug in a free agent SF. Prefer they are patient until waivers and buy outs to find a gem.
But even if they don't they have players that could play behind James.
Dudley, Green or even Horton -Tucker for 8-10 mpg against bench units.
I get that Horton- Tucker is raw and young. But I'm curious about opinions on him getting limited but consistent mpg. Concentrate on defense and corner 3's. From all I have read he seems to be a high energy player with good athleticism and physicality. Basically guarding the Sefoloshas of the league a few mpg.
Can he do it or am I expecting too much? |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | adkindo wrote: | Robster8989 wrote: | Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: | laker50 wrote: | There doesn't seem to be any defensive SFs left worth signing.
Is Luc healthy? If he is it may be worth a gamble.
Otherwise, would just wait until training camp to see what the needs are.
Leave that spot to fill the need. |
Thabo Sefolosha. |
Good call.
Thabo can play D and shoot the 3.
I wonder if we could bring him in on a 2 way?
Or sign to vet min and release someone if Iggy becomes available? |
he is not eligible for a 2 way....only thing we have to offer is the Vet. Minimum. I assume you could always make it non guaranteed, but not sure why he would agree to that. Can always eat a guaranteed minimum contract to open up space. I am suspicious of Thabo at this point....why is an established contributor not signed? Maybe he would not pass physical? |
I keep seeing attempts to plug in a free agent SF. Prefer they are patient until waivers and buy outs to find a gem.
But even if they don't they have players that could play behind James.
Dudley, Green or even Horton -Tucker for 8-10 mpg against bench units.
I get that Horton- Tucker is raw and young. But I'm curious about opinions on him getting limited but consistent mpg. Concentrate on defense and corner 3's. From all I have read he seems to be a high energy player with good athleticism and physicality. Basically guarding the Sefoloshas of the league a few mpg.
Can he do it or am I expecting too much? |
I see kuzma playing lot of mins at 3, |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | King Randle wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | How would you guys feel about signing Jordan Clarkson if he gets bought out? |
Is that reported anywhere IG...or an assumption? |
Just hypothetical |
🤦🏻♂️
You were doing so good for the past couple months |
IMO Clarkson coming here is more realistic then getting Iggy. |
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