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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:17 am    Post subject:

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We are talking about guys making the minimum, bottom of the barrel sort of situation. Drummond has not been bought out. So it is what it is. But we still have a major big man hole on the bench.


Having the 6th man of the year at backup center averaging 18/7 off the bench at 61% since AD went down isn't enough?

And if the idea is "But we need defense!" Our team is one of the best defensive teams in the league. Whom is currently missing it's best defender at the 4 and the 1 in Davis and Schroeder. That can't be fixed with Caruso and Kuzma. So till they get back we won't be at our defensive best and one singular move wouldn't be significant enough to change that.

We don't have a weakness at backup center, we have the best backup center in the league.


Trez is not a center to me.


He won 6th man of the year playing backup center. Therefore he's not just a center, he's the best backup center in the league.


He won 6th man of the year on a team that had a historically bad playoff elimination which was partly due to the Clippers lack off size and ability to matchup. Meanwhile, the team that Kobe called the biggest team he had seen in a long time and "old school big" went on to win the whole thing.

Trez would be a monster against bench 4's if there was a center next to him that could spread the floor a bit.

KL scored 2pts in the second half of a game, PG was well... PG. Plus Doc is not a great adjustment coach. Look at his history of historic chokes.


I never stated otherwise. I said that their loss in part was due to a lack of size.

Like Yinoma is saying, Trez is not a center.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:18 am    Post subject:

Ironically, a Trez/Ibaka duo would be phenomenal.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:20 am    Post subject:

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We are talking about guys making the minimum, bottom of the barrel sort of situation. Drummond has not been bought out. So it is what it is. But we still have a major big man hole on the bench.


Having the 6th man of the year at backup center averaging 18/7 off the bench at 61% since AD went down isn't enough?

And if the idea is "But we need defense!" Our team is one of the best defensive teams in the league. Whom is currently missing it's best defender at the 4 and the 1 in Davis and Schroeder. That can't be fixed with Caruso and Kuzma. So till they get back we won't be at our defensive best and one singular move wouldn't be significant enough to change that.

We don't have a weakness at backup center, we have the best backup center in the league.

There's nothing wrong with adding a backup center on a vet minimum deal after he's been waived, but trading any asset for one is shortsighted stupidity.

Another defensive wing remains a much bigger priority for the games that really matter more than a regular season minutes eating backup center.


Right. That is my preference too. But if it costs a future 2nd rounder I'm ok with it. Clearly you're not. That's fine too.

You shouldn't be okay with it, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:25 am    Post subject:

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Ironically, a Trez/Ibaka duo would be phenomenal.

how could that happen though? Ibaka didn't sign for vet min
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:29 am    Post subject:

You already know that if we sign Whiteside Vogel is going to be playing a lineup with THT/Caruso/Kuzma/Harrell/Whiteside.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:31 am    Post subject:

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You already know that if we sign Whiteside Vogel is going to be playing a lineup with THT/Caruso/Kuzma/Harrell/Whiteside.


teams will pack the paint and dare any of them shoot from three
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You already know that if we sign Whiteside Vogel is going to be playing a lineup with THT/Caruso/Kuzma/Harrell/Whiteside.


teams will pack the paint and dare any of them shoot from three

and it will work
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:08 am    Post subject:

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This sounds like some of the fears with Dwight pre D39 arrived. Not exactly identical situation but sometimes you have to bank on the culture, roster, and staff you have to bring the best out of a guy.

I don't care for Whiteside but if a deal for McKinnie could be had, you've lost nothing if you end up cutting him in the end.


Miami gave up on him. Rather have a roster spot if we trade Mckinnie.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:22 am    Post subject:

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The Lakers reportedly have plans for their roster spots that don’t include DeMarcus Cousins.
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The Lakers reportedly have plans for their roster spots that don’t include DeMarcus Cousins.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:41 am    Post subject:

Ok guys, I need some help here....

What is Whiteside going to cost and what are you guys willing to pay?

Note, in case some of you didn't see this:

Hassan Whiteside finished with 26 points, 16 rebounds and 5 blocks vs. BKN
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:43 am    Post subject:

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This sounds like some of the fears with Dwight pre D39 arrived. Not exactly identical situation but sometimes you have to bank on the culture, roster, and staff you have to bring the best out of a guy.

I don't care for Whiteside but if a deal for McKinnie could be had, you've lost nothing if you end up cutting him in the end.


Miami gave up on him. Rather have a roster spot if we trade Mckinnie.


You'd want 3 open roster spots?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:46 am    Post subject:

Rather gamble on the buyout market than trade for Whiteside.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:49 am    Post subject:

Lakers likely need to include Gasol in a deal for Whiteside with other fillers like McKinnie and perhaps a 2nd round pick.. Kings don’t have a lot of guys with championship experience so there gonna value Gasol a lot more then Matthews.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:52 am    Post subject:

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Lakers likely need to include Gasol in a deal for Whiteside with other fillers like McKinnie and perhaps a 2nd round pick.. Kings don’t have a lot of guys with championship experience so there gonna value Gasol a lot more then Matthews.


Dream come true...Gasol won't allow it
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:03 pm    Post subject:

So, with Whiteside, are they trading for him or waiting for his buyout? Is he for sure being bought out?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:11 pm    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
MJST wrote:
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We are talking about guys making the minimum, bottom of the barrel sort of situation. Drummond has not been bought out. So it is what it is. But we still have a major big man hole on the bench.


Having the 6th man of the year at backup center averaging 18/7 off the bench at 61% since AD went down isn't enough?

And if the idea is "But we need defense!" Our team is one of the best defensive teams in the league. Whom is currently missing it's best defender at the 4 and the 1 in Davis and Schroeder. That can't be fixed with Caruso and Kuzma. So till they get back we won't be at our defensive best and one singular move wouldn't be significant enough to change that.

We don't have a weakness at backup center, we have the best backup center in the league.

There's nothing wrong with adding a backup center on a vet minimum deal after he's been waived, but trading any asset for one is shortsighted stupidity.

Another defensive wing remains a much bigger priority for the games that really matter more than a regular season minutes eating backup center.


Right. That is my preference too. But if it costs a future 2nd rounder I'm ok with it. Clearly you're not. That's fine too.

You shouldn't be okay with it, though.


Nah. It's not the equivalent to me of salary dumping Zub for Muscala.

It would be a player that doesn't play (McKinnie) and a mid 50s 2nd rounder down the road. That's fine with me.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:11 pm    Post subject:

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Ironically, a Trez/Ibaka duo would be phenomenal.

how could that happen though? Ibaka didn't sign for vet min


I'm saying for the Clips. They had Trezz's Bird rights.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:12 pm    Post subject:

Crazy how people be mowing each other down over a bottom of the barrel backup center on LG.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:21 pm    Post subject:

Y'all think Rob got something up his sleeve... like a Lavine or something?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:22 pm    Post subject:

don't get your hopes up in the free agent market, they are not playing for a reason.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:22 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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Ironically, a Trez/Ibaka duo would be phenomenal.

how could that happen though? Ibaka didn't sign for vet min


I'm saying for the Clips. They had Trezz's Bird rights.

i don't think Trezz was ever going back to the clippers.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:24 pm    Post subject:

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Y'all think Rob got something up his sleeve... like a Lavine or something?


Bulls are in the playoff picture and are playing the best since they had a healthy Derrick Rose, LaVine ain’t going anywhere.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:27 pm    Post subject:

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Y'all think Rob got something up his sleeve... like a Lavine or something?


Bulls are in the playoff picture and are playing the best since they had a healthy Derrick Rose, LaVine ain’t going anywhere.


u the trade proposal guy, what ur gut telling u
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:28 pm    Post subject:

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Ironically, a Trez/Ibaka duo would be phenomenal.


Yeah, but they both signed for the MLE. We didn't have a shot at both of them.
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