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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:15 pm    Post subject:

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Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.

Then please do that. Love to see the 76ers stuck with Butler for 5 years.


I second this. Please re-sign him, don’t give the Lakers FO a chance to make another mistake.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:17 pm    Post subject:

Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:21 pm    Post subject:

WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons


Again, they gave up on "the process" once they shipped off markelle fultz.

Near 100 mil for those 4 sounds a lot but they pretty much have no choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:27 pm    Post subject:

dabask11 wrote:
WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons


Again, they gave up on "the process" once they shipped off markelle fultz.

Near 100 mil for those 4 sounds a lot but they pretty much have no choice.


That’s before Simmons is extended.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:34 pm    Post subject:

I don't think Jimmy is going anywhere; but if he does my guess would be the Clippers.

We're kind of stuck where we are; none of the big FA's are being tied to us or at least as first options and trying to acquire a superstar via trade is becoming almost impossible.

We may have to look at options such as : Vucevic, Kemba, Middleton, etc...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:38 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
dabask11 wrote:
WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons


Again, they gave up on "the process" once they shipped off markelle fultz.

Near 100 mil for those 4 sounds a lot but they pretty much have no choice.


That’s before Simmons is extended.


And they will likely extend him down the line. If there's a chance to take advantage of his rookie contract, this FA class would be the best time since the next ones aren't exactly on the same level in comparison.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:40 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
dabask11 wrote:
WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons


Again, they gave up on "the process" once they shipped off markelle fultz.

Near 100 mil for those 4 sounds a lot but they pretty much have no choice.


That’s before Simmons is extended.


They should trade Simmons. He doesn't fit with the other pieces.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:48 pm    Post subject:

WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons

Simmons is still on his rookie contract for 2019-20.

2019-20 Cap Holds
Joel Embiid 27504630
Tobias Harris 22200000
Jimmy Butler 19841627 (Player Option)
J.J. Redick 15925000
Ben Simmons 8113930
Jonathon Simmons 5700000
Zhaire Smith 3058800
Jonah Bolden 1698450
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Total 104042437
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:50 pm    Post subject:

LakerLogic wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
dabask11 wrote:
WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons


Again, they gave up on "the process" once they shipped off markelle fultz.

Near 100 mil for those 4 sounds a lot but they pretty much have no choice.


That’s before Simmons is extended.


They should trade Simmons. He doesn't fit with the other pieces.


Lol no. He is the piece that makes everything go.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:52 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
dabask11 wrote:
WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons


Again, they gave up on "the process" once they shipped off markelle fultz.

Near 100 mil for those 4 sounds a lot but they pretty much have no choice.


That’s before Simmons is extended.


They should trade Simmons. He doesn't fit with the other pieces.


Lol no. He is the piece that makes everything go.


Simmons is one jumper away from being top 5 in the league. Future MVP. Sure, trade him away ...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
dabask11 wrote:
WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons


Again, they gave up on "the process" once they shipped off markelle fultz.

Near 100 mil for those 4 sounds a lot but they pretty much have no choice.


That’s before Simmons is extended.


They should trade Simmons. He doesn't fit with the other pieces.


Lol no. He is the piece that makes everything go.


Simmons is one jumper away from being top 5 in the league. Future MVP. Sure, trade him away ...

I think he meant, they should trade Simmons to us... which is something I think we can all agree on, especially if we only have to match the dollars of his rookie contract.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:56 pm    Post subject:

LAL1947 wrote:
drae wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
LakerLogic wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
dabask11 wrote:
WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons


Again, they gave up on "the process" once they shipped off markelle fultz.

Near 100 mil for those 4 sounds a lot but they pretty much have no choice.


That’s before Simmons is extended.


They should trade Simmons. He doesn't fit with the other pieces.


Lol no. He is the piece that makes everything go.


Simmons is one jumper away from being top 5 in the league. Future MVP. Sure, trade him away ...

I think he meant, they should trade Simmons to us... which is something I think we can all agree on, especially if we only have to match the dollars of his rookie contract.


Oh, if they trade him to us I'd be ecstatic!

He's someone you can build a team around for 10+ years. Holy (bleep)!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:00 pm    Post subject:

I wouldn't want a locker room with Jimmy Butler and LeBron James at the same time.

You're asking for trouble.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:16 pm    Post subject:

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I wouldn't want a locker room with Jimmy Butler and LeBron James at the same time.

You're asking for trouble.

Who would you want as a realistic target, then?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:20 pm    Post subject:

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I wouldn't want a locker room with Jimmy Butler and LeBron James at the same time.

You're asking for trouble.

Who would you want as a realistic target, then?


Nobody but would be 1st 1 in line to complain about it 😂🤣
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:20 pm    Post subject:

One jumper away? lol

He literally can't shoot. Can you show me one example of a guy who was this bad and became a competent shooter?

He's not even shooting with the correct hand.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:21 pm    Post subject:

alleyoop wrote:
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I wouldn't want a locker room with Jimmy Butler and LeBron James at the same time.

You're asking for trouble.

Who would you want as a realistic target, then?


Klay
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:25 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
I wouldn't want a locker room with Jimmy Butler and LeBron James at the same time.

You're asking for trouble.

Personally, although I have reservations based on Jimmy Butler's exits from his past two teams... I would not say I didn't want him here so definitively. It all depends on who is available and what kind of deal he'd be open to. I'm kinda set on Kawhi... but if Kawhi, Klay, Kyrie, KD aren't options... would a one year 27.6-32.7m contract be so bad from our perspective? He might not even be open to a short-term contract... just asking, would that be so bad for us? At the end of the day, he's a lengthy shooting guard whose skill set would fit great with Lonzo, BI, Kuzma... and he's a hard worker. That'd be better than giving up any of our three main young guys for Beal IMO... subtracts a quality player from Philly... and still keeps a max slot open for AD if Butler doesn't work out.

Lonzo, Butler, Kuz/Ingram, Lebron, Javale.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:36 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
alleyoop wrote:
MJST wrote:
I wouldn't want a locker room with Jimmy Butler and LeBron James at the same time.

You're asking for trouble.

Who would you want as a realistic target, then?


Klay


He seems like he's using the Lakers name to jack up his price at the Warriors. I don't think he's actually realistic unfortunately
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:51 pm    Post subject:

LAL1947 wrote:
WindyCityLakerFan wrote:
Embiid wrote:
Butler wants 5th year. We have his bird rights and are only team that can offer him that. Only way he leaves is if we don't offer him that which I can't see.


That’s a got to be close to 100 million next year for Butler, Embiid, Harris and Simmons

Simmons is still on his rookie contract for 2019-20.

2019-20 Cap Holds
Joel Embiid 27504630
Tobias Harris 22200000
Jimmy Butler 19841627 (Player Option)
J.J. Redick 15925000
Ben Simmons 8113930
Jonathon Simmons 5700000
Zhaire Smith 3058800
Jonah Bolden 1698450
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Total 104042437

IF Butler, Simmons, Embiid can buy into each other, those 3 along with Tobias are an extremely good core to go over the cap and lock in on. I'll pick them as finals out of the East over the Celtics and even potential a Durant-Kyrie teamup in NY.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:54 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
alleyoop wrote:
MJST wrote:
I wouldn't want a locker room with Jimmy Butler and LeBron James at the same time.

You're asking for trouble.

Who would you want as a realistic target, then?


Klay


I don't see Klay leaving GS, unless they don't offer him max, which I'm sure they will.

However, if he leaves GS, it would be to join the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:02 pm    Post subject:

I think it will be very difficult to convince a legitimate star to join this team this summer after what became clear at the deadline. I do not see anyone with options wanting to be a part of an organization where one player and his agent have so much control.

I also think it would be a disaster to punt cap space another year also. We may be looking at Klutch clients like Bledsoe next summer.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:09 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
I wouldn't want a locker room with Jimmy Butler and LeBron James at the same time.

You're asking for trouble.


I agree with that, Butler needs to be in control and the biggest control freak in the world is LBJ. I only see one or two players fitting in with LBJ, that's either AD or Kyrie. Maybe KL could be added to those two.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:21 pm    Post subject:

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MJST wrote:
I wouldn't want a locker room with Jimmy Butler and LeBron James at the same time.

You're asking for trouble.


I agree with that, Butler needs to be in control and the biggest control freak in the world is LBJ. I only see one or two players fitting in with LBJ, that's either AD or Kyrie. Maybe KL could be added to those two.


I can see Philly cutting Butler loose this summer, and him signing with a team like Brooklyn.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:24 pm    Post subject:

Can't believe we prioritized signing an old LeBron over Paul George.
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