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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:43 am    Post subject:

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I shriek when I hear the name Melo. Can we please not bring that sloth in Lakerland. Melo takes good chemistry and destroys it, so NO MELO PLEASEE!


Yeah, one of Lebron's good friends, but I'm sure he's going to destroy chemistry. Come on. He and Lebron will be taking the team up to Napa and Sonoma on team building wine tastings. That's as bad as the chemistry is going to get.

At this point are we really going to quibble over a minimum contract signing so Lebron can have his wine buddy with him? They have to build an entire roster with a limited budget. If Lebron wants Melo and Melo wants to come, take him. It isn't like they're spending the max slot on him.


I think Melo has been sufficiently humbled. He knows he has to take a lesser role, and I think he would gladly do so on a team with LeBron and AD.
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The #Lakers path to AD + a Max Player.

Pre-7/6
Negotiate deals for a Max player ($32.7M), & 2 cheaper Vets ($7M, $3.6M)

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Renounce cap holds
Sign a Max
Sign 2 Vets w/ space & an exception to get over cap
Process a 3-team, 7-player trade
Complete roster w/ exceptions & mins


I don’t believe that you can renounce cap holds. If so why wouldn’t everyone?


He is talking about guys like KCP, Bullock, and Muscala
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The #Lakers path to AD + a Max Player.

Pre-7/6
Negotiate deals for a Max player ($32.7M), & 2 cheaper Vets ($7M, $3.6M)

7/6
Renounce cap holds
Sign a Max
Sign 2 Vets w/ space & an exception to get over cap
Process a 3-team, 7-player trade
Complete roster w/ exceptions & mins


I don’t believe that you can renounce cap holds. If so why wouldn’t everyone?


Of course you can renounce cap holds. In this case, we're talking about McGee and Bullock.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:44 am    Post subject:

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The #Lakers path to AD + a Max Player.

Pre-7/6
Negotiate deals for a Max player ($32.7M), & 2 cheaper Vets ($7M, $3.6M)

7/6
Renounce cap holds
Sign a Max
Sign 2 Vets w/ space & an exception to get over cap
Process a 3-team, 7-player trade
Complete roster w/ exceptions & mins


3 Team 7 player trade is most likely the hardest hurdle but it will be done with cash considerations.


Pretty sure this is missing the cap hold for the #4 pick and is completely wrong. No?
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I don't see why they would waive Korver unless he lost his ability to shoot.

He's still better than anyone we have from three at 37


Memphis has $4m reasons. They are a team that loses money most years.

I'm assuming they're going to tank to get another high pick and give their young guys big minutes.


They probably won’t pick up their option for Avery Bradley. Bradley and Beverly or Collison would be a nice alternative if we can’t sign a max.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:44 am    Post subject:

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All Hail Lord Pelinka!


Why what did i.miss? What did he do?
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The #Lakers path to AD + a Max Player.

Pre-7/6
Negotiate deals for a Max player ($32.7M), & 2 cheaper Vets ($7M, $3.6M)

7/6
Renounce cap holds
Sign a Max
Sign 2 Vets w/ space & an exception to get over cap
Process a 3-team, 7-player trade
Complete roster w/ exceptions & mins


3 Team 7 player trade is most likely the hardest hurdle but it will be done with cash considerations.


Pretty sure this is missing the cap hold for the #4 pick and is completely wrong. No?


It is, but perhaps he's assuming that the Lakers will trade the pick tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:46 am    Post subject:

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A team to keep an eye on in the Al Horford sweepstakes is the Brooklyn Nets, league source says. The #Nets are a team on the rise, Al's close ties to head coach Kenny Atkinson and the team's cap space mentioned as the main reasons.


Would be such (bleep) poetry if years after fleecing Brooklyn they turn around and sign Bostons two best players outright.


C: Allen
PF: Horford
SF: Harris?
SG: Irving
PG: LeVert

Not bad.

PG: Irving / Dinwiddie
SG: LeVert / Joe Harris
SF: Prince / Kurocs
PF: Horford / ??
C: Allen / Ed Davis

If they get Horford, that'll finally address their biggest weakness in the East... someone who can help defend Giannis/Embiid in the playoffs.

They can add PF and SF backup with their 27th and 31st picks (PF: Bazley, Samanic, Claxton.... SF: KPJ, Thybulle, Okeke, Cam Johnson).


Let D'Lo go to sign a last contract of career big man?

What does D'lo have to do with Horford?? Kyrie is why he gets let go off... because they will already have 4 great options at positions 1-2: Kyrie/Dinwiddie + Levert/Joe Harris. So that is something I would do with eyes closed because Kyrie is that much better now and will be for the foreseeable future too IMO.

Horford addresses their biggest weakness, someone to help control the paint against Giannis/Embiid. Did you watch them against the 76ers in the playoffs? All they did was jack up threes and they were out-sized and out-matched everywhere else.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:46 am    Post subject:

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I don't see why they would waive Korver unless he lost his ability to shoot.

He's still better than anyone we have from three at 37


Memphis has $4m reasons. They are a team that loses money most years.

I'm assuming they're going to tank to get another high pick and give their young guys big minutes.


They probably won’t pick up their option for Avery Bradley. Bradley and Beverly or Collison would be a nice alternative if we can’t sign a max.


Bradley can't stay healthy and is living off his early reputation. I would put him towards the end of the list. Productivity doesn't mean anything if you can't stay on the court. Had enough of that with Lonzo.


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All Hail Lord Pelinka!


Why what did i.miss? What did he do?


Can't wait to hear that on Game of Zones lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:48 am    Post subject:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1141399102531526657

The Dallas Mavericks could be a potential suitor for Al Horford, per
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:49 am    Post subject:

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The added benefits of having both Lebron and AD on the same team is that we now could attract quality FA for cheap. We just need to find the Iguodala and the Livingston to fill out our roster and we're good. I'm confident it will happen. In Rob I trust.


neither of those guys are cheap...both are overpaid


Iguodala was cheap when he first signed with the Warriors. Not his recent contract though. As always, there will be players who are hungry for a championship and will sign for less.


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I shriek when I hear the name Melo. Can we please not bring that sloth in Lakerland. Melo takes good chemistry and destroys it, so NO MELO PLEASEE!


Yeah, one of Lebron's good friends, but I'm sure he's going to destroy chemistry. Come on. He and Lebron will be taking the team up to Napa and Sonoma on team building wine tastings. That's as bad as the chemistry is going to get.

At this point are we really going to quibble over a minimum contract signing so Lebron can have his wine buddy with him? They have to build an entire roster with a limited budget. If Lebron wants Melo and Melo wants to come, take him. It isn't like they're spending the max slot on him.


I think Melo has been sufficiently humbled. He knows he has to take a lesser role, and I think he would gladly do so on a team with LeBron and AD.


Yeah he would be a 10th man at best but probably happy to be with LBJ and possibly finally get a ring.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:50 am    Post subject:

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RG73 wrote:
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I shriek when I hear the name Melo. Can we please not bring that sloth in Lakerland. Melo takes good chemistry and destroys it, so NO MELO PLEASEE!


Yeah, one of Lebron's good friends, but I'm sure he's going to destroy chemistry. Come on. He and Lebron will be taking the team up to Napa and Sonoma on team building wine tastings. That's as bad as the chemistry is going to get.

At this point are we really going to quibble over a minimum contract signing so Lebron can have his wine buddy with him? They have to build an entire roster with a limited budget. If Lebron wants Melo and Melo wants to come, take him. It isn't like they're spending the max slot on him.


I think Melo has been sufficiently humbled. He knows he has to take a lesser role, and I think he would gladly do so on a team with LeBron and AD.


This was precisely what they said in OkC and again in Houston. ‘Will be nothing but open shots for Melo!’ In his last game with Houston he took 11 shots and missed 10 of them before they finally told him to go away. And wouldn’t you know it, their season turned around.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:52 am    Post subject:

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https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1141391608040087552

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The #Lakers path to AD + a Max Player.

Pre-7/6
Negotiate deals for a Max player ($32.7M), & 2 cheaper Vets ($7M, $3.6M)

7/6
Renounce cap holds
Sign a Max
Sign 2 Vets w/ space & an exception to get over cap
Process a 3-team, 7-player trade
Complete roster w/ exceptions & mins


3 Team 7 player trade is most likely the hardest hurdle but it will be done with cash considerations.


Pretty sure this is missing the cap hold for the #4 pick and is completely wrong. No?


No MLE or BAE when using cap space. Didn't utilize #4.
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The #Lakers path to AD + a Max Player.

Pre-7/6
Negotiate deals for a Max player ($32.7M), & 2 cheaper Vets ($7M, $3.6M)

7/6
Renounce cap holds
Sign a Max
Sign 2 Vets w/ space & an exception to get over cap
Process a 3-team, 7-player trade
Complete roster w/ exceptions & mins


I don’t believe that you can renounce cap holds. If so why wouldn’t everyone?


Of course you can renounce cap holds. In this case, we're talking about McGee and Bullock.


Those are players, not cap holds.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject:

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I shriek when I hear the name Melo. Can we please not bring that sloth in Lakerland. Melo takes good chemistry and destroys it, so NO MELO PLEASEE!


Yeah, one of Lebron's good friends, but I'm sure he's going to destroy chemistry. Come on. He and Lebron will be taking the team up to Napa and Sonoma on team building wine tastings. That's as bad as the chemistry is going to get.

At this point are we really going to quibble over a minimum contract signing so Lebron can have his wine buddy with him? They have to build an entire roster with a limited budget. If Lebron wants Melo and Melo wants to come, take him. It isn't like they're spending the max slot on him.


I think Melo has been sufficiently humbled. He knows he has to take a lesser role, and I think he would gladly do so on a team with LeBron and AD.


This was precisely what they said in OkC and again in Houston. ‘Will be nothing but open shots for Melo!’ In his last game with Houston he took 11 shots and missed 10 of them before they finally told him to go away. And wouldn’t you know it, their season turned around.


I'm all for looking at other options, but I'm not going to be upset if we end up signing him to a vet min deal.
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https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1141391608040087552

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The #Lakers path to AD + a Max Player.

Pre-7/6
Negotiate deals for a Max player ($32.7M), & 2 cheaper Vets ($7M, $3.6M)

7/6
Renounce cap holds
Sign a Max
Sign 2 Vets w/ space & an exception to get over cap
Process a 3-team, 7-player trade
Complete roster w/ exceptions & mins


I don’t believe that you can renounce cap holds. If so why wouldn’t everyone?


Of course you can renounce cap holds. In this case, we're talking about McGee and Bullock.


Those are players, not cap holds.


Semantics...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject:

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LAL1947 wrote:
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A team to keep an eye on in the Al Horford sweepstakes is the Brooklyn Nets, league source says. The #Nets are a team on the rise, Al's close ties to head coach Kenny Atkinson and the team's cap space mentioned as the main reasons.


Would be such (bleep) poetry if years after fleecing Brooklyn they turn around and sign Bostons two best players outright.


C: Allen
PF: Horford
SF: Harris?
SG: Irving
PG: LeVert

Not bad.

PG: Irving / Dinwiddie
SG: LeVert / Joe Harris
SF: Prince / Kurocs
PF: Horford / ??
C: Allen / Ed Davis

If they get Horford, that'll finally address their biggest weakness in the East... someone who can help defend Giannis/Embiid in the playoffs.

They can add PF and SF backup with their 27th and 31st picks (PF: Bazley, Samanic, Claxton.... SF: KPJ, Thybulle, Okeke, Cam Johnson).


Let D'Lo go to sign a last contract of career big man?

What does D'lo have to do with Horford?? Kyrie is why he gets let go off... because they will already have 4 great options at positions 1-2: Kyrie/Dinwiddie + Levert/Joe Harris. So that is something I would do with eyes closed because Kyrie is that much better now and will be for the foreseeable future too IMO.

Horford addresses their biggest weakness, someone to help control the paint against Giannis/Embiid. Did you watch them against the 76ers in the playoffs? All they did was jack up threes and they were out-sized and out-matched everywhere else.


They could sign D'lo and then trade Dinwiddie for a big guy... which was kinda my point. 10 years of Russell is better than 3 of Horford. But I do understand where you're coming from
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I don't see why they would waive Korver unless he lost his ability to shoot.

He's still better than anyone we have from three at 37


For sure. I would take Korver, Reddick and even bring in Melo for the vet min. Here are three guys you can't really leave open while AD and Lebron reek havoc down low....

Just my opinion...


The problem with Melo is that he is nowhere near NBA shape. At least that's what the mainstream windbags are saying.


Looks like he is working on it though....and I am not a Melo fan...

https://twitter.com/overtime/status/1140779366571532288


Not a Melo fan too but he’s a low risk, higher reward if it works out. For the vet min, you won’t find a microwave off the bench like him.


Was he a microwave in Houston? How many years does Melo have to be terrible before this fever breaks?


Houston expected a different role.. The role for him here would be less than 10 minutes to relieve Kuz. If he can’t play that role, We can cut him anytime. That Houston experience would probably humbled him so I’m pretty sure he can settle and go out in a brighter note. Any sign of ego from him would be the end. So yes on Melo for me.

I'd prefer we give those minutes to someone like Jonathan Williams and help prepare him for playing minutes in the playoffs. His energy/hustle on defense could be much more valuable than whatever I expect from Melo at this point.
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RG73 wrote:
Stumpy25 wrote:

I shriek when I hear the name Melo. Can we please not bring that sloth in Lakerland. Melo takes good chemistry and destroys it, so NO MELO PLEASEE!


Yeah, one of Lebron's good friends, but I'm sure he's going to destroy chemistry. Come on. He and Lebron will be taking the team up to Napa and Sonoma on team building wine tastings. That's as bad as the chemistry is going to get.

At this point are we really going to quibble over a minimum contract signing so Lebron can have his wine buddy with him? They have to build an entire roster with a limited budget. If Lebron wants Melo and Melo wants to come, take him. It isn't like they're spending the max slot on him.


I think Melo has been sufficiently humbled. He knows he has to take a lesser role, and I think he would gladly do so on a team with LeBron and AD.


This was precisely what they said in OkC and again in Houston. ‘Will be nothing but open shots for Melo!’ In his last game with Houston he took 11 shots and missed 10 of them before they finally told him to go away. And wouldn’t you know it, their season turned around.


I'm all for looking at other options, but I'm not going to be upset if we end up signing him to a vet min deal.


You definitely should be. He actively hurts the team he plays for when he’s on the floor.
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RG73 wrote:
Stumpy25 wrote:

I shriek when I hear the name Melo. Can we please not bring that sloth in Lakerland. Melo takes good chemistry and destroys it, so NO MELO PLEASEE!


Yeah, one of Lebron's good friends, but I'm sure he's going to destroy chemistry. Come on. He and Lebron will be taking the team up to Napa and Sonoma on team building wine tastings. That's as bad as the chemistry is going to get.

At this point are we really going to quibble over a minimum contract signing so Lebron can have his wine buddy with him? They have to build an entire roster with a limited budget. If Lebron wants Melo and Melo wants to come, take him. It isn't like they're spending the max slot on him.


I think Melo has been sufficiently humbled. He knows he has to take a lesser role, and I think he would gladly do so on a team with LeBron and AD.


Yeah he would be a 10th man at best but probably happy to be with LBJ and possibly finally get a ring.


Yeah, Is the same boat if we signed VCarter. 4 or 5 DNP, then a blow out, either way, and can get some minutes. Mantain health, and be ready if needed in playoffs.
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anth2000 wrote:
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Sentient Meat wrote:
I don't see why they would waive Korver unless he lost his ability to shoot.

He's still better than anyone we have from three at 37


For sure. I would take Korver, Reddick and even bring in Melo for the vet min. Here are three guys you can't really leave open while AD and Lebron reek havoc down low....

Just my opinion...


The problem with Melo is that he is nowhere near NBA shape. At least that's what the mainstream windbags are saying.


Looks like he is working on it though....and I am not a Melo fan...

https://twitter.com/overtime/status/1140779366571532288


Not a Melo fan too but he’s a low risk, higher reward if it works out. For the vet min, you won’t find a microwave off the bench like him.


Was he a microwave in Houston? How many years does Melo have to be terrible before this fever breaks?


Houston expected a different role.. The role for him here would be less than 10 minutes to relieve Kuz. If he can’t play that role, We can cut him anytime. That Houston experience would probably humbled him so I’m pretty sure he can settle and go out in a brighter note. Any sign of ego from him would be the end. So yes on Melo for me.



Some of it can have been as a favor for CP3.
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https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1141391608040087552

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The #Lakers path to AD + a Max Player.

Pre-7/6
Negotiate deals for a Max player ($32.7M), & 2 cheaper Vets ($7M, $3.6M)

7/6
Renounce cap holds
Sign a Max
Sign 2 Vets w/ space & an exception to get over cap
Process a 3-team, 7-player trade
Complete roster w/ exceptions & mins


I don’t believe that you can renounce cap holds. If so why wouldn’t everyone?


Of course you can renounce cap holds. In this case, we're talking about McGee and Bullock.


Those are players, not cap holds.


Semantics...


"cap holds" is correct....you are not renouncing the player because the player is not under contract....you are renouncing the cap hold associated with the player which means you lose Non-Bird, Early Bird, and Bird rights on the player that was previously on your roster.
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Breaks down the cap and all I like it

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The #Lakers path to AD + a Max Player.

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Negotiate deals for a Max player ($32.7M), & 2 cheaper Vets ($7M, $3.6M)

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Process a 3-team, 7-player trade
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I don’t believe that you can renounce cap holds. If so why wouldn’t everyone?


Of course you can renounce cap holds. In this case, we're talking about McGee and Bullock.


Those are players, not cap holds.


Semantics...


"cap holds" is correct....you are not renouncing the player because the player is not under contract....you are renouncing the cap hold associated with the player which means you lose Non-Bird, Early Bird, and Bird rights on the player that was previously on your roster.


Well said.
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