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| Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | After December 15, kcp + 4 2nd Rd picks for Covington |
If it only took 2nd round picks to nab Covington then he woulda been traded by now. They likely want multiple firsts for him. |
You guys really like Robert Covington ey? |
Yes. Perfect 3 and D guy. Can even play small ball center. Good contract. This is all assuming his knee isn’t jacked. |
In what world can he play small ball center? 6'9 225. |
He has a 7’2 wingspan.
epak He missed time with a knee injury. I don’t know how bad it is. |
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Super Mega Team
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| Dreamshake wrote: | | Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | After December 15, kcp + 4 2nd Rd picks for Covington |
If it only took 2nd round picks to nab Covington then he woulda been traded by now. They likely want multiple firsts for him. |
You guys really like Robert Covington ey? |
Yes. Perfect 3 and D guy. Can even play small ball center. Good contract. This is all assuming his knee isn’t jacked. |
In what world can he play small ball center? 6'9 225. |
He has a 7’2 wingspan.
epak He missed time with a knee injury. I don’t know how bad it is. |
He isn't strong enough.
Let me know when he logs minutes at center because he doesn't.
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| Dreamshake wrote: | | Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | After December 15, kcp + 4 2nd Rd picks for Covington |
If it only took 2nd round picks to nab Covington then he woulda been traded by now. They likely want multiple firsts for him. |
You guys really like Robert Covington ey? |
Yes. Perfect 3 and D guy. Can even play small ball center. Good contract. This is all assuming his knee isn’t jacked. |
In what world can he play small ball center? 6'9 225. |
He has a 7’2 wingspan.
epak He missed time with a knee injury. I don’t know how bad it is. |
Well, I guess using that logic, THT could play small ball center too with his 7'1" wingspan... but will he be any good at it... and do we really want him to? 
RoCo is great defending 3-4, and most 2s... but not most 1s and 5s. |
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| Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | After December 15, kcp + 4 2nd Rd picks for Covington |
If it only took 2nd round picks to nab Covington then he woulda been traded by now. They likely want multiple firsts for him. |
You guys really like Robert Covington ey? |
Yes. Perfect 3 and D guy. Can even play small ball center. Good contract. This is all assuming his knee isn’t jacked. |
In what world can he play small ball center? 6'9 225. |
He has a 7’2 wingspan.
epak He missed time with a knee injury. I don’t know how bad it is. |
He isn't strong enough.
Let me know when he logs minutes at center because he doesn't. |
We already saw that with Kuz. You have to be strong to control the glass and at least alter shots to play a small ball center . Size and length are not enough even in today’s game. Our center rotation is already solid. |
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Dreamshake
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| Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | After December 15, kcp + 4 2nd Rd picks for Covington |
If it only took 2nd round picks to nab Covington then he woulda been traded by now. They likely want multiple firsts for him. |
You guys really like Robert Covington ey? |
Yes. Perfect 3 and D guy. Can even play small ball center. Good contract. This is all assuming his knee isn’t jacked. |
In what world can he play small ball center? 6'9 225. |
He has a 7’2 wingspan.
epak He missed time with a knee injury. I don’t know how bad it is. |
He isn't strong enough.
Let me know when he logs minutes at center because he doesn't. |
Hence “small ball” center, like we used PJ Tucker. |
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Super Mega Team
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| Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| Dreamshake wrote: | | Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | After December 15, kcp + 4 2nd Rd picks for Covington |
If it only took 2nd round picks to nab Covington then he woulda been traded by now. They likely want multiple firsts for him. |
You guys really like Robert Covington ey? |
Yes. Perfect 3 and D guy. Can even play small ball center. Good contract. This is all assuming his knee isn’t jacked. |
In what world can he play small ball center? 6'9 225. |
He has a 7’2 wingspan.
epak He missed time with a knee injury. I don’t know how bad it is. |
He isn't strong enough.
Let me know when he logs minutes at center because he doesn't. |
Hence “small ball” center, like we used PJ Tucker. |
I'm saying he isn't strong enough or have the instincts to play "small ball" center, like PJ Tucker.
Go look under play by play:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/covinro01.html#all_advanced
But if y'all want to run that, have fun with that olé line with Russ, Harden, Gordon, PF, Covington small ball lineup.
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818fan
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| Lord Covington playing small ball 5 is absolutely ridiculous. Just let it go |
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Sure kuzma can play better defense than Covington
NBA All-Defensive First team:
Rudy Gobert
Anthony Davis
Victor Oladipo
Jrue Holiday
Robert Covington
Covington would be perfect |
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Yeah watched him a bunch when he was on the 76ers. He is def not a small ball center. Doesn't have the mentality or Tucker's booty to bang down low like that.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Epic1971 wrote: | | I think I would take a shot on Faried. He was balling for Houston last year. He is always an energy guy who plays bigger than 6'8". To me, he would be a great addition to the second unit and good insurance for nights/games when we need to rest AD, LeBron, and Boogie and monitor minutes. |
I've been advocating for this since FA started...He's also a decent defender...I know he can't shoot but IMO his energy and hustle makes up for that. |
He’s actually a horrible defender. That’s why he sat in the playoffs. |
We disagree...he's a decent defender...the fact he couldn't spread the floor is why he sat. He averaged 13 and 8 while shooting 58% in 25 games with Houston. We can actually use that off the bench. |
He's not a good defender. He gives effort but is just a terrible on/off ball defender. But he really hustles but it doesn't amount to actual on court efficacy. IIRC the advanced stats also show that too. |
I said he was decent...he gives the effort and with McGee and AD behind him that helps. Those IIRC stats doesn't reflect all...having said that it doesn't matter cuz we're not going to get him anyways. |
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| King Randle wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Epic1971 wrote: | | I think I would take a shot on Faried. He was balling for Houston last year. He is always an energy guy who plays bigger than 6'8". To me, he would be a great addition to the second unit and good insurance for nights/games when we need to rest AD, LeBron, and Boogie and monitor minutes. |
I've been advocating for this since FA started...He's also a decent defender...I know he can't shoot but IMO his energy and hustle makes up for that. |
He’s actually a horrible defender. That’s why he sat in the playoffs. |
We disagree...he's a decent defender...the fact he couldn't spread the floor is why he sat. He averaged 13 and 8 while shooting 58% in 25 games with Houston. We can actually use that off the bench. |
He's not a good defender. He gives effort but is just a terrible on/off ball defender. But he really hustles but it doesn't amount to actual on court efficacy. IIRC the advanced stats also show that too. |
I said he was decent...he gives the effort and with McGee and AD behind him that helps. Those IIRC stats doesn't reflect all...having said that it doesn't matter cuz we're not going to get him anyways. |
It just reminds me of what John Wooden used to say.
| Quote: | | Don't mistake activity for achievement. |
Great activity but not any positive defensive result. Gambles too much. Bites pump fakes, etc.
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I was looking at minute distribution and man, landing Iguodala would put so many other pieces in place. You only need him for 20-22 mpg, but he just gives you a seven player rotation that makes sense. Then, the other three players getting minutes can come from the five players next on the depth chart, depending on match ups, health and who is playing well.
Another guy in a similar mold, though he's always hurt is another former Pelinka Client, Dante Exum. |
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | I was looking at minute distribution and man, landing Iguodala would put so many other pieces in place. You only need him for 20-22 mpg, but he just gives you a seven player rotation that makes sense. Then, the other three players getting minutes can come from the five players next on the depth chart, depending on match ups, health and who is playing well.
Another guy in a similar mold, though he's always hurt is another former Pelinka Client, Dante Exum. |
He fits into almost any system and roster in the NBA.
I coveted him as a Kobe running mate years ago. Would have been amazing together.
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | I was looking at minute distribution and man, landing Iguodala would put so many other pieces in place. You only need him for 20-22 mpg, but he just gives you a seven player rotation that makes sense. Then, the other three players getting minutes can come from the five players next on the depth chart, depending on match ups, health and who is playing well.
Another guy in a similar mold, though he's always hurt is another former Pelinka Client, Dante Exum. |
at this age, Iggy cant be playing 20-22mins per game.
He should start playing after all star game to get him in shape for the post season run.
let kuzma play all the mins at 3/4 in the meantime |
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I do fear that the Clips will be in the mix for Iggy too.
However, PG/KL do not seem to be the type of guys who are widely loved in the NBA like LBJ/AD are. Could be interesting b/c Clips have more $ they can offer too.
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | I was looking at minute distribution and man, landing Iguodala would put so many other pieces in place. You only need him for 20-22 mpg, but he just gives you a seven player rotation that makes sense. Then, the other three players getting minutes can come from the five players next on the depth chart, depending on match ups, health and who is playing well.
Another guy in a similar mold, though he's always hurt is another former Pelinka Client, Dante Exum. |
at this age, Iggy cant be playing 20-22mins per game.
He should start playing after all star game to get him in shape for the post season run.
let kuzma play all the mins at 3/4 in the meantime |
I can see Iggy to play more if Lebron sits out and for load management.
But I agree, all he need is to be in great shape comes playoff time when it matters .
But for regular season.
For all those who keep reiterating about the need for Lebron backup
How and where does Kuz get his minutes? |
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| CRoost wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | I was looking at minute distribution and man, landing Iguodala would put so many other pieces in place. You only need him for 20-22 mpg, but he just gives you a seven player rotation that makes sense. Then, the other three players getting minutes can come from the five players next on the depth chart, depending on match ups, health and who is playing well.
Another guy in a similar mold, though he's always hurt is another former Pelinka Client, Dante Exum. |
at this age, Iggy cant be playing 20-22mins per game.
He should start playing after all star game to get him in shape for the post season run.
let kuzma play all the mins at 3/4 in the meantime |
I can see Iggy to play more if Lebron sits out and for load management.
But I agree, all he need is to be in great shape comes playoff time when it matters .
But for regular season.
For all those who keep reiterating about the need for Lebron backup
How and where does Kuz get his minutes? |
I think if AD wants to be a PF starter, Kuz will be our 6th man backing up both forward positions.
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | I was looking at minute distribution and man, landing Iguodala would put so many other pieces in place. You only need him for 20-22 mpg, but he just gives you a seven player rotation that makes sense. Then, the other three players getting minutes can come from the five players next on the depth chart, depending on match ups, health and who is playing well.
Another guy in a similar mold, though he's always hurt is another former Pelinka Client, Dante Exum. |
at this age, Iggy cant be playing 20-22mins per game.
He should start playing after all star game to get him in shape for the post season run.
let kuzma play all the mins at 3/4 in the meantime |
yeah, Iggy went 70% last year during the season, and was gassed late in the playoffs |
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| Dreamshake wrote: | | Super Mega Team wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | After December 15, kcp + 4 2nd Rd picks for Covington |
If it only took 2nd round picks to nab Covington then he woulda been traded by now. They likely want multiple firsts for him. |
You guys really like Robert Covington ey? |
Yes. Perfect 3 and D guy. Can even play small ball center. Good contract. This is all assuming his knee isn’t jacked. |
In what world can he play small ball center? 6'9 225. |
He has a 7’2 wingspan.
epak He missed time with a knee injury. I don’t know how bad it is. |
He’s being overrated. Decent player but not worthy of first.
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| PRLakeShow wrote: | | mirak wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | At AD's press conference, he made it clear that he doesn't want to play the 5. The Lakers even went as far to sign two free agent centers in DMC and McGee to fill the 5 spot and thus satisfy AD. Where does this leave Kuzma? Kuz is more of a defensive liability at the 3 than he is at the 4. Is he just going to simply be AD and Lebron's back up? Sounds like he is going to get a llot of minutes at the 3, especially with Lebron being on load management. Im not sure Kuzma is the best long term piece to put next to AD. Lakers also need to be concerned that Kuzma will not be happy coming off the bench. Sure he has a great attitude, but he also has the confidence to not only want to be a starter, but he might feel that he should be a first option on the team, so idk how this is going to work for us, long term. |
Kuzma, unfortunately, is bait. He's the final young piece with trade value. We're gonna see what he's made of this year. |
I can see him getting traded by the TD for let's say Bradley Beal. |
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| adkindo wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | I was looking at minute distribution and man, landing Iguodala would put so many other pieces in place. You only need him for 20-22 mpg, but he just gives you a seven player rotation that makes sense. Then, the other three players getting minutes can come from the five players next on the depth chart, depending on match ups, health and who is playing well.
Another guy in a similar mold, though he's always hurt is another former Pelinka Client, Dante Exum. |
at this age, Iggy cant be playing 20-22mins per game.
He should start playing after all star game to get him in shape for the post season run.
let kuzma play all the mins at 3/4 in the meantime |
yeah, Iggy went 70% last year during the season, and was gassed late in the playoffs |
Iggy played 30 mpg in 21 playoff games. That was too much. He's played 23 to 27 mpg regular season for the past five years. |
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| adkindo wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | PRLakeShow wrote: | | mirak wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | At AD's press conference, he made it clear that he doesn't want to play the 5. The Lakers even went as far to sign two free agent centers in DMC and McGee to fill the 5 spot and thus satisfy AD. Where does this leave Kuzma? Kuz is more of a defensive liability at the 3 than he is at the 4. Is he just going to simply be AD and Lebron's back up? Sounds like he is going to get a llot of minutes at the 3, especially with Lebron being on load management. Im not sure Kuzma is the best long term piece to put next to AD. Lakers also need to be concerned that Kuzma will not be happy coming off the bench. Sure he has a great attitude, but he also has the confidence to not only want to be a starter, but he might feel that he should be a first option on the team, so idk how this is going to work for us, long term. |
Kuzma, unfortunately, is bait. He's the final young piece with trade value. We're gonna see what he's made of this year. |
I can see him getting traded by the TD for let's say Bradley Beal. Tough to pull off without picks to trade but I'm sure we'll be looking around the League for stars Kuz can net us. |
I agree. We might have some salary matching issues though. Maybe we could put together a package of lets say. KCP, Kuzma, Rondo and Dudley for Beal? Is that enough salary going out? Plus, does KCP have a no trade clause again? I know he has a kicker. |
I just do not see the logic....Kuzma would have to be a clear All Star before the Wizards have any reason to consider that package.....and if that is the case, why would we want to do the deal? Beal will likely get moved for young assets and draft assets. |
That’s because there is no logic- there’s no way the Wiz are trading Beal for Kuz and a poo poo platter. They won’t trade him at all if he signs his extension, but if they do trade him, they’ll get a huge haul back. |
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Not gonna lie, Giannis is my favorite non Lakers player. Him joining AD in 2021...good lord.  (But I don't know if I want to go through another Kawhi level FA troll job).
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Not gonna lie, Giannis is my favorite non Lakers player. Him joining AD in 2021...good lord. (But I don't know if I want to go through another Kawhi level FA troll job). |
I see Giannis staying in Milwaukee the rest of his career, or at least, another 4-5 years. |
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