OFFICIAL 2018-2019 FREE AGENCY/TRADE THREAD (Available 2019 FAs & LAL Cap Space, p.1)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:33 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
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Bard/capologist, how much cap Lakers will have remaining for summer if they do this trade:

Ad for bi/kuz/Wagner/kcp/2019 pick/Zubac and keep lonzo


Assuming you replace Zubac with Svi:

Lebron = 37
AD = 27
Lonzo = 9
Hart = 2
Deng = 5

That will put us at 80 which will give us about 29 million free. Need 32 for a max.


7 cap holders @900k = 6.3m so we will have around 22.7m

will tobias harris take 22.7m?

AD
T Harris
Lebron
Hart
Zo


Do the Clippers let him walk at that price?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:33 pm    Post subject:

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Anyone else hearing the rumors about a possibility of John Wall trade?


BS internet rumor with a 1% chance of happening


Trevor Lane made a podcast on Lakersnation and he speculated that this sort of trade may be a kind of last-ditch desperation move that happens if they strike out in FA and are forced to trade and absorb some salary for some "win now" pieces.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
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Anyone else hearing the rumors about a possibility of John Wall trade?


BS internet rumor with a 1% chance of happening


Trevor Lane made a podcast on Lakersnation and he speculated that this sort of trade may be a kind of last-ditch desperation move that happens if they strike out in FA and are forced to trade and absorb some salary for some "win now" pieces.


John Wall can't shoot and doesn't play defense. He's not a win now option for a team that's on a winning path due to high defensive rating since November 1. Not to mention his cancerous contract. Rather than going for names that are one dimensional players, Lakers should be looking to get quality two way players if not KL, KD type superstars in FA. I'd rather max out Harris than have Wall who's a ball hog playmaker which we don't need with Lebron. He can score on high usage, but Lou Williams does that more efficiently with a fraction of his supermax contract.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:45 pm    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
KBandKB wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
Bard/capologist, how much cap Lakers will have remaining for summer if they do this trade:

Ad for bi/kuz/Wagner/kcp/2019 pick/Zubac and keep lonzo


Assuming you replace Zubac with Svi:

Lebron = 37
AD = 27
Lonzo = 9
Hart = 2
Deng = 5

That will put us at 80 which will give us about 29 million free. Need 32 for a max.


7 cap holders @900k = 6.3m so we will have around 22.7m

will tobias harris take 22.7m?

AD
T Harris
Lebron
Hart
Zo


Do the Clippers let him walk at that price?


He is ufa so clippers have no say in it. It's his choice
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:46 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
YSong wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
Anyone else hearing the rumors about a possibility of John Wall trade?


BS internet rumor with a 1% chance of happening


Trevor Lane made a podcast on Lakersnation and he speculated that this sort of trade may be a kind of last-ditch desperation move that happens if they strike out in FA and are forced to trade and absorb some salary for some "win now" pieces.


Lol
The guy had 170/4yrs left on his contract
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:56 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
KBandKB wrote:
Jesusdelonla wrote:
Bard/capologist, how much cap Lakers will have remaining for summer if they do this trade:

Ad for bi/kuz/Wagner/kcp/2019 pick/Zubac and keep lonzo


Assuming you replace Zubac with Svi:

Lebron = 37
AD = 27
Lonzo = 9
Hart = 2
Deng = 5

That will put us at 80 which will give us about 29 million free. Need 32 for a max.


7 cap holders @900k = 6.3m so we will have around 22.7m

will tobias harris take 22.7m?

AD
T Harris
Lebron
Hart
Zo


Do the Clippers let him walk at that price?


He is ufa so clippers have no say in it. It's his choice


They will have the cap space to offer him more than that even if they sign KD.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject:

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Rockets still suck. Who are they going to blame now that they’ve already burned the Melo card.


Terrible defensive team.

Morey is most likely going to do something soon. Can’t get too far behind in the West.


Beal for Eric Gordon, Nene, and Chriss works in the trade machine, and I'd imagine that the Rockets would have to send out at least two 1st round picks to get that done. And the Rockets' 2019 pick may not even be too bad, and perhaps the Wizards are in a position to demand that it be unprotected.

I guess they could tear it down and trade Harden, too.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:00 pm    Post subject:

Tobias is having an all-star season. Here's the list of guys shooting 60 TS% at his volume

KD
LeBron
Giannis
vucevic
Harden
Curry
Towns

He'd be a great signing. Unfortunately, Clips will absolutely resign him unless they get KD and Kawhi.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject:

Jazz have destroyed the Rockets & Spurs. Mitchell didn’t even do anything tonight, and Gobert was out 98% of the game.

Harden was -27
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:02 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
Chad09 wrote:
Rockets still suck. Who are they going to blame now that they’ve already burned the Melo card.


Terrible defensive team.

Morey is most likely going to do something soon. Can’t get too far behind in the West.


Beal for Eric Gordon, Nene, and Chriss works in the trade machine, and I'd imagine that the Rockets would have to send out at least two 1st round picks to get that done. And the Rockets' 2019 pick may not even be too bad, and perhaps the Wizards are in a position to demand that it be unprotected.

I guess they could tear it down and trade Harden, too.


Maybe the Rockets would be willing to trade Harden to the Lakers for KCP and Ingram
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject:

Guys, did we get him yet?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:09 pm    Post subject:

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Guys, did we get him yet?


Hes on the Christmas list. Waiting for Santa and the Pels to deliver.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:09 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
Chad09 wrote:
Rockets still suck. Who are they going to blame now that they’ve already burned the Melo card.


Terrible defensive team.

Morey is most likely going to do something soon. Can’t get too far behind in the West.


Beal for Eric Gordon, Nene, and Chriss works in the trade machine, and I'd imagine that the Rockets would have to send out at least two 1st round picks to get that done. And the Rockets' 2019 pick may not even be too bad, and perhaps the Wizards are in a position to demand that it be unprotected.

I guess they could tear it down and trade Harden, too.


Maybe the Rockets would be willing to trade Harden to the Lakers for KCP and Ingram


Ha, Harden makes $35.65MM, so keep adding players!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:09 pm    Post subject:

Don’t be shocked if the Rockets field trade offers for 1 of there major pieces to get back some depth... I can see Chris Paul being available in trade talks, Harden probably stays put... I never understood why they never aggressively went after Butler unless Minny told them that they were only gonna send Jimmy to the East.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:10 pm    Post subject:

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epak wrote:
Guys, did we get him yet?


Hes on the Christmas list. Waiting for Santa and the Pels to deliver.


Ah good.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:11 pm    Post subject:

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Tobias is having an all-star season. Here's the list of guys shooting 60 TS% at his volume

KD
LeBron
Giannis
vucevic
Harden
Curry
Towns

He'd be a great signing. Unfortunately, Clips will absolutely resign him unless they get KD and Kawhi.


Again he is unrestricted free agent, it's his choice where to sign.

Other then offering a contract however crazy they have no say in what he will decide

I know he is not signing for 23 but the point I m trying to make is clippers have no say


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:14 pm    Post subject:

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Don’t be shocked if the Rockets field trade offers for 1 of there major pieces to get back some depth... I can see Chris Paul being available in trade talks, Harden probably stays put... I never understood why they never aggressively went after Butler unless Minny told them that they were only gonna send Jimmy to the East.


They offered 4 picks for Butler. What else they have to offer?

Covington and saric is at least 20 times better then those garbage picks

Good luck finding a suitor for old hog Chris paul
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:18 pm    Post subject:

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Beal for Eric Gordon, Nene, and Chriss works in the trade machine, and I'd imagine that the Rockets would have to send out at least two 1st round picks to get that done. And the Rockets' 2019 pick may not even be too bad, and perhaps the Wizards are in a position to demand that it be unprotected.

I guess they could tear it down and trade Harden, too.


Wizards are back in the playoff picture. I don't see them trading Beal or anyone right now.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:22 pm    Post subject:

Jesusdelonla wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Don’t be shocked if the Rockets field trade offers for 1 of there major pieces to get back some depth... I can see Chris Paul being available in trade talks, Harden probably stays put... I never understood why they never aggressively went after Butler unless Minny told them that they were only gonna send Jimmy to the East.


They offered 4 picks for Butler. What else they have to offer?

Covington and saric is at least 20 times better then those garbage picks

Good luck finding a suitor for old hog Chris paul


Those 4 picks can’t be the only reason why they choose the Sixers package over the Rockets package, maybe the Rockets were offering guys like Tucker and some crappy fillers.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:23 pm    Post subject:

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Beal for Eric Gordon, Nene, and Chriss works in the trade machine, and I'd imagine that the Rockets would have to send out at least two 1st round picks to get that done. And the Rockets' 2019 pick may not even be too bad, and perhaps the Wizards are in a position to demand that it be unprotected.

I guess they could tear it down and trade Harden, too.


Wizards are back in the playoff picture. I don't see them trading Beal or anyone right now.


Perhaps, but they are still in 9th with a really expensive roster that is only going to get more expensive once Wall's extension kicks in next season. Unless they look like they could make some noise in the playoffs, I could see their owner opting to save some money over the next couple of years and get some young players/draft picks back.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:25 pm    Post subject:

This is why young, athletic defenders are crucial to this team.

https://twitter.com/UnwrittenRul3s/status/1070853849106198529?s=19
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:26 pm    Post subject:

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Beal for Eric Gordon, Nene, and Chriss works in the trade machine, and I'd imagine that the Rockets would have to send out at least two 1st round picks to get that done. And the Rockets' 2019 pick may not even be too bad, and perhaps the Wizards are in a position to demand that it be unprotected.

I guess they could tear it down and trade Harden, too.


Wizards are back in the playoff picture. I don't see them trading Beal or anyone right now.


I’m assuming that there not content beating teams like ATL/Brooklyn/Knick’s as a sign that there players should stay put, this team was supposed to be one of the factors in the EC, you think beating those teams is all of a sudden gonna make them think about standing pat?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:29 pm    Post subject:

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ChickenStu wrote:


Beal for Eric Gordon, Nene, and Chriss works in the trade machine, and I'd imagine that the Rockets would have to send out at least two 1st round picks to get that done. And the Rockets' 2019 pick may not even be too bad, and perhaps the Wizards are in a position to demand that it be unprotected.

I guess they could tear it down and trade Harden, too.


Wizards are back in the playoff picture. I don't see them trading Beal or anyone right now.


I’m assuming that there not content beating teams like ATL/Brooklyn/Knick’s as a sign that there players should stay put, this team was supposed to be one of the factors in the EC, you think beating those teams is all of a sudden gonna make them think about standing pat?


Trading Beal without a non top 10 pick would be stupid. Pretty sure they are more keen to offload Wall's contract. He showed up overweight to the training camp as well. And he's a drama queen in the dressing room.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:38 pm    Post subject:

Wouldn’t mind Khris Middleton if Lakers don’t get KD or Klay or Kawhi

Then try to convince a vet like Taj Gibson, Markeif Morris, Pat Beverly, or Danny Green to join the team for $4-6mm
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:43 pm    Post subject:

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Wouldn’t mind Khris Middleton if Lakers don’t get KD or Klay or Kawhi

Then try to convince a vet like Taj Gibson, Markeif Morris, Pat Beverly, or Danny Green to join the team for $4-6mm


KM is a nice fallback, although I think he stays in cheese country.
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