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LKA
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FWIW Garland shot really well in high school as well at least from what I'm looking at from 2017-2018
89%FT and 51% from 3 .. |
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| LKA wrote: | FWIW Garland shot really well in high school as well at least from what I'm looking at from 2017-2018
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I've been looking for his high school stats. Where'd you find them?
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A starting lineup with Ball Hunter Ingram and Lebron could work defensively. Hunter could guard the opposing teams best forward and give lebron a break on defense, and if Ingram is able to stay with 2s and use his length I'm sure Hunter would be able to do the same.
Offensively it might not work if we dont get a stretch 5 since we have no true shooters, we would have Kuzma to come off the bench, find a way to play him with lonzo for a stretch to get Kuz going with easy buckets. This is probably the safest way to go just in case we dont land any top free agents, preferably Kawhi or kyrie
If we do...
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noahp45
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I'm not excited about a prospect that we haft to scrape up HS stats |
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JustaObserver
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Alot of people like Garland but still to me not enough game tape..we have to look at what they done in high school? College is different than high school and NBA is different than College. Heck if we going by Highschool tape then midas well add Bol Bol to the group of people to look at.
Although i wish they had a rule in the NBA that said All injured people that didnt do one full year of Collegiate bball or highschool draftees that skipped college HAD TO DO COMBINE SKRIMMAGES AND GAMES,,,meaning you cant do that Mysterious "Get My measurements but im not going to play one game at the combine"...noooooo GM shouldnt have to Guess can you play by some of your highschool tape alone...If you that darn good ,.....PROVE IT! |
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LakersForever123
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I think we can get Jaylen Hands for a late 2nd pick.
Jaylen Hands' 2nd yr college stats are better that Russell Westbrook.
Oh yeah, Jaylen has a 41.5 vertical leap at the NBA combine. |
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LKA
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I'd take the risk with Garland over Hunter and Culver.
Culver is a big no for me. Last thing this team needs is another garbage shooter. And he isn't a great athlete .. no thanks
As for Hunter he's a safe unattractive pick.
Team needs shooting and in that case might as well take the best shooter available which is Garland |
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| LKA wrote: | I'd take the risk with Garland over Hunter and Culver.
Culver is a big no for me. Last thing this team needs is another garbage shooter. And he isn't a great athlete .. no thanks
As for Hunter he's a safe unattractive pick.
Team needs shooting and in that case might as well take the best shooter available which is Garland |
However we looking at Highschool tape...thats like saying Lonzo College graph says he's a good shooter...thats why i would love if the NBA put in the Rule i mentioned above..you want my money? Prove that you that good. |
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LKA
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | LKA wrote: | I'd take the risk with Garland over Hunter and Culver.
Culver is a big no for me. Last thing this team needs is another garbage shooter. And he isn't a great athlete .. no thanks
As for Hunter he's a safe unattractive pick.
Team needs shooting and in that case might as well take the best shooter available which is Garland |
However we looking at Highschool tape...thats like saying Lonzo College graph says he's a good shooter...thats why i would love if the NBA put in the Rule i mentioned above..you want my money? Prove that you that good. |
I mean he shot 11 of 23 from 3 in college before getting injured ... he clearly can shoot. And he's a great ball handler.. that's not something that suddenly goes away.. |
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| noahp45 wrote: |
I'm not excited about a prospect that we haft to scrape up HS stats |
That's all guys like Kobe and KG had back in the day.  |
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This is why I dont mind Lakers selecting Sekou Doumbaya with the 4th pick...
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Career high 34 points (8/11 2P, 5/7 3P) 9 rebounds in 29 minutes for 18-year old projected lottery pick Sekou Doumbouya in an important win for Limoges tonight. Nice momentum for him going into the French playoffs starting next week.
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| LKA wrote: | I'd take the risk with Garland over Hunter and Culver.
Culver is a big no for me. Last thing this team needs is another garbage shooter. And he isn't a great athlete .. no thanks
As for Hunter he's a safe unattractive pick.
Team needs shooting and in that case might as well take the best shooter available which is Garland |
I'm starting to think this way too. One thing that changed my mind is that I can come up with quite a long list of players like Hunter, that either settled in as a role player or are now out of league. But I can't think of many who turned into top tier players.
Is it the opposite with picks like Garland? |
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Beir32
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| LakersForever123 wrote: | This is why I dont mind Lakers selecting Sekou Doumbaya with the 4th pick...
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Career high 34 points (8/11 2P, 5/7 3P) 9 rebounds in 29 minutes for 18-year old projected lottery pick Sekou Doumbouya in an important win for Limoges tonight. Nice momentum for him going into the French playoffs starting next week.
12:57 PM - 18 May 2019 |
Honest question…what league does he play in and how does it compare to college basketball or other high level leagues? |
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| Beir32 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: | This is why I dont mind Lakers selecting Sekou Doumbaya with the 4th pick...
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Career high 34 points (8/11 2P, 5/7 3P) 9 rebounds in 29 minutes for 18-year old projected lottery pick Sekou Doumbouya in an important win for Limoges tonight. Nice momentum for him going into the French playoffs starting next week.
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Honest question…what league does he play in and how does it compare to college basketball or other high level leagues? |
he's not playing in an elite Euro league/division. not great. and he hasn't been above average this year there anyway |
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While it helps to have substantial game tape to review a prospect for the draft, as we have seen year after year it is such a variable process the odds of predicting success or failure is at best a 50-50 proposition.
For those questioning the lack of college tape for Garland how would you have reviewed past high school to NBA prospects including Lakers own Kobe Bryant?
When/if high school prospects can again be drafted directly into the NBA does a team not consider them if they are drafting in the lottery?
Talent is talent and whether it is 5 college games or high school games it will show out and some reasonable judgement can be made imo. |
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LakersForever123
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Beir32 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: | This is why I dont mind Lakers selecting Sekou Doumbaya with the 4th pick...
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Career high 34 points (8/11 2P, 5/7 3P) 9 rebounds in 29 minutes for 18-year old projected lottery pick Sekou Doumbouya in an important win for Limoges tonight. Nice momentum for him going into the French playoffs starting next week.
12:57 PM - 18 May 2019 |
Honest question…what league does he play in and how does it compare to college basketball or other high level leagues? |
he's not playing in an elite Euro league/division. not great. and he hasn't been above average this year there anyway |
Not great?? An efficient 34 points in 29 minutes and 5-7 3 pointers? And you are high on THT with his abysmal below average shooting and checking out at the nba combine at 235 pounds for a 6'3 1/2 player? |
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Beir32
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Beir32 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: | This is why I dont mind Lakers selecting Sekou Doumbaya with the 4th pick...
Jonathan Givony [ at ] DraftExpress
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Career high 34 points (8/11 2P, 5/7 3P) 9 rebounds in 29 minutes for 18-year old projected lottery pick Sekou Doumbouya in an important win for Limoges tonight. Nice momentum for him going into the French playoffs starting next week.
12:57 PM - 18 May 2019 |
Honest question…what league does he play in and how does it compare to college basketball or other high level leagues? |
he's not playing in an elite Euro league/division. not great. and he hasn't been above average this year there anyway |
Gotcha. Thanks. |
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I think I want Garland now. A Lillard or CJ type next to Lonzo would be pretty dynamic and we have a place to go to get a bucket outside of Lebron. I am good with him and Reddish equally
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| Beir32 wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: |
I'm not excited about a prospect that we haft to scrape up HS stats |
That's all guys like Kobe and KG had back in the day. |
Kobe had to go one-on-one vs. Michael Cooper in a private, pre-draft workout. 17 year old kid vs. 40-year old man. Kobe kicked his ass and West started looking for a trade partner.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | Beir32 wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: |
I'm not excited about a prospect that we haft to scrape up HS stats |
That's all guys like Kobe and KG had back in the day. |
Kobe had to go one-on-one vs. Michael Cooper in a private, pre-draft workout. 17 year old kid vs. 40-year old man. Kobe kicked his ass and West started looking for a trade partner. |
Should be pretty easy for a 17nyear old that plays everyday and has. Even probably for the lat 10 years to beat a retired 40 year old who probably hasn't really played for 4 or 5 years. Lol
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | Beir32 wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: |
I'm not excited about a prospect that we haft to scrape up HS stats |
That's all guys like Kobe and KG had back in the day. |
Kobe had to go one-on-one vs. Michael Cooper in a private, pre-draft workout. 17 year old kid vs. 40-year old man. Kobe kicked his ass and West started looking for a trade partner. |
Let's have Garland come in and see how he does with Zo defending him lol.
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| LBJ23 wrote: | | I think I want Garland now. A Lillard or CJ type next to Lonzo would be pretty dynamic and we have a place to go to get a bucket outside of Lebron. I am good with him and Reddish equally |
I think at their near ceiling outcome, they are the best 2 options. I think Garland has a little higher chance of getting near his ceiling than Reddish, so I have Garland then Reddish. This is assuming RJ Barett is off the board. |
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| LandsbergerRules wrote: |
Let's have Garland come in and see how he does with Zo defending him lol. |
I pretty much know that Garland would struggle with the length in a 1 on 1 situation....and Garland is not an explosive elite athlete that could blow by Ball. Garland becomes special because while he is a decent athlete, he is extremely crafty in getting his shot off and can also distribute off the dribble which likely makes him much more effective with other guys on the court. |
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| LBJ23 wrote: | | I think I want Garland now. A Lillard or CJ type next to Lonzo would be pretty dynamic and we have a place to go to get a bucket outside of Lebron. I am good with him and Reddish equally |
If we somehow know we have Kawhi coming as a FA, getting Garland who looks similar to Kyrie Irving would be awesome along with Ball who looks similar to Jason Kidd. LBJ, KL, young Kyrie and young Kidd then trade the rest for AD. Then I woke up from my dream. Lol |
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