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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:06 am    Post subject:

panamaniac wrote:
I'd go with Garland right now. But Reddish is damn close.


I like the “idea” of both players.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:13 am    Post subject:

Freshman year TS% / USG%

Shabazz: 53.2% / 20.4
Burke: 53.8% / 26.4
Trae: 55.5% / 37.1
Lillard: 56.9% / 22.8
Steph: 61.7% / ??
Garland: 65.7% / 27.9
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:30 am    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
Freshman year TS% / USG%

Shabazz: 53.2% / 20.4
Burke: 53.8% / 26.4
Trae: 55.5% / 37.1
Lillard: 56.9% / 22.8
Steph: 61.7% / ??
Garland: 65.7% / 27.9

Not saying garland isn’t gonna be good pro but that’s only 5 games
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:02 am    Post subject:

Reddish growing on me a lot .
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:31 am    Post subject:

Garland is too small

Just trade the pick
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:50 am    Post subject:

PayasoLoco wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
Freshman year TS% / USG%

Shabazz: 53.2% / 20.4
Burke: 53.8% / 26.4
Trae: 55.5% / 37.1
Lillard: 56.9% / 22.8
Steph: 61.7% / ??
Garland: 65.7% / 27.9

Not saying garland isn’t gonna be good pro but that’s only 5 games
Did he play against any quality teams during those 5 games?
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:52 am    Post subject:

Hydro21 wrote:
Reddish growing on me a lot .



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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:01 am    Post subject:

RUMOR: Darius Garland could be drafted by Lakers or Cavs in trade possibility

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The Cleveland Cavaliers were one of many teams that left the NBA Draft Lottery feeling somewhat disappointed. The Cavs initially shared the best odds of landing the top overall pick, but instead fell to the no. 5 position.

Whereas Cleveland had hoped for the chance to draft one of Zion Williamson, Ja Morant or R.J. Barrett, they are likely to miss out on all three unless they get aggressive and move up from their current spot.

But while the Cavs are reportedly showing strong interest in Barrett, they might also be players for Vanderbilt point guard Darius Garland, who continues to move up in projected mock drafts.

NBA.com writer Sam Smith wrote about the potential for Garland to go as high as pick four or to Cleveland at no. 5, due in part to the lack of quality point guard depth in this draft:

The early consensus among several NBA executives interviewed this week was the obvious top three of Williamson, Morant and Barrett. Vanderbilt point guard Darius Garland has been moving up the boards. He left the camp early amidst the belief he received a promise to be selected high. The speculation was Phoenix at No. 6 since the Suns are desperate for a point guard. But some speculated Garland could go at No. 4 to the Lakers or No. 5 to Cleveland in a trade possibility because of the lack of point guards in this draft.




https://clutchpoints.com/nba-draft-rumors-darius-garland-could-be-drafted-by-lakers-or-cavs-in-trade-possibility/
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:09 am    Post subject:

Why did cam reddish shoot so poorly during the season. Wasnt he known for his shooting ability coming in? That is scary.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:23 am    Post subject:

E_Wulf420 wrote:
PayasoLoco wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
Freshman year TS% / USG%

Shabazz: 53.2% / 20.4
Burke: 53.8% / 26.4
Trae: 55.5% / 37.1
Lillard: 56.9% / 22.8
Steph: 61.7% / ??
Garland: 65.7% / 27.9

Not saying garland isn’t gonna be good pro but that’s only 5 games
Did he play against any quality teams during those 5 games?


No. USC and then 4 mid-majors. His shooting numbers need to be looked at with a massive grain of salt.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:24 am    Post subject:

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Reddish growing on me a lot .




Cam is a very intriguing prospect that I like too. He has a smooth all-around game. He has good handles and can shoot the three ball. Averages almost 2 steals per with a 7'0.5 wingspan.

IMO Cam has a lot to offer; if he puts in the work he could have a long NBA career.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:28 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
E_Wulf420 wrote:
PayasoLoco wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
Freshman year TS% / USG%

Shabazz: 53.2% / 20.4
Burke: 53.8% / 26.4
Trae: 55.5% / 37.1
Lillard: 56.9% / 22.8
Steph: 61.7% / ??
Garland: 65.7% / 27.9

Not saying garland isn’t gonna be good pro but that’s only 5 games
Did he play against any quality teams during those 5 games?


No. USC and then 4 mid-majors. His shooting numbers need to be looked at with a massive grain of salt.


In his last year of high school, he shot 51.7% from the 3 and 89.7% from the free throw line.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:36 am    Post subject:

markjay wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
E_Wulf420 wrote:
PayasoLoco wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
Freshman year TS% / USG%

Shabazz: 53.2% / 20.4
Burke: 53.8% / 26.4
Trae: 55.5% / 37.1
Lillard: 56.9% / 22.8
Steph: 61.7% / ??
Garland: 65.7% / 27.9

Not saying garland isn’t gonna be good pro but that’s only 5 games
Did he play against any quality teams during those 5 games?


No. USC and then 4 mid-majors. His shooting numbers need to be looked at with a massive grain of salt.


In his last year of high school, he shot 51.7% from the 3 and 89.7% from the free throw line.


Lonzo shot 44 and 80 according to max preps and wasn’t a top prospect based on his shooting like Garland. I don’t care much about HS.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:43 am    Post subject:

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Why did cam reddish shoot so poorly during the season. Wasnt he known for his shooting ability coming in? That is scary.

He's not very good and is coasting on his HS rep.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 6:23 am    Post subject:

"Cam didn't get to show what he can do playing with Zion and RJ. With the right development, he could be a star."

*Gets drafted by a team with Lebron, Ingram, Kuzma, and possibly a big FA and basically shrugged through DLO/Randle and still has little idea what it has with Zo/Ingram*

"Ah, the perfect spot for him. Now we'll see what he can do."
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:02 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
RUMOR: Darius Garland could be drafted by Lakers or Cavs in trade possibility

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The Cleveland Cavaliers were one of many teams that left the NBA Draft Lottery feeling somewhat disappointed. The Cavs initially shared the best odds of landing the top overall pick, but instead fell to the no. 5 position.

Whereas Cleveland had hoped for the chance to draft one of Zion Williamson, Ja Morant or R.J. Barrett, they are likely to miss out on all three unless they get aggressive and move up from their current spot.

But while the Cavs are reportedly showing strong interest in Barrett, they might also be players for Vanderbilt point guard Darius Garland, who continues to move up in projected mock drafts.

NBA.com writer Sam Smith wrote about the potential for Garland to go as high as pick four or to Cleveland at no. 5, due in part to the lack of quality point guard depth in this draft:

The early consensus among several NBA executives interviewed this week was the obvious top three of Williamson, Morant and Barrett. Vanderbilt point guard Darius Garland has been moving up the boards. He left the camp early amidst the belief he received a promise to be selected high. The speculation was Phoenix at No. 6 since the Suns are desperate for a point guard. But some speculated Garland could go at No. 4 to the Lakers or No. 5 to Cleveland in a trade possibility because of the lack of point guards in this draft.




https://clutchpoints.com/nba-draft-rumors-darius-garland-could-be-drafted-by-lakers-or-cavs-in-trade-possibility/



This is the kind of article we ABSOLUTELY need as we want to create a bidding war for the number 4 pick between Cleveland and Phoenix with both of them knowing we would take Garland if they dont offer a lot. This is a great article👍👍👍👍
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:16 am    Post subject:

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I'd take the risk with Garland over Hunter and Culver.

Culver is a big no for me. Last thing this team needs is another garbage shooter. And he isn't a great athlete .. no thanks

As for Hunter he's a safe unattractive pick.
Team needs shooting and in that case might as well take the best shooter available which is Garland


However we looking at Highschool tape...thats like saying Lonzo College graph says he's a good shooter...thats why i would love if the NBA put in the Rule i mentioned above..you want my money? Prove that you that good.


I mean he shot 11 of 23 from 3 in college before getting injured ... he clearly can shoot. And he's a great ball handler.. that's not something that suddenly goes away..


Ehh, Ask Josh Hart, even better, ask Anthony Brown.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:16 am    Post subject:

Our current point guard averages 48 games a season and shoots 44% from the FT line and you want to trade a point guard almost everyone wants without securing either Kyrie or Kemba?

I like Lonzo, but we need to find him a partner who can create and shoot.

We need this skill set to complement his defense and rebounding.

Quit trying to trade him.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:17 am    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
"Cam didn't get to show what he can do playing with Zion and RJ. With the right development, he could be a star."

*Gets drafted by a team with Lebron, Ingram, Kuzma, and possibly a big FA and basically shrugged through DLO/Randle and still has little idea what it has with Zo/Ingram*

"Ah, the perfect spot for him. Now we'll see what he can do."


All I have seen you do is complain about Reddish without any opinion of the draft. This is a draft thread, people can have their opinions. You can take your complaining to the other threads you complain in.

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:22 am    Post subject:

lakerican wrote:
LKA wrote:
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LKA wrote:
I'd take the risk with Garland over Hunter and Culver.

Culver is a big no for me. Last thing this team needs is another garbage shooter. And he isn't a great athlete .. no thanks

As for Hunter he's a safe unattractive pick.
Team needs shooting and in that case might as well take the best shooter available which is Garland


However we looking at Highschool tape...thats like saying Lonzo College graph says he's a good shooter...thats why i would love if the NBA put in the Rule i mentioned above..you want my money? Prove that you that good.


I mean he shot 11 of 23 from 3 in college before getting injured ... he clearly can shoot. And he's a great ball handler.. that's not something that suddenly goes away..


Ehh, Ask Josh Hart, even better, ask Anthony Brown.


You know how everyone says the draft will be stacked as soon as they get rid of the one and done rule again?

Why is this? Because we will be able to draft kids out of high school again.

So you won't draft the next LBJ or Kobe because they didn't play a year in college?

There is risk, but the bold have historically been rewarded.

Yes it could blow up in our faces... but look at the kid. Watch his clips... he looks like a good player.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:53 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
datniggbstyle wrote:
Why did cam reddish shoot so poorly during the season. Wasnt he known for his shooting ability coming in? That is scary.

He's not very good and is coasting on his HS rep.


Can't hit a contested jump shot.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:12 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
markjay wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
E_Wulf420 wrote:
PayasoLoco wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
Freshman year TS% / USG%

Shabazz: 53.2% / 20.4
Burke: 53.8% / 26.4
Trae: 55.5% / 37.1
Lillard: 56.9% / 22.8
Steph: 61.7% / ??
Garland: 65.7% / 27.9

Not saying garland isn’t gonna be good pro but that’s only 5 games
Did he play against any quality teams during those 5 games?


No. USC and then 4 mid-majors. His shooting numbers need to be looked at with a massive grain of salt.


In his last year of high school, he shot 51.7% from the 3 and 89.7% from the free throw line.


Lonzo shot 44 and 80 according to max preps and wasn’t a top prospect based on his shooting like Garland. I don’t care much about HS.


I would guess that usually there is a high correlation between free throw shooting in high schools and the pros. Lonzo is probably an extreme oultlier.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:21 am    Post subject:

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Funny how the narrative among the national media is that this is a 3 player draft.

I’m sure if the Lakers got #3, the narrative would be that this is a Zion/Morant draft.

Tough decision with the pick if they keep it. Garland, Reddish and Hunter seem like solid choices. Culver’s shooting is worrisome. I think Garland > White, but I do like Coby White.

It's a one man draft, anyway.


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:43 am    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
Funny how the narrative among the national media is that this is a 3 player draft.

I’m sure if the Lakers got #3, the narrative would be that this is a Zion/Morant draft.

Tough decision with the pick if they keep it. Garland, Reddish and Hunter seem like solid choices. Culver’s shooting is worrisome. I think Garland > White, but I do like Coby White.


Wasn't it a 3 man draft all year?
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:46 am    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
Our current point guard averages 48 games a season and shoots 44% from the FT line and you want to trade a point guard almost everyone wants without securing either Kyrie or Kemba?

I like Lonzo, but we need to find him a partner who can create and shoot.

We need this skill set to complement his defense and rebounding.

Quit trying to trade him.


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