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ChickenStu
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| Laker7 wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | So what I gathered from the past few pages is that we all are on board with Reddish? |
Not only no but hell no, (bleep) no, (bleep) no and ain't to way no! |
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Hero Ball
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr.
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Hero Ball
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Bucks also 7th among 16 playoff teams in 3pt% this post season.
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epak
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
I agree it's not all about 3pt%. But a more holistic view:
Top 10 in TS% this year:
1. GSW 59.6%
2. Bucks 58.3%
3. Rox 58.1%
4. Raptors 57.9%
5. Clips 57.5%
6. 76ers 57.4%
7. Jazz 57.2%
8. Spurs 57.2%
9. Blazers 56.8%
10. Celts 56.7%
But again, the goal isn't to be short. It's to be efficient scorers. |
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LakerMindLA
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
Must be watching a different game. The last NBA team to win a championship with a jumbo backcourt was Detroit in 04 with Billups and Hamilton and even that team played with an undersized C.
Almost every championship team in the last 15 years started a PG between 6'1 and 6'3".
If anything, the modern NBA is moving away from size and length. You're seeing teams go small more than ever. |
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Jack's Room
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
Shooting isn't limited to the three-point line. Total Shooting % is the most encompassing shooting stat for individuals or teams. The Buckers were #2 in TS% behind one other team. Guess who? |
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The Juggernaut
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
I agree it's not all about 3pt%. But a more holistic view:
Top 10 in TS% this year:
1. GSW 59.6%
2. Bucks 58.3%
3. Rox 58.1%
4. Raptors 57.9%
5. Clips 57.5%
6. 76ers 57.4%
7. Jazz 57.2%
8. Spurs 57.2%
9. Blazers 56.8%
10. Celts 56.7%
But again, the goal isn't to be short. It's to be efficient scorers. |
Yup |
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
I agree it's not all about 3pt%. But a more holistic view:
Top 10 in TS% this year:
1. GSW 59.6%
2. Bucks 58.3%
3. Rox 58.1%
4. Raptors 57.9%
5. Clips 57.5%
6. 76ers 57.4%
7. Jazz 57.2%
8. Spurs 57.2%
9. Blazers 56.8%
10. Celts 56.7%
But again, the goal isn't to be short. It's to be efficient scorers. |
We can survive not being that efficient as seen from the Bucks model.
They top in rebounding something Lakers were top 10 at, last year and this year. 2nd and 6th respectively.
Efficiency is a biatch.
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
Shooting isn't limited to the three-point line. Total Shooting % is the most encompassing shooting stat for individuals or teams. The Buckers were #2 in TS% behind one other team. Guess who? |
So guess where the Bucks excel at if they are middle of the pack in 3pt%.
Freak, Bledsoe, George Hill and Brogdon dribble penetrations.
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Jack's Room
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
Shooting isn't limited to the three-point line. Total Shooting % is the most encompassing shooting stat for individuals or teams. The Buckers were #2 in TS% behind one other team. Guess who? |
So guess where the Bucks excel at if they are middle of the pack in 3pt%.
Freak, Bledsoe, George Hill and Brogdon dribble penetrations. |
And guess why they had room to dribble penetrate? Because they space the floor with three-point shooting: Brook, Middleton, Brogdon, Mirotic, and Ersan help create driving lanes by drawing defenders outward. Coach Bud's offense helped give the Bucks driving opportunities that Kidd didn't. |
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
Shooting isn't limited to the three-point line. Total Shooting % is the most encompassing shooting stat for individuals or teams. The Buckers were #2 in TS% behind one other team. Guess who? |
So guess where the Bucks excel at if they are middle of the pack in 3pt%.
Freak, Bledsoe, George Hill and Brogdon dribble penetrations. |
And guess why they had room to dribble penetrate? Because they space the floor with three-point shooting: Brook, Middleton, Brogdon, Mirotic, and Ersan help create driving lanes by drawing defenders outward. Coach Bud's offense helped give the Bucks driving opportunities that Kidd didn't. |
Teams would rather let them shoot the 3 don't you get it? They are not that good at it.
Teams pack the middle to stop the Freak from dunking, he kicks out they miss, Freak gets the rebound then dunks it.
Size is a weapon.
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Jack's Room
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
Shooting isn't limited to the three-point line. Total Shooting % is the most encompassing shooting stat for individuals or teams. The Buckers were #2 in TS% behind one other team. Guess who? |
So guess where the Bucks excel at if they are middle of the pack in 3pt%.
Freak, Bledsoe, George Hill and Brogdon dribble penetrations. |
And guess why they had room to dribble penetrate? Because they space the floor with three-point shooting: Brook, Middleton, Brogdon, Mirotic, and Ersan help create driving lanes by drawing defenders outward. Coach Bud's offense helped give the Bucks driving opportunities that Kidd didn't. |
Teams would rather let them shoot the 3 don't you get it? They are not that good at it.
Teams pack the middle to stop the Freak from dunking, he kicks out they miss, Freak gets the rebound then dunks it.
Size is a weapon. |
Where did I argue that size doesn't matter? I'm pointing out that TS% is a better indicator of a team's shooting ability (it is). I'm pointing out that Bud's spacing and increased three-point attempts made it easier for players to drive and kick (it did).
Bud has maximized Giannis' inherent gifts in ways that Kidd didn't. That's why the Bucks finished 1st in PPG, 2nd in TS%, 2nd in pace, and 4th offensive rating with home court advantage in the ECF.
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Hero Ball
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You all fell in love with DLo.
He brought Brooklyn to the playoffs with his shooting, then what happened when his efficiency went down?
The team went down with it.
Garland is not better than Dlo or is he?
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
I said shooting and not 3pt shooting |
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epak
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Yep.
So whichever you get buckets, try to get it efficiently.
It's not about trying to be short for the sake of being short. |
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
Shooting isn't limited to the three-point line. Total Shooting % is the most encompassing shooting stat for individuals or teams. The Buckers were #2 in TS% behind one other team. Guess who? |
So guess where the Bucks excel at if they are middle of the pack in 3pt%.
Freak, Bledsoe, George Hill and Brogdon dribble penetrations. |
And guess why they had room to dribble penetrate? Because they space the floor with three-point shooting: Brook, Middleton, Brogdon, Mirotic, and Ersan help create driving lanes by drawing defenders outward. Coach Bud's offense helped give the Bucks driving opportunities that Kidd didn't. |
Teams would rather let them shoot the 3 don't you get it? They are not that good at it.
Teams pack the middle to stop the Freak from dunking, he kicks out they miss, Freak gets the rebound then dunks it.
Size is a weapon. |
Where did I argue that size doesn't matter? I'm pointing out that TS% is a better indicator of a team's shooting ability (it is). I'm pointing out that Bud's spacing and increased three-point attempts made it easier for players to drive and kick (it did).
Bud has maximized Giannis' inherent gifts in ways that Kidd didn't. That's why the Bucks finished 1st in PPG, 2nd in TS%, 2nd in pace, and 4th offensive rating with home court advantage in the ECF. |
Sorry I thought you knew the context. See it from my first post.
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Jack's Room
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jack's Room wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
Shooting isn't limited to the three-point line. Total Shooting % is the most encompassing shooting stat for individuals or teams. The Buckers were #2 in TS% behind one other team. Guess who? |
So guess where the Bucks excel at if they are middle of the pack in 3pt%.
Freak, Bledsoe, George Hill and Brogdon dribble penetrations. |
And guess why they had room to dribble penetrate? Because they space the floor with three-point shooting: Brook, Middleton, Brogdon, Mirotic, and Ersan help create driving lanes by drawing defenders outward. Coach Bud's offense helped give the Bucks driving opportunities that Kidd didn't. |
Teams would rather let them shoot the 3 don't you get it? They are not that good at it.
Teams pack the middle to stop the Freak from dunking, he kicks out they miss, Freak gets the rebound then dunks it.
Size is a weapon. |
Where did I argue that size doesn't matter? I'm pointing out that TS% is a better indicator of a team's shooting ability (it is). I'm pointing out that Bud's spacing and increased three-point attempts made it easier for players to drive and kick (it did).
Bud has maximized Giannis' inherent gifts in ways that Kidd didn't. That's why the Bucks finished 1st in PPG, 2nd in TS%, 2nd in pace, and 4th offensive rating with home court advantage in the ECF. |
Sorry I thought you knew the context. See it from my first post. |
I was responding to your post about Milwaukee being 14th in 3PT shooting. My response is that 3PT% shooting isn't the end-all be all. TS% is a much better indicator and Milwaukee ranks 2nd in that category. It helps to explain why they are so formidable on offense despite shooting league average from behind the arc. |
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Milwaukee was 14th overall in 3pt proficiency this yr. |
I said shooting and not 3pt shooting |
So you should love Hunter...52% FG and 43.8% 3pt% season while winning the NCAA title
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| Hero Ball wrote: | You all fell in love with DLo.
He brought Brooklyn to the playoffs with his shooting, then what happened when his efficiency went down?
The team went down with it.
Garland is not better than Dlo or is he? |
MUCH better. |
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LakerSD
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | Sorry to break all your hearts.
Lakers like their guards big. |
Maybe that can die with showtime in an effort to adapt to the modern NBA game where “short” combo guards are straight up shooting assassins.
We will fast break lay up teams to death and brick 75% of our 3s does not seem to be an effective strategy in 2019. |
the modern NBA is about size, length and shooting. |
It's about shooting 1st |
Exactly, which is what Garland is good at and the Lakers really suck at. |
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LakerSD
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | https://mobile.twitter.com/Ralph_MasonJr/status/1130993488663703552 |
If he does, Pels will have to be careful navigating their petty AD situation. |
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| The God Particle wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | You all fell in love with DLo.
He brought Brooklyn to the playoffs with his shooting, then what happened when his efficiency went down?
The team went down with it.
Garland is not better than Dlo or is he? |
MUCH better. |
Based on 5 games?
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| LakerSD wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | https://mobile.twitter.com/Ralph_MasonJr/status/1130993488663703552 |
If he does, Pels will have to be careful navigating their petty AD situation. |
How interesting Garland is Klutch |
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