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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:10 am Post subject:
JustaObserver wrote:
The God Particle wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
adkindo wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
Beir32 wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
oww wow we hyping up some guy...who only played in highschool and 5 whole games of college ball against nobody...lol.
If thats the case can we move downward and get #8 and #10 with one being Bol Bol and 1 2nf round getting carson edwards and sign Taco Fall or buy a second pick for him?
So since you believe it's so outlandish, why do you think it is that Garland is a consensus top 6 pick amongst people who get paid to make such decisions?
Yeah and why do you think people like Oden/ Anthoney Bennet/ Kwame Brown/Tuskevilli/Flyn/Evan Turner/Lonzo(he can shoot check his college shot chart pfft lol)/ were high but busts? The same media feed you this junk and people fall for it every time..pffft lmao!
but not you....you see straight through the conspiracy....
soooo if i play super star basket ball at my LOCAL highschool...and then play maybe three games at college really well. and then claim injury and stay out all season...Hey i can declare for NBA and get drafted high? The media hypes me up based on my HIGHSCHOOL "STATS"...heck CAM should have done that lonnnnng time ago....people would be saying "wait till he gets better and comes to the NBA he going to be A STAR!!!"....lol
Wait....you really do think it's a conspiracy, don't you?
WOW
no i think people should reallly get to thinking for themselves instead....it would help you a looooong way.
I agree with you.
Garland in my opinion is a gamble. We haven't seen what he can do long enough against great competition. And he is a small gaurd. Having him in the west where all the top guards are seems like a plan to fail to me.
Have to be careful of the guys with low steal rates coming from that Virginia program. Justin Anderson coming out was considered a great defender and 3 point shooter. He shot 45 percent on 4 3s a game. Hunter shot 43.8 percent on 2.8 3s a game. Anderson has been a bad NBA player and came in the same age as Hunter is. _________________ Previously LBJ23
Have to be careful of the guys with low steal rates coming from that Virginia program. Justin Anderson coming out was considered a great defender and 3 point shooter. He shot 45 percent on 4 3s a game. Hunter shot 43.8 percent on 2.8 3s a game. Anderson has been a bad NBA player and came in the same age as Hunter is.
Have to be careful of the guys with low steal rates coming from that Virginia program. Justin Anderson coming out was considered a great defender and 3 point shooter. He shot 45 percent on 4 3s a game. Hunter shot 43.8 percent on 2.8 3s a game. Anderson has been a bad NBA player and came in the same age as Hunter is.
Brogdan has been a quality pro though
He has, but he was a point guard, handled the ball a lot, got his own shot, and shot 5 3s a game. Hunter can't create and didn't even put up 3 3 pointers a game. Brogdon was also drafted late. _________________ Previously LBJ23
Btw, which one of these guys in the draft is Kawhi and PG to you?
Not to me exclusively.
People see Kawhi in Hunter.
PG in Reddish.
I have no probably with people projecting Hunter becoming Kawhi-lite. Or Reddish becoming PG-lite. If we draft them, that's my hope for them to become those players.
Now, I haven't gotten to see a lot of it, but just from what I've seen, I would say DG is closer to Dame-lite than Hunter and Reddish are closer to Kawhi-lite and PG-lite respectively at this moment in time.
Anyone else see it that way? I'm talking about at this time. Now, as the years go by, that may change.
Btw, which one of these guys in the draft is Kawhi and PG to you?
Not to me exclusively.
People see Kawhi in Hunter.
PG in Reddish.
I have no probably with people projecting Hunter becoming Kawhi-lite. Or Reddish becoming PG-lite. If we draft them, that's my hope for them to become those players.
Now, I haven't gotten to see a lot of it, but just from what I've seen, I would say DG is closer to Dame-lite than Hunter and Reddish are closer to Kawhi-lite and PG-lite respectively at this moment in time.
Anyone else see it that way? I'm talking about at this time. Now, as the years go by, that may change.
Yes, I see the same. _________________ Previously LBJ23
Btw, which one of these guys in the draft is Kawhi and PG to you?
Not to me exclusively.
People see Kawhi in Hunter.
PG in Reddish.
I have no probably with people projecting Hunter becoming Kawhi-lite. Or Reddish becoming PG-lite. If we draft them, that's my hope for them to become those players.
Now, I haven't gotten to see a lot of it, but just from what I've seen, I would say DG is closer to Dame-lite than Hunter and Reddish are closer to Kawhi-lite and PG-lite respectively at this moment in time.
Anyone else see it that way? I'm talking about at this time. Now, as the years go by, that may change.
Yes, I see the same.
Same. Garland looks more sure fire Dame-lite or Kyrie-lite with the potential to be close.
I can’t say that I’m not impressed with how sometimes Hunter looks exactly like Kawhi stylistically. The issue imo is he doesn’t seem to have the same twitch or burst. It’s kind of like when people say Ingram looks like KD. There is nothing wrong with that, we are talking 2 of the top 5 players in the game.
Garland in my opinion is a gamble. We haven't seen what he can do long enough against great competition. And he is a small gaurd. Having him in the west where all the top guards are seems like a plan to fail to me.
Every prospect is a gamble though. When I bring up questions about taking Garland at the #4 pick, it's not because we shouldn't or to suggest that he cant go on to become elite player and deserving of the pick. It's only to say I've not seen enough. It's also to say that we need to have realistic expectations of him since he's just turned 19 and is entering the draft after one year in college only. Steph stayed in college for 3 years. His numbers took a jump in year 3. Yet when he entered the NBA, he still wasn't ready to play at the top level immediately and needed some more years to really take off. Btw, when Garland is 24... Steph will be 36 and on his last legs. When he's 26-27... Garland could be one of those top guards in the West himself.
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Btw, which one of these guys in the draft is Kawhi and PG to you?
Not to me exclusively.
People see Kawhi in Hunter.
PG in Reddish.
I have no probably with people projecting Hunter becoming Kawhi-lite. Or Reddish becoming PG-lite. If we draft them, that's my hope for them to become those players.
Now, I haven't gotten to see a lot of it, but just from what I've seen, I would say DG is closer to Dame-lite than Hunter and Reddish are closer to Kawhi-lite and PG-lite respectively at this moment in time.
Anyone else see it that way? I'm talking about at this time. Now, as the years go by, that may change.
I think Hunter is the closest to his respective comp of the three. I just haven’t seen enough of Garland to confidently say much about him. Great stats, looks good on the highlight reel but he only played a handful of games and none against good competition.
Btw, which one of these guys in the draft is Kawhi and PG to you?
Not to me exclusively.
People see Kawhi in Hunter.
PG in Reddish.
I have no probably with people projecting Hunter becoming Kawhi-lite. Or Reddish becoming PG-lite. If we draft them, that's my hope for them to become those players.
Now, I haven't gotten to see a lot of it, but just from what I've seen, I would say DG is closer to Dame-lite than Hunter and Reddish are closer to Kawhi-lite and PG-lite respectively at this moment in time.
Anyone else see it that way? I'm talking about at this time. Now, as the years go by, that may change.
I think Hunter is the closest to his respective comp of the three. I just haven’t seen enough of Garland to confidently say much about him. Great stats, looks good on the highlight reel but he only played a handful of games and none against good competition.
Hunter isn't close to a KL comp. Doesn't rebound or get steals like KL got in college. He shoots the college 3 better, but KL corrected that. KL had a way bigger tool box coming out. _________________ Previously LBJ23
Btw, which one of these guys in the draft is Kawhi and PG to you?
Not to me exclusively.
People see Kawhi in Hunter.
PG in Reddish.
I have no probably with people projecting Hunter becoming Kawhi-lite. Or Reddish becoming PG-lite. If we draft them, that's my hope for them to become those players.
Now, I haven't gotten to see a lot of it, but just from what I've seen, I would say DG is closer to Dame-lite than Hunter and Reddish are closer to Kawhi-lite and PG-lite respectively at this moment in time.
Anyone else see it that way? I'm talking about at this time. Now, as the years go by, that may change.
I think Hunter is the closest to his respective comp of the three. I just haven’t seen enough of Garland to confidently say much about him. Great stats, looks good on the highlight reel but he only played a handful of games and none against good competition.
Hunter isn't close to a KL comp. Doesn't rebound or get steals like KL got in college. He shoots the college 3 better, but KL corrected that. KL had a way bigger tool box coming out.
I mean, he isn’t KL, I’m not saying he is. Garland isn’t Dame and Reddish isn’t PG. I just think he’s the closest.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:02 am Post subject:
LAL1947 wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Garland in my opinion is a gamble. We haven't seen what he can do long enough against great competition. And he is a small gaurd. Having him in the west where all the top guards are seems like a plan to fail to me.
Every prospect is a gamble though. When I bring up questions about taking Garland at the #4 pick, it's not because we shouldn't or to suggest that he cant go on to become elite player and deserving of the pick. It's only to say I've not seen enough. It's also to say that we need to have realistic expectations of him since he's just turned 19 and is entering the draft after one year in college only. Steph stayed in college for 3 years. His numbers took a jump in year 3. Yet when he entered the NBA, he still wasn't ready to play at the top level immediately and needed some more years to really take off. Btw, when Garland is 24... Steph will be 36 and on his last legs.
Exactly right. All of these players have pros and cons.
I appreciate your opinion because you've been very objective in your analysis.
You listed the pros of Garland, and the cons.
I like Garland with the pick right now, but can admit that there are red flags.
-Very limited sample size
-Coming off a knee injury
-Not a great assist to TO ratio in that limited sample
What gets me is so many posters acting like they know everything.
They know Garland is a bust, or Reddish in the next PG.
The fact is no body knows, and posters coming out saying that they KNOW have zero credibility to me and others.
I like reading what objective and knowledgeable posters like you and Mike have to say, but you both readily admit that no one knows for sure.
I think we need shooters, and I really see that in Garland and Hunter, so they are probably 1-2 for me. Culver also looks solid.
I probably elevate Garland a bit above Hunter because of handles, age and frankly, we are solid with forwards, and lacking good guards. Reddish is also a great prospect, and I would not be upset if we selected him, just have Garland ahead of him in my list because of shooting, handles, position etc. _________________ "Rangers lead the way!"
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