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The Juggernaut
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| GameCock-MD wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | So many people didn't watch Bol Bol actually play.
He'd give up more than he'd score. We already have a guy like that on the roster playing the same position - Kuzma. |
A 7'3 Kuzma with a 7'8 wingspan is a great get for the 4th pick. Except Bol has shown good timing for blocking shots and has better court vision than Kuz
https://www.thestepien.com/bol-bol/ |
And won’t be able to make a shot within 15 feet, and can’t get much separation offf the dribble on the perimeter , and doesn’t do well with contests |
Every player in this draft has multiple weaknesses that can be picked on as well. Bol can improve all of those things. What he has already combined with his size and length are worth gambling on around picks 8-12 in this draft.
| Quote: | 7’3 with a 9’8 standing reach, Bol is an excellent rim protector but what really makes him stand out is his perimeter skill set. He is one of the best shooters in the class at 7’3! There are questions about his mental make up and frame but even if he isn’t a superstar Bol should be a valuable player as long as he stays healthy.
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Health is my only reason for not taking him top 5 |
Health and post defense...and perimeter defense...and health again... |
Nah. Those are easily improvable things especially with increased strength that will naturally come with age and working with NBA trainers.
Health is the only real concern with Bol |
Suuuure...BIGs with foot injuries and freakish measurements (not in a good way) have not had a good track record in the NBA... |
Agreed. Health is the only real concern. Embiid gives me hope though. |
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Mege
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| Based on his Dad's durability and a number of notable players that have recovered from the same foot injury (including Michael Jordan and Marc Gasol), I think Bol's health will be fine. |
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| Quote: | Jordan Schultz
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UCF center Tacko Fall has an upcoming workout for the #Lakers, a source tells ESPN. The 7-6 Fall averaged 11 PPG and 8 RPG, while also ranking in the top 10 nationally with his 2.6 blocks. Fall broke the all-time NCAA FG percentage record as well. |
So last minute of the game. Lakers winning and opponent is at 98 points.
What do the Lakers fans start chanting? |
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epak
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| Mege wrote: | | Based on his Dad's durability and a number of notable players that have recovered from the same foot injury (including Michael Jordan and Marc Gasol), I think Bol's health will be fine. |
Some poster here listed his dad's games played right? |
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The God Particle
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Hey fam.
Was away on business travel..
Who did we draft?! Please tell me it was Darius G. |
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Mini Mamba
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| The God Particle wrote: | Hey fam.
Was away on business travel..
Who did we draft?! Please tell me it was Darius G. |
Draft is in 6 days. |
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Luminous8
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Quote: | Jordan Schultz
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UCF center Tacko Fall has an upcoming workout for the #Lakers, a source tells ESPN. The 7-6 Fall averaged 11 PPG and 8 RPG, while also ranking in the top 10 nationally with his 2.6 blocks. Fall broke the all-time NCAA FG percentage record as well. |
So last minute of the game. Lakers winning and opponent is at 98 points.
What do the Lakers fans start chanting? |
I want him on the Lakers for this sole purpose!! |
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AFireInside619
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| The God Particle wrote: | Hey fam.
Was away on business travel..
Who did we draft?! Please tell me it was Darius G. |
Anthony Davis |
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PICKnPOP
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:43 am Post subject: |
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So have we really only worked out 1 person in the #4 range
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yinoma2001
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Lakers: Oh wait, the draft is next week?
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | So have we really only worked out 1 person in the #4 range |
Ireland said we worked out Garland and someone else other than Culver |
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epak
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | PICKnPOP wrote: | | So have we really only worked out 1 person in the #4 range |
Ireland said we worked out Garland and someone else other than Culver |
Worked out? Or went to his Clutch day event? |
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LakersMD
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| ^ I have the same question. If they had a workout with Garland it would have been posted here. |
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Mike@LG
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| epak wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Is Zions defense really that good? |
Yes. He was a top 10 defender in CBB at worst ; many say top 3-5 |
Interesting.
How would you rank his interior defense?
And how would you rank his perimeter defense? |
Like..
9/10
7/10
He's outstanding.
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | @Mike
“Time Lord” Robert Williams? I’m dead 😵!
Saw your response on twitter. |
Just making some humor out of some ridiculous things I've been reading.
I can't believe someone believed it. 
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The God Particle
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | The God Particle wrote: | Hey fam.
Was away on business travel..
Who did we draft?! Please tell me it was Darius G. |
Anthony Davis |
So long as we don't overpay, and yes, everything rumored at the deadline was a gross overpay.
That godfather offer was a disgrace. I'm glad Magic is gone so as to not make a stupid trade offer like that again....let's just hope Pelinka isn't as stupid as Magic was. |
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epak
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | epak wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Is Zions defense really that good? |
Yes. He was a top 10 defender in CBB at worst ; many say top 3-5 |
Interesting.
How would you rank his interior defense?
And how would you rank his perimeter defense? |
Like..
9/10
7/10
He's outstanding. |
So Golbert on the inside.
And Julius Randle on the perimeter? |
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Mike@LG
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | epak wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Is Zions defense really that good? |
Yes. He was a top 10 defender in CBB at worst ; many say top 3-5 |
Interesting.
How would you rank his interior defense?
And how would you rank his perimeter defense? |
Like..
9/10
7/10
He's outstanding. |
So Golbert on the inside.
And Julius Randle on the perimeter? |
Different. Difficult to be Gobert without those kinds of physical tools.
But, verticality, team rotation, switchability. Challenging shots at the rim is different from outright shot blocks.
He hasn't played yet, but could be a better perimeter than Julius Randle.
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Mike send the Lakers your draft notes. They may have forgotten about Thursday's draft. 
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Mike send the Lakers your draft notes. They may have forgotten about Thursday's draft. |
I'm doing a podcast on Tuesday. They can get my notes there haha.
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Chad09
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| “I think they like @dariusgarland22 at #4 and that’s who they draft if they keep it.” @ramonashelburne of @ESPN |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Damn trade BS messing this thread up and making the draft unexciting |
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PassTheBooze
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| lol it was to be expected. as lebron would probably say - (bleep) them kids |
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satria
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| so i was searching through youtube and watched all the garland and culver tapes from their high school and on, i was super high on garland till he got matched up vs tre jones in 1 aau game. versus a good defender garland got locked up couldnt do anything,, that was the only tape i could find for garland facing a good defender and his meniscus scares me. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | So many people didn't watch Bol Bol actually play.
He'd give up more than he'd score. We already have a guy like that on the roster playing the same position - Kuzma. |
A 7'3 Kuzma with a 7'8 wingspan is a great get for the 4th pick. Except Bol has shown good timing for blocking shots and has better court vision than Kuz
https://www.thestepien.com/bol-bol/ |
And won’t be able to make a shot within 15 feet, and can’t get much separation offf the dribble on the perimeter , and doesn’t do well with contests |
Every player in this draft has multiple weaknesses that can be picked on as well. Bol can improve all of those things. What he has already combined with his size and length are worth gambling on around picks 8-12 in this draft.
| Quote: | 7’3 with a 9’8 standing reach, Bol is an excellent rim protector but what really makes him stand out is his perimeter skill set. He is one of the best shooters in the class at 7’3! There are questions about his mental make up and frame but even if he isn’t a superstar Bol should be a valuable player as long as he stays healthy.
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Health is my only reason for not taking him top 5 |
Health and post defense...and perimeter defense...and health again... |
Nah. Those are easily improvable things especially with increased strength that will naturally come with age and working with NBA trainers.
Health is the only real concern with Bol |
Suuuure...BIGs with foot injuries and freakish measurements (not in a good way) have not had a good track record in the NBA... |
Agreed. Health is the only real concern. Embiid gives me hope though. |
Embiid has a strong frame. Bol? His body is going to get wrecked by big men and he can’t guard anyone on the perimeter. If I have a later first I might gamble. Not with a top 5 pick.
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