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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Garland is the guy if it can't be Zion.
Everything from Bol Bol to KPJ to PJ Washington to NAW to Brandon Clarke to Coby White to Jaxson Hayes... I mean it's all been said before on here.
Cam Reddish being a potential pick surprised me though. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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King Randle Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | Is it possible Garland can fall to us? |
Slim.
Legit debating to trade Kuzma and 11 to get him. |
How about Bol. I’m high on this guy...unlike others |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:55 am Post subject: |
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i forgot where I heard it from but on a podcast it was mentioned that advanced metrics put Zion at just BELOW Anthony Davis as the best recent prospect coming out of college.
then there's legit concerns about him being a bit undersized length-wise at his most natural position _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:08 am Post subject: |
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audioaxes wrote: | i forgot where I heard it from but on a podcast it was mentioned that advanced metrics put Zion at just BELOW Anthony Davis as the best recent prospect coming out of college.
then there's legit concerns about him being a bit undersized length-wise at his most natural position |
I disagree about those concerns. He's going to enter the league with elite motor and elite strength, and this is before NBA strength training.
The concern is basically knees/joints. That part is fair. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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twisted Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:13 am Post subject: |
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If the Lakers are smart, they should capitalize on their Klutch connection. Make a promise to Garland and keep him out of workouts. He looks the type that will wow in one on one settings. And is it just me or is there something in the way he moves that reminds one of Kobe? _________________ “God knew they couldn’t be on this Earth without each other. He had to bring them home to have them together.” – Vanessa Bryant |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:13 am Post subject: |
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audioaxes wrote: | i forgot where I heard it from but on a podcast it was mentioned that advanced metrics put Zion at just BELOW Anthony Davis as the best recent prospect coming out of college.
then there's legit concerns about him being a bit undersized length-wise at his most natural position |
Not by PER (blech) or BPM (better). _________________ Under New Management |
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Joe Pesci Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Garland is way too good to be there at 11. I predict he goes top 5, especially if a team really needs a PG. _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter. |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:27 am Post subject: |
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We would have gotten a really nice player if we had tanked to 6th.
We still can, but it would have been so much easier. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:35 am Post subject: |
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audioaxes wrote: | i forgot where I heard it from but on a podcast it was mentioned that advanced metrics put Zion at just BELOW Anthony Davis as the best recent prospect coming out of college.
then there's legit concerns about him being a bit undersized length-wise at his most natural position |
I listened to that podcast....maybe KOC on the Ringer? I think it was based on someone's model that was also named, but I do not recall who that was either. |
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twisted Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Joe Pesci wrote: | Garland is way too good to be there at 11. I predict he goes top 5, especially if a team really needs a PG. |
He's 5-8 for me. Grizzlies or Wizards could possibly take him if they are moving on from their vet PGs. Only chance we have is to trade up or make a promise and hide him. _________________ “God knew they couldn’t be on this Earth without each other. He had to bring them home to have them together.” – Vanessa Bryant |
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:30 am Post subject: |
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We need shooters. Ty Jerome at 11. Then Kyle Guy. Not only are they familiar with eachother, but they are the shooter tandem we lack, and scrappy on defense. _________________ DEAR BASKETBALL |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Any scenario we could package pick and maybe one young guy for Beal? I still think Beal/zo would be devastating |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | I still think Beal/zo would be devastating |
isn't that like saying if you add my net worth and Warren Buffet's net worth, it would equal Billions of dollars? |
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lakerfanaticPT Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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twisted wrote: | If the Lakers are smart, they should capitalize on their Klutch connection. Make a promise to Garland and keep him out of workouts. He looks the type that will wow in one on one settings. And is it just me or is there something in the way he moves that reminds one of Kobe? |
Ding Ding Ding we have a winner. That would be very smart if doable???? |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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We are picking 11th not 2nd.
It would be extremely hard to get Garland to fall that far in a weak draft.
Not saying it wouldn't hurt to try that strategy... but that's why it was so important to lose out once we missed the playoffs. |
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Fan0Bynum17 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | Is it possible Garland can fall to us? |
Slim.
Legit debating to trade Kuzma and 11 to get him. |
How would you rate his defense? |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone watch Quinnandry Weatherspoon for Miss St? Not much youtube tape on him but he looks really good. One Stepien guy on Twitter likes him a decent amount. Seems like he’s be a great pick early 2nd. Wish we could buy one. 6’4 PG pretty long and athletic, shot well from 3. Looks like a basketball player |
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Pidge Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Practice wrote: | Pidge wrote: | Haven't seen anywhere near enough this year, but Coby White seems to be the strategic choice from the 2/3 tier guys. Any thoughts on him? Worth trading up for?
The pace seems a good fit for Lonzo/LBJ, decent handle and change of direction. But I'm only seeing highlights, where are the drawbacks? Defensive liability? Weak outside shot? Ball hog?
Sure it'll come down to BPA, but I think landing a guard should be a priority. |
His wingspan is really bad and he needs to improve his decision making because it leads to different mistakes in his game. |
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Practice Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | Is it possible Garland can fall to us? |
Slim.
Legit debating to trade Kuzma and 11 to get him. |
How would you rate his defense? |
I feel like the sample size is too small to accurately measure that type of thing with Garland. |
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twisted Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | We are picking 11th not 2nd.
It would be extremely hard to get Garland to fall that far in a weak draft.
Not saying it wouldn't hurt to try that strategy... but that's why it was so important to lose out once we missed the playoffs. |
Its not that farfetched. 1-4 is pretty locked for me with Zion, Ja, Culver & RJ. Garland should be somewhere in the 5-8 range. Dropping 3-6 slots is possible... make a promise, fake an injury, threaten surgery, skip workouts
It kinda worked with Randle, he fell a couple of slots down to us when he did that surgery headfake during his draft. _________________ “God knew they couldn’t be on this Earth without each other. He had to bring them home to have them together.” – Vanessa Bryant |
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twisted Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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lakerfanaticPT wrote: | twisted wrote: | If the Lakers are smart, they should capitalize on their Klutch connection. Make a promise to Garland and keep him out of workouts. He looks the type that will wow in one on one settings. And is it just me or is there something in the way he moves that reminds one of Kobe? |
Ding Ding Ding we have a winner. That would be very smart if doable???? |
Thanks bro. It certainly wont hurt to try _________________ “God knew they couldn’t be on this Earth without each other. He had to bring them home to have them together.” – Vanessa Bryant |
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Joe Pesci Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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I think many people are using Brandon Clarke's shot blocking ability against him.
If Clarke weren't such a prolific shot blocker, wouldn't he be compared to Aaron Gordon alot more?
Gordon is an inch taller and might have slightly more length, but they're both athletic, versatile defenders who have/had untapped offensive potential.
Because Clarke has rim protecting capabilities, he seems to be pigeonhold into the "undersized center/PF" role when , to me, he has every bit as much potential as Aaron Gordon had coming out of Arizona.
The biggest difference between the two is age entering the draft, which is just not that significant to me because they're both role players. Despite Gordon's inflated stats on Orlando, his potential is still limited to an elite role player on a championship team. Same with Clarke.
If Clarke averaged only one block a game, would he be compared to Gordon more? _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter. |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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I think they’re different in every way. And Clarke might be the better prospect. |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | Halflife wrote: | I still think Beal/zo would be devastating |
isn't that like saying if you add my net worth and Warren Buffet's net worth, it would equal Billions of dollars? |
I know few people who hate a player on their favorite team as much as you hate Zo. But I gotta admit, that made me laugh. |
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Joe Pesci Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Someone will say that Gordon had much more SF skills coming out of college, but I don't know if that's true other than a better handle.
The truth is, other than Clarke clearly showing his undeniable ability to be a clear NBA power forward, something Gordon never really did at ARIZONA (his rebounding and shot blocking numbers were low), their games are not that different. _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter. |
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